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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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that figure really doesn't matter. either he made a mistake, that he will either correct or have to give the people the better side of, or he has better sources then we do. considering that he is competing for the presidency, i'd say he has some better sources then we can get a hold of. his figure may be including more then just the people. he is talking about taxes, so businesses and all types of organizations pay taxes too. those might be thrown into his figure.

you still haven't said anything bad about obama. you've just said that you think he is a marxist, which is a pretty extreme accusation. yeah, maybe he wants a little more power in the government, but as said, the government can't really just get so powerful that power is taken from the people, because of checks and balances. i don't side with a party, the way i look at it is, if obama is in the white house, there are still plenty of republicans to go through before he can make these things happen. we won't have to worry about living in a marxist country.

please don't read this with an aggressive tone. i'm continuing this friendly conversation
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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First of all, the figure does matter. It matters because it gives us insight to oboma. Is he unable to get the information correct or is he deciving us. Either way it is not good.

Second, I do not intend to say bad things about people. My intention is to express my opinion and maybe even educate.

Third, if obama is in, the republicans have no foot hold to stop Obama's and the demacrates marxist ways. The house of rep.s, the senate and the white house will all be controlled by the majority, which is, you guessed it, democrates. There will be no checks and balances because the majority will be democratic. Also remember the last time the house of rep.s, sentate and white house were all democratic. I lived through that it was awful. Jimmy Carter was president - prime rate 20%+ - unemployement was 10%+. I don't think you want to live through it. Phd's got jobs driving taxi cabs because they couldn't find work anywhere else.

Forth, check out history books and even look at the world around you today. There are multitudes of examples of government taking power from the people. It has happened in the good old USA - remember the civial war? remember the revelutionary war? remember when people in the USA could say what is on their mind without being called names, smoke pot and smoke cigs in a bar? This government continues to take away from us, the people. The more they take the more power they have. Remember the guy that said republicans rely on themselves and Dems want the people to rely on the government?

I'm just getting started. but my fingers hurt from all this typing.

Just vote for ZBRICK. I will put a Z car in every garage. Oh, and I won't raise taxes.



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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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i might vote for you. if we had a worth while system, you would be able to run. i hate the system that only lets voters choose from 2 candidates. and really only two parties. such a bad system.

making laws isn't taking power from the people. i like a government that makes laws to protect rights, like saying that people can't smoke in restaurants or kill and steal and stuff. taking power and rights away would be the government deciding what job i would have. not telling me that i can't smoke pot.
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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i never planned on leaving this as anything but friends. im not letting politcal opinions effect my thoughts on people. a little dissappoinment that your really into trying to slander the other opponent as your voice for your choice instead of using the positive of the person you want to vote for. also i think McCain is the person that will bring the LEAST if any change from bush and thats honestly the first reason i dont like him, second is Palin, i dont see how anyone other then fem ****'s could like her for the the shear fact she is a woman but w/e. also the figure we keep pulling up is household incomes, so alot of that is combined income, i dont know if he plans on using individual incomes or the household for his basis but that will dramatically skew that percentage curve. also theres a few graphs in my link both that change or vary from the previous figure so its realisticall using a house hold income figure around 180-190k and up is the top 5%
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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im kinda lol'ing that you tried to support palin, that will make any one look bad in my mind justifying anything she has said haha


everyone watch this

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461

its the bestest!

know how theres a forced retirement age for many professions and then just the usual retirement age usually lead by force, that should apply to presidents, if your to old to be trusted with a job your to old to be trusted with a country lol

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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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ok ok ok ya both make sense and have branes---now---pick up your teabags and go to the nearest harbor of choice and have a bloody tea party, already---this country is not going to continue in our normal overdone and greedy state very much longer. if the bailout from hell happens then other countries own us and can call in their debt at any time and will be able to take this place apart---so---whatever you all do in the voting booth, remember there is a slouch here among yaz who needs her disability payments not to be dispo'd too soon -----let the idjits who have fouled their nests lose the damn nests and let the rest of us survive----a depression is a lot better than losing our nation----our government and whatever we will be losing after the socialization of our banking system---the fascism of this nation---has already begun......oh, yes, and when i DID work, i made about 95k/yr---what percentage , then, was i in?????oh, imo--palin's big contribution is the pipeline money--her only good contribution, and she is in the race for the sex appeal......is all....oh, yes, and the hook the redneck anti abortionist sheet wearer mindset, i feel, and the dems are trying to add branes to a braneless function---we the fooled people do not ever elect the pres or any other item on the list---the electoral college from hell is the paid bunch of lobby supporting ******** that elect the pres---is a far tooo important position to have the ignorant people to be allowed to have any say in the issue----this was never saet up to be a democracy---was always a republic with sooo many checks and balances set into the mix to prevent the individual citizen from having tooo much say in the process----was set up for the landholder to have the say. over time that has been subtly changed to be the special interest group has the say, as that group is the influencing factor in the politicians decisions. there is not one political decision made in this country that does not have the seal of approval of the special interest group. people have no say in our government any longer---never did--only the land holder was allowed to vote, to hold office, to have any credibility--until the special interests, or lobbies, came into view.......oh--and i would only vote for anyone who actually delivered the 1972 240 to my door.....oh--and i am no longer a taxpayer, as a disabled person i am exempt from that----so, deliver me a 240 in great shape, to my door, and i will vote for you........

