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Vandil,
This debate comes and goes, unfortunately the VG30DE isn't an attractive marker for modification since most people really don't get much power out of it due to cost vs. reward. To get that kind of HP you are going to have to pull it and have it sent to an engine builder, I don't think 400hp is capable with a 6k budget, sure you could dump a 150 shot kit on and get close but would it be a long term reliable solution, no. To be honest it's very tough to get 125hp per liter and still be reliable to drive every day, the Honda 2k gets about 100hp per liter on a NA engine. You have your work cut out for you.
Estimates:
Headers - $1500-2000
Cams - $400 - $500
Pistons - ???
Rebuild - ???
Nitrous - ???
Intake - $100
Exhaust - $800
High Flow Cats - $400
Underdrive Pulley - $200
Injectors - $1000
The Z is very pricey to mod due to limited production #'s and high entry cost, so the markup on parts is a lot as well due to lack of demand.
Good luck with your efforts, let us know how it goes.
This debate comes and goes, unfortunately the VG30DE isn't an attractive marker for modification since most people really don't get much power out of it due to cost vs. reward. To get that kind of HP you are going to have to pull it and have it sent to an engine builder, I don't think 400hp is capable with a 6k budget, sure you could dump a 150 shot kit on and get close but would it be a long term reliable solution, no. To be honest it's very tough to get 125hp per liter and still be reliable to drive every day, the Honda 2k gets about 100hp per liter on a NA engine. You have your work cut out for you.
Estimates:
Headers - $1500-2000
Cams - $400 - $500
Pistons - ???
Rebuild - ???
Nitrous - ???
Intake - $100
Exhaust - $800
High Flow Cats - $400
Underdrive Pulley - $200
Injectors - $1000
The Z is very pricey to mod due to limited production #'s and high entry cost, so the markup on parts is a lot as well due to lack of demand.
Good luck with your efforts, let us know how it goes.
Originally Posted by VandiL
That is not the response I honestly thought I would get.
I get that I should have bought a TT. I don’t have a TT, I have 2+2.
That having been said....
Money, although important is not a significant barrier given the Engineer part of the equation is met.
I think it would be fun to mod the normally aspirated V6 to make it compete with a TT. Since 300s did not come with the all aluminum V8 I don't have much choice but to mod the V6 it came with.
Obviously, no one really knows the answer to my question and I suppose I should have been more specific in asking it.
Based on material I have seen on the web I think it is possible given a 6,000 dollar budget to purchase a used motor (1400) and spend around 4 or 5 thousand dollars (all in good fun BTW) and get approximately 350 - 400 horsepower out of a motor.
Those who care to confirm my assumptions please feel free to entertain me; those who wish to chastise me for not buying the Vett or the TT....don't bother.
Regards,
I get that I should have bought a TT. I don’t have a TT, I have 2+2.
That having been said....
Money, although important is not a significant barrier given the Engineer part of the equation is met.
I think it would be fun to mod the normally aspirated V6 to make it compete with a TT. Since 300s did not come with the all aluminum V8 I don't have much choice but to mod the V6 it came with.
Obviously, no one really knows the answer to my question and I suppose I should have been more specific in asking it.
Based on material I have seen on the web I think it is possible given a 6,000 dollar budget to purchase a used motor (1400) and spend around 4 or 5 thousand dollars (all in good fun BTW) and get approximately 350 - 400 horsepower out of a motor.
Those who care to confirm my assumptions please feel free to entertain me; those who wish to chastise me for not buying the Vett or the TT....don't bother.
Regards,
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Originally Posted by VandiL
Thanks all!
Ultimately what I was trying to achieve was a spirited discussion regarding the potential of the NA Z. I would like to apologize again for my ranting as I was initially put off by the "Why didn’t you buy a TT" that often accompanies a conversation about what kind of car I decided to purchase.
To be clear I would have preferred a TT but in my case this car came along and I jumped at the opportunity. Now that I have made my bed I have to sleep in it. I realize I could have waited but other than 140,000 miles the car is especially clean having been driven by some old man who enjoyed playing golf. Now that I have it, I love it but want it to be more competitive while driving around. If I can get a modest 330 or so horsepower out of it I will be beside myself with glee.
I have a lot to learn so I look forward to chatting more with all of you.
Thanks again!
Ultimately what I was trying to achieve was a spirited discussion regarding the potential of the NA Z. I would like to apologize again for my ranting as I was initially put off by the "Why didn’t you buy a TT" that often accompanies a conversation about what kind of car I decided to purchase.
To be clear I would have preferred a TT but in my case this car came along and I jumped at the opportunity. Now that I have made my bed I have to sleep in it. I realize I could have waited but other than 140,000 miles the car is especially clean having been driven by some old man who enjoyed playing golf. Now that I have it, I love it but want it to be more competitive while driving around. If I can get a modest 330 or so horsepower out of it I will be beside myself with glee.
I have a lot to learn so I look forward to chatting more with all of you.
Thanks again!
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 106
From: Bronx, NY
Originally Posted by Comorat2x2
...What you have right now is a great car thats a blast to drive, handles better than most anything new on the road now and will leave those poseur "omg dood U shuld hav gotz teh TT 4 the leet HP!!" retards sucking your dust and tire smoke.
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