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Old 02-14-2006, 02:01 PM
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I am so close to having my Z running. It was nice just to hear him crank healthy, on all six. I just right now, am not getting fuel, according to my fuel pressure gauge. I had no problem before, so I am sure it is a minor setback. Also I noticed a small leak towards the back of the car. I am betting a fuel line. So I will check it out tomorrow. Nonetheless, hopefully tomorrow, I will at least have him running. Will keep you updated as always.
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Old 02-17-2006, 02:19 AM
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Ha Ha you guys are too much. LOL Anyway yes I do have an update for all you Z people. I sort of got him running Wednesday. And then he wouldn't start back up. So after all that, the battery died on me.

So I continued the next day, and took the battery out of my Celica. Hooked it up, and cranked him, and walla, instant running without touching the throttle! But then at the same time, another problem. I noticed fuel leaks in my rail. Okay no big deal. Turned the key off, and tightened what was leaking. Okay take 2, and try again. Again leaks but this time, another spot. So after 2 or 3 times, and finding different leaks. I decided to take the fuel rail off, and teflon, and tighten it better.

Now after all that, I ran out of time. And had to get ready for work. Damn, anyway I should be roadworthy today. I hope, all of you cross your fingers for me. And I will get back to you ASAP. So going to bed soon, and finsih getting the rail back on, checking everything again. And fire him up, and see where I am at. And then dial him in, where I need to. Get everything good to go, and take him for a run. So I will keep you informed as always.

Also I have had some trouble at my job. With my #sshole supervisor, he is really p#ssing me off. And it is stressing me out, and such. So I am no longer a coordinator in the G-3 line. I am going back to the bottom, where I would rather be. No stress, come in do my work, clean up, go home. Everybody's happy, anyway I am getting there early, and complain to HR. (human resources) And speak my mind, I have put up with his sh#t, for almost 4 years, and I am sick and friggin' tired of it! I am tired of the favoritism, the covering up bullsh#t, and all the other crap, that goes along with it. And I never will or ever have beem a #sskisser. My nose is the color it should be, nice and light.

All aside, sorry for the rambling and b#tching. But if makes me feel good to get it off my chest. Wish me luck, and hopefully, I say the right words, and keep it at a professional level.
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Sow its running now right??
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:53 AM
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Not yet, I am going out in a few to put the rail back on. And then I am pretty sure he will run. Will let you know.
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Old 02-17-2006, 01:06 PM
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Well that tears it, I am sick of this damn thing not starting. I put the cover back on, and I think I am taking the insurance off of it. If I mess with it anymore, and it does the same sh#t. I will do something I will regret.

Like I have said before, I don't think I am worthy enough to drive a Z again. So if somebody wants to come over and help me get this running. Be my guest, as for me, I am through.
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Well that tears it, I am sick of this damn thing not starting. I put the cover back on, and I think I am taking the insurance off of it. If I mess with it anymore, and it does the same sh#t. I will do something I will regret.

Like I have said before, I don't think I am worthy enough to drive a Z again. So if somebody wants to come over and help me get this running. Be my guest, as for me, I am through.
Back the train up! Can't give up yet. If it won't start, it's 1 or 2 things: NO SPARK, OR NO FUEL. Start w/ the basics.
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Old 02-17-2006, 02:02 PM
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Come on brotha, you gotta have faith. If at first you dont succeed then try again. And again, and again, and again, and ... Well you get the point. Working on a car can be very frustrating, but just relax and think everything through. You've come this far, nows not the time to give in
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Hey! Don't **** me off and make me drive all the way to AZ just to put the smack down on you!

