How to make the N/A Faster?? swap mass merge thread
Originally Posted by thehollowkrew
ummm....
i hate to say....
but...
how much did you guys pay for your tt?
i mean i want an estimate on how much i should pay so i dont get ripped off.
i want the mileage to be around 20,000 or lower.
thanks,
i hate to say....
but...
how much did you guys pay for your tt?
i mean i want an estimate on how much i should pay so i dont get ripped off.
i want the mileage to be around 20,000 or lower.
thanks,
My buddy picked up a 1990 Twin Turbo with 30K on it for $15,000.00 three years ago. Doesn't sound too impressive til you realize that it was 13 years old when he bought it. The problem was that is it had such low miles due to it spending a great deal of time in need of repair and not becuase it was babied. The car was bone stock with the exception of a Veilside body kit.
I paid 27k for mine, a 1995 with 20k miles on it 4 years ago owned by a 55 year old lady. Not a scratch on it.
Originally Posted by thehollowkrew
ummm....
i hate to say....
but...
how much did you guys pay for your tt?
i mean i want an estimate on how much i should pay so i dont get ripped off.
i want the mileage to be around 20,000 or lower.
thanks,
i hate to say....
but...
how much did you guys pay for your tt?
i mean i want an estimate on how much i should pay so i dont get ripped off.
i want the mileage to be around 20,000 or lower.
thanks,
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another engine swap question sry
well i dont even own or drive a z32 but i have been very interested in buying a 2+2. I hear alot of talk about this vg30dett swap, i know that this motor will fit into the 2+2 but whats the level of dificulty and whats a rough estimate of how much this would all cost. Is there any type of custom work thats needs to be done for this kind of swap.
Originally Posted by 902+2
on making the n/a faster i didnt see the safe amount of nitrous that can be ran on the motor ive seen 50 shot but can there be a 100 shot with out any large mods..like internals...? just wondering thanks guys
Originally Posted by entropy31
the only safe shot of nitrous is a 0 shot.
Because the N/A VG30DE stock output is 222HP, whereas the N/A VQ35De stock output is 287+HP. Better base line, and no extra heat or extra parts to fail like a TT. My '02 Maxima pulls a helluva lot harder than the '91 Z32 N/A I just drove, and it weighs a solid 1000lbs more than the Z.
Prolly a near impossibility ... just a thought.
Prolly a near impossibility ... just a thought.
I would think maby only custom motor mounts and tranny mounts. modify the harness. and let rip. I'm sure you woudl have to trim here and there ofcourse. but should not be a big deal. I mean I knwo someone that put it in an S14. and still has room for a Big *** radiator and FMIC if he wanted. I'll try and get pics.
you can contact him for detail his name is Gilbert.. owner of Amerikajin 951-906-3608
you can contact him for detail his name is Gilbert.. owner of Amerikajin 951-906-3608
if you wnat a nissan motor N/A with lots of hp stuff a nissan titan motor into the bitch, i say a 350Z wiht a nissan titan notor in it and if you can fit the VQ35 you must beable to stuff a titan motor in it if that 350z did. then you get lots o torque. plus if your swapping in its outta the car you cna change **** on it get more power and have abrand new reliable engine to last a while, a vg30dett that is.
Last edited by Riz Z Speed; Jul 22, 2006 at 10:06 AM.
I think it'd be a good idea. Someone will eventually do it and sell a kit to make it plug-n-play. Some of the benefits are all aluminum, ie: less weight. No t-belt to change every 60k. Newer stock vq's match a stock vg-tt in h.p. 6-speed tranny. equal or better tuner market.
I saw a g35-tt dyno 609 h.p. at ~18 psi. the G had more h.p. but the dyno couldn't handle it.
If people can stuff an rb26 in a z32, a vq will definitely fit.
I saw a g35-tt dyno 609 h.p. at ~18 psi. the G had more h.p. but the dyno couldn't handle it.
If people can stuff an rb26 in a z32, a vq will definitely fit.
Last edited by CanyonCarver; Jul 21, 2006 at 04:13 PM.
I think the weight of a Titan engine would be prohibitive. Plus you'd get killed on the MPG since it's a V8. Would be a unique sound, though.
Now to come up with the project car & the $$$$ for a used VQ35DE. Oh wait, I have a mortgage. Nevermind. Feel free to Paypal donations.
Now to come up with the project car & the $$$$ for a used VQ35DE. Oh wait, I have a mortgage. Nevermind. Feel free to Paypal donations.
Originally Posted by silvrhand
Why would you want to do something like that just to be different?
It would be better to swap out the VG30DETT into it if you have a NA since you are looking to swap into a larger HP engine.
It would be better to swap out the VG30DETT into it if you have a NA since you are looking to swap into a larger HP engine.
I second that....