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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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wow... z-hag said something political i agree with, must be to tire to care anymore. i remember when obama was a terrorist now that the only other choice is McCain and palin seem she was suceeded because no choice is good anymore. YAY!!!!!! lol and also yeah our vote "counts" but them damn politicians and govt get the last say how do you think bush won the first time? haha and im pretty sure theres more people behind obama that McCain but w/e
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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is good to see there are kids in this upcoming bunch of 18-20 yr olds who actually use their branes---so many for so long have been dummified---how did you manage to avoid the programming tool???? cycloptic piece of garbage.......and the roe vs wade crap started originally as a bill to make it legal for a female to get a doctors appointment and physical exam WITHOUT THE SIGNATURE of the closest male member of her family....father, husband, brother, etc----i mean,how rude!!!!?? ya think----and politicians have so created something out of nothing at all----female rights to physical exam and or other treatments is not a political issue much less a point of debate. if it is, so also should be ther condition of each mans prostate and his sperm count, thankyou, be matter of public record, as well as his sexual history and history of vd. think abouut it, guyz---how public is your own health?? how many of you would like to have to seek out the signature of someone else in your family before seeing a physician for a physical exam, as it was in 1950 for women and girls????????????????????
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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btw----i am not a member of the voting pubic nor will i stick around to see the results for too much time, a=nyway--i hope to have flown the koop to a warmer climate in short order----read this ands weeeeeep, guyzzzzz.....



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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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lol, oh and in all honesty, i think everyones record of VD should be available, then the spread would probably stop lol!
Old Sep 28, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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Zhag - the awesome one
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 07:33 AM
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i only have 577 posts in this thread.... i thought it would be alot more....
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
i only have 577 posts in this thread.... i thought it would be alot more....
Did you go through every page and count them?
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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dumb ***.... when you are looking at all the threads that have new posts in them you know how theres that envelope ALL the way to the left side thats red or yellow and has the arrow pointing at it if you posted in that thread? yeah hover your mouse over that envelope guess what pops up!!!!

"you have 579 posts in this thread"


thats right BIOTCH!!!!
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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woohoo 302 posts to go!!!

AND snw you just make yourself too good of a target..

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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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wow this place is quiet tonight. there hasn't been a post in about 2 hours
Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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i re-formatted my whole lappy again, it wouldnt launch up anymore? it was the damndest thing cause i had just eliminated a butt load of trojans and crap i was tricked into lol then was all clean for a few days then with no warning POW! but yeah now i gotta try to recover ALL my music and all my programs....
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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^^^ Stop downloading so much pr0n and games from torrent sites / Limewire... and getch0self a good anti-virus tool. Ya tool.
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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i had a great anti virus setup and only used torrents. i just ignored the warnings lol... i was tricked
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
i had a great anti virus setup and only used torrents. i just ignored the warnings lol... i was tricked
I didnt know you could be tricked into being stupid. lol just kidding.
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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no when trying to view a video i was prompted to update my activeX. seemed legit, then i got a warning that it was from an unregistered source, figured BAH thats melarky. mistake! also at the time apparently my Mcafee wasnt fully registered so it didnt help me out, since then i run McAfee and spybot search and destroy.
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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I'm trying to search and destroy
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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i've used that before. i think avg is really my favorite virus protection ever. i have mccaffe now cause the school gave it to me. it's ok i guess. but it doesn't tell me what's going on
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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doesnt tell you whats going on? lol whats that even mean? i like it offers probably the best protection without sllowing everything down and for everything else it doesnt protect as well i got spybot. so suck it bitch!
Old Sep 30, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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He wants to know when the virus is about to attack



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