Seriously though, relax and take some nice deep breaths. I know how frustrating this stuff can be. I just spent three weeks dicking with the Z32 to get it started only to find out it was something really small and really easy to fix. You just swapped an entire motor for cryin' out loud... There are bound to be some hicups. Lord knows that if I tried to do a motr swap on my own that it would have taken me twice as long and I would have almost certainly FUBARed something in the process. My hat is off to you for digging in and going for it like you did with limited experience. You will get past this. I'm guessing your JSK rail might be the problem. I would try getting it to start and run correctly with the stock rail first before swapping to the JSK. I know... that's a pain, but it's the logical approach. Whatever it winds up being, I promise you that it will be silly and you will eventually get a giggle or two out of it. Persistance and patience will pay off. Hang in there WildmaN. You are a big inspiration to a lot of us... You'll get through it and be better off and more knowledgable because of it.

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Like everyone all ready said, JUST RELAX, take the night off. And start again when you are more patient and clear headed. You will figure it out. It will be all right
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One thing I noticed when I was over helping.. you have no music.. I didnt hear any anyway.. you should put on some tunes.. it works for me..
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One thing I noticed when I was over helping.. you have no music.. I didnt hear any anyway.. you should put on some tunes.. it works for me..
Metallica is my garage music! Goes quite well with throwing wrenches at the wall!
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Old 02-18-2006, 03:23 AM
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Allright guys, I will hang out for a little longer. I always say things, when I am venting, and upset. That is how I am, and it gets me away from the problem.

Anyway I have given this a lot of thought last night at work. And I am pointing the finger at my injectors. I think a couple of them are bad, that they are spraying too much fuel. Because here is the weird part about it. And also why I concluded it's the injectors. Thursday, I go out, and try starting him again. This time I grab the battery out of my Celica. Okay hook it up, and turn him over. Wallah, like I said in a previous post. He started right away, and had the fuel leaking issues, which I also said in a previous post.

So I am like okay no big deal. I will take the rail off, and fix the leaks. And then I also noticed one injector was too short after I tefloned the fittings. So I replace it with another one lying around. And then I had another injector leaking on me. So I replaced that one with another one lying around. Allright, that's done, proceed the next day. Friday, Carl comes over, and I get up, with only 5 hours sleep. But I didn't care, I thought for sure, this would be the day. Well after struggling forever, and barely getting him to run. We then proceed to my ranting and venting, and throwing in the towel.

Okay after that, I go to work all bummed out depressed, and upset. After a while into my shift. I start thinking again. (I swear it is the whole Z addiction) Anyway I wrote down, what I think could be causing the problem. And then I remembered a couple of injectors, that had the plastic tips broken off. And I got to thinking, that they were dumping too much fuel, and fouling my plugs, and getting them wet. So I called Autozone, they had 1 injector in stock. And I wanted to buy 6 new ones, or remanufactored ones. So now, I am going to bed here shortly. I already pulled the plugs out. And I am letting them, and my cylinders dry, so when I get up. I can tackle it with a fresh start. And also a charged battery, thanks to my battery charger I purchased this morning.

Okay, so that is the scoop, and I appreciate all your insight, and kind words. And I will do my part to keep inspiring all of you. Like you all say, and that really sets me in a better light. And thanks for that. As for you Rod, thank you for threatening to smack me down. LOL. And also for your hats off to me, for tackling this motor swap. I will succeed, I just have to be patient. And thanks to you guys, I am once again, motivated to get this thing going.
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Injectors are one of those things you just don't skimp on or do half-***. They can make or break your whole car. I know you aren't made of money, but if there's any doubt about the condition of the injectors then you need to replace them all. 1 or 2 slghty out of whack injectors can lead to all sorts of runability issues. I also think you really need to put the stock rail back in until you get all the gremlins worked out. Once you have it all dialed in with the stock stuff, then you proceed to install the upgrades... one at a time so if there's a problem, you know what it's related to.

I'm glad you chilled out though. Anytime you need me to threaten you with a friendly smack down just let me know .

I know how frustrated you must be. When I get that way I only compound the problem because I lose focus. I wind up getting mad and phu&*ing something up worse than it already was.