Originally Posted by Nismortare
Because the N/A VG30DE stock output is 222HP, whereas the N/A VQ35De stock output is 287+HP.
Originally Posted by Nismortare
and no extra heat or extra parts to fail like a TT.
^^^I second that^^^
The VQ35DE is an inferior platform for making power, and that's all there is to it. If you're not happy with 222bhp, you'll quickly tire of 300bhp (like all TT owners), and want to upgrade. Without doing forced induction, you're very limited with power output. Once you do forced induction, you will blow the engine if you don't do internals (the record for a VQ35DE without internal modifications is only in the 450-500 rwhp zone, as compared to the VG30DETT which has done over 700rwhp on stock internals; and when I was at Ultimate Z, we had a GReddy TT 350Z blow the engine at only 13psi). Bang for the buck goes to the VG30DETT... it will make sh*tloads more power with a lot less cash.
The VQ35DE is an inferior platform for making power, and that's all there is to it. If you're not happy with 222bhp, you'll quickly tire of 300bhp (like all TT owners), and want to upgrade. Without doing forced induction, you're very limited with power output. Once you do forced induction, you will blow the engine if you don't do internals (the record for a VQ35DE without internal modifications is only in the 450-500 rwhp zone, as compared to the VG30DETT which has done over 700rwhp on stock internals; and when I was at Ultimate Z, we had a GReddy TT 350Z blow the engine at only 13psi). Bang for the buck goes to the VG30DETT... it will make sh*tloads more power with a lot less cash.
Last edited by ZLover4Life; Jul 21, 2006 at 08:40 PM.
Originally Posted by ZLover4Life
^^^I second that^^^
The VQ35DE is an inferior platform for making power, and that's all there is to it. If you're not happy with 222bhp, you'll quickly tire of 300bhp (like all TT owners), and want to upgrade. Without doing forced induction, you're very limited with power output. Once you do forced induction, you will blow the engine if you don't do internals (the record for a VQ35DE without internal modifications is only in the 450-500 rwhp zone, as compared to the VG30DETT which has done over 700rwhp on stock internals; and when I was at Ultimate Z, we had a GReddy TT 350Z blow the engine at only 13psi). Bang for the buck goes to the VG30DETT... it will make sh*tloads more power with a lot less cash.
The VQ35DE is an inferior platform for making power, and that's all there is to it. If you're not happy with 222bhp, you'll quickly tire of 300bhp (like all TT owners), and want to upgrade. Without doing forced induction, you're very limited with power output. Once you do forced induction, you will blow the engine if you don't do internals (the record for a VQ35DE without internal modifications is only in the 450-500 rwhp zone, as compared to the VG30DETT which has done over 700rwhp on stock internals; and when I was at Ultimate Z, we had a GReddy TT 350Z blow the engine at only 13psi). Bang for the buck goes to the VG30DETT... it will make sh*tloads more power with a lot less cash.
VG30DETT all the way. for what the VQ swap will cost, you could put in a VG30DETT and build the living **** out of it. and the VG is FAR more reliable when boosted than the VQ. TT VQs blow on a regular basis, TT VGs dont. if you are looking to put some ***** in a z32, go with the VG. well, there are the guys who put a TT VQ45 in a z32, but that thing couldnt even get traction....
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I've been tweaking the VQ in my '02 Maxima for the past 5 years as my income allows, and have zero experience with the VG30. That's my primary reason for posing the question.
For the record, I'm 30 and despise rice runners.
For the record, I'm 30 and despise rice runners.
Yah,
There is no secret in making power for the VG30DETT, you won't be treading new ground or anything but the formula is pretty simple.
- fix brakes (first before more power, the car needs better brakes)
- intake
- exhaust
- downpipes/testpipes
- clutch (you'll need it quickly)
- radiator (if you are in hot climate)
- ECU + Boost Controller (no jets.. trust me)
- Emanage/AFC of some sort
- Injectors
- Exhaust Manifolds
- JWT 530BB Turbo's
- Find a way to keep it on the ground.
There is no secret in making power for the VG30DETT, you won't be treading new ground or anything but the formula is pretty simple.
- fix brakes (first before more power, the car needs better brakes)
- intake
- exhaust
- downpipes/testpipes
- clutch (you'll need it quickly)
- radiator (if you are in hot climate)
- ECU + Boost Controller (no jets.. trust me)
- Emanage/AFC of some sort
- Injectors
- Exhaust Manifolds
- JWT 530BB Turbo's
- Find a way to keep it on the ground.
Originally Posted by Nismortare
Thanks for the feedback, guys. I've been tweaking the VQ in my '02 Maxima for the past 5 years as my income allows, and have zero experience with the VG30. That's my primary reason for posing the question.
For the record, I'm 30 and despise rice runners.
For the record, I'm 30 and despise rice runners.


