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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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way to go bleach. taking it right to the last minute!! see you in the morning.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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yaaaa! bleach, see you guys both today
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Good **** Bleach. The simplest answer usually is the right one. Show them flappy headed canadians how we do it.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Vaccum leaks become boost leaks when they get under pressure...

yes yes for sure they do ..good job bleach
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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does anyone know about swapping the turbo head and accessories unto the n/a block with the higher comp.ratio?how much will this affect drivability if i promise to stick with 93 octane?
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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it will raise comp ratio, and make no power, unless the head is shaved, not really a good idea. hey bleach! i got it, what if you leaned on your fuel rail that might fix it!!
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Good deal Bleach, got it all sorted out.

I knew it was a leak somewhere.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by terryxz
does anyone know about swapping the turbo head and accessories unto the n/a block with the higher comp.ratio?how much will this affect drivability if i promise to stick with 93 octane?
What block, head and piston combo are you starting with?

As Shady said, this is generally not a good idea unless you plan to do a bunch of other work.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bleach
Wooooooooooooooooosh.. put put put

I fixed it!
Woohoo! Way to go bleach! You'll have one of the fastest grocery gettin' 'sport' mini-vans on this site!

Have fun up in the great white north, eh!
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Nah, L-dub, it's "deh Greyt Wheyt Nurt, eh?"

Bleach, mind if I paint my hood with a sun? I admit, it'll look ricey on an Integra, but I want to kick *** like you too.
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Bleach, mind if I paint my hood with a sun? I admit, it'll look ricey on an Integra, but I want to kick *** like you too.
I haven't seen a "rising sun" hood in Utah yet... You'd be original here for a while!
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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hey guys, his car dont run well yet. were trying up here in the land of cold and toques to get this thing boosting. its not going well no boost = no fun
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Crucial . . . at least he has the lot of of you to help him.
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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well the gang is leaving in the morning with no improvment found in bleach's car, so its going to be up to bleach to post questions and get that beast running, and dude, you gotta keep that hood, or paint a straight one like that for perminate use
Old Jul 16, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Sonofabiotch! I still think it's an AFM prob.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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It's always the AFM on these damned cars
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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well, at least I got to see it boost good. that damn canadian air messed it up. and hey shady, we saw you as we were leaving, you see us? right before abbotsford.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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I made it home.
It might be a combo of ignition timing and boost leaks. It boosts ok if I lug it. Lower rpms it runs fine. As soon as it hits 3K or so, it starts to mess up.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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yup, i saw you guys, i was waving in the windscreen you know!! i didnt even get a wave back hehehe just kiddin, hey where was skully?
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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hey where was skully?
we took his money and beat him up. I got $300 for the Twin Turbo.. no title
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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we took his money and beat him up. I got $300 for the Twin Turbo.. no title
then we tricked ross out on the corner for some extra cash.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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nice, always knew he was good for something. lol
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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more progress but no fix:

I tightened down all that mess of large hoses on the top of the intake. That seems to be where my major leaks were from. I zip tied the FPR hose too.
I did the carb cleaner spray all over and the idle remained steady the whole time. Also, you know how the idle was poor and would go up and down and sometimes the car would just die; well now it idles very smooth. No more popping, no more dieing, very nice.

I checked the Factory Service Manual. I found two instances were they mention the timing for the turbo. In both places there is no mention at all about doing any changes to the car to set the timing. Both places mention on the model without turbocharger to unplug this and that.

I did try unplugging the TPS and it seems to make no change in the idle speed or timing. I cleaned the contacts on the plug and rotated the switch just to double-check its position.

So even though last time I had set my timing to 25, I checked it again and it was way advanced. Back up to 30! veeery strange...
so I retarded it again and brought it to 24 deg. Also, I noticed this time the mark was not jumping around at all. It did that a little last time. Shows me that my idle is much more smooth.

Anyway so I take the b*tch out for a drive and she's still not happy. Pops a little now and then (mainly when still warming up) but when that boost comes in the car just kinda.... bogs or whatever. Feels like suddenly the car weighs 5000 pounds. It actually accelerates a little slower as soon as the boost starts. It'll boost all the way past 7psi though. Just not fast like last week.

Also, I removed the BOV and plugged the hole. On my test run I still heard that fluttering noise so I now know that it is the factory POV letting air out and not the BOV. That means my wastegate is not keeping boost to 7spi. (my gauge only shows to 7).

I'm tempted to advance the timing all the way as allowed and see what that does. yer thoughts eh?

and another question: How does the factory ECU know what my boost is and how much fuel to put in? I have an idea that the AFM will be wide open at a couple psi and the TPS doesn't tell it when it is WOT, only when it is off idle. So what regulates the fuel? Is it just AFM wide open and after that it is all up to the FPR to up the fuel pressure based on the manifold boost?

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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you may have to tighten the afm adjustment screw to stop the flapper door from opening so quickly, this also leans it out tho. try taking the cover off and watching it, also take a paint marker and put a line on it, the try moving it tighter. then if it doesnt work, you can move it back
Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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It sounds like our Turbo problems are similar only mine does the opposite of yours when it hits boost and during cold really likes to bog below boost. For me when I set the timing, I put it at 20* as said without the TPS. The idle was higher, then when I connected the TPS it seemed like it retarded the idle. Also do you know anything about ohming the TPS?



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