I remember having to to the water pump and timing belt job twice in one day on a 1.9 litre ford escort (which is a really big PITA job) because I let myself get pissed off during the first try and I screwed it up... or so I thought. After I pulled it all apart again and realized it was installed correctly, I noticed that I had never pluged the crank sensor back in... Stupid mistake. I also knocked myself unconscious while working on it because I hit my head on the lift... You wanna talk about a bad day and a whole lot of colorfull language? You should have been there for that one > Just take your time and sort it out the best you can.

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what would putting the old rail back in do ......Nothing .....IT sounds like you have some wet *** plugs ......turn your dissy to top dead by useing the cam ...
i know its a pain but do it anyway ....now use air and clean your plugs ...also with the dissy cap off take the air and blow out your dissy do the same to the pistons ...let it ALL dry ...if your doing it under that car port make SURE everything is dryed out really well...regap your plugs and reinstall....check and recheck everything ....now befor you go slaping that new rail on make sure you thread seal ALL off the fittings ...
**** tape i didn't use it at ALL ...i used thread sealer ..
it cost 5 bucks so go get some....make sure you seal them really well ..i let mine dry for days befor i installed it ..i didn't get any leaks ... now with everything back together .....recheck everything again makING sure its all tight and in place ....then firer it over ...if you did what i said "it should work fine ".....i wouldN'T worry to much about the injectors ...if it fired right up befor then it should do the same NOW as long as you put it to top dead and making sure your plugs are dry ....
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Because he has never had the JSK rail in and working before... and it's not the complete kit. He had to piece together what he thought would make it work. That's why. If he had already installed it and had it working in the old motor I wouldn't suggest it. It's the logical thing to do in order to rule it out as a source of the problem...

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Old 02-18-2006, 12:49 PM
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Hey when I said I tefloned the fittings. I used the white RTV teflon tube, like Nismopick suggested. There are no leaks now, like I said I really think it all happened after I replaced a couple of leaky injectors. Therefore trading them for a worse set, that has the plastic tips broke off. And I am concluding they are putting in too much fuel, and flooding my engine, and fouling my plugs.

And like I said he was runnning nice and strong, then I discovered the leaks. So I know the JSK rail works right. And Rod, if the rail doesn't work out. I will go ahead, and put the stock one back on, and see what happens. I am trying right now, to call Checker, but they have a busy signal. And see if they have a whole set of injectors.
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Old 02-18-2006, 03:23 PM
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Okay over $400 later, I have new Beck Arnley injectors. I got them from BAP import parts here in Mesa. 1 year warranty, free replacement. But they should be fine. Now that I wiped out half of my tax return. My Z better appreciate this, LOL. Anyway I just got back from downtown. And now I am getting my rags on, and tackling my Z again. Will let you know what happened. And thanks everybody for the tips, and such.
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Old 02-18-2006, 05:38 PM
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Well I got them installed for the most part. But I had to stop because I need to go to work.(Dominos job) So after I get done there, I will come home, and tackle it again.
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Old 02-19-2006, 12:48 PM
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Okay I am at a loss, I had him running. Like before he started right up, and I even go tto rev him to 5 and 6 grand. But now he won't turn over again. Just cranks, and cranks, but no kick. Also he was putting out greyish white smoke.

Please somebody help me, my Celica is making weird noises. I think the wheel bearings are going out. I need this Z running, I have been driving my Celica everday to work, and everywhere else.
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First, go back to basics... Make sure you have spark and fuel. And don't get angry! It's just a car and it's not smarter than you are . Sort through the basic stuff again first.

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Old 02-19-2006, 01:15 PM
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I have done what I can, I really need somebody else here. This is not my department. I have never had so much trouble with a Z before. This is really irritating.
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Old 02-19-2006, 01:19 PM
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The Grayish White Is Hopefully Residue From Sitting. If Not We All Hope Its Not The Head Gasket. Im Really Hoping You Didnt Rev It Cold To 5 Or 6 Grand. Test The Compression On All The Cylinders Before Panicing On This One. Did That Motor Run When It Was In The Old Car?
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