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08-13-2009, 01:57 PM
#176
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My car had a 6-1 Header on it when I bought it.
Alright. Do you know WHY a 6-1 Header has really long equal length tubes?
Better flow, less turns, favorable back pressure. Good for N/A applications.
Do you know why a turbo exhaust manifold only has one outlet right out of the head? Turbos use the heat from exhaust gases [which are hottest right after exiting the head] as well as the pressure of the gases leaving the head to spin the turbine in the hot side of the turbo. The 'opening' is a 'T3' port that will accept most turbos with a T3 flange.
AFTER the exhaust gases exit the hot side of the turbo, the less back pressure the better. If there is a lot of back pressure it can slow the turbine wheel down.
You are talking about two completely different things here and you're trying to make an argument over something that you MISREAD.
Alright. Do you know WHY a 6-1 Header has really long equal length tubes?
Better flow, less turns, favorable back pressure. Good for N/A applications.
Do you know why a turbo exhaust manifold only has one outlet right out of the head? Turbos use the heat from exhaust gases [which are hottest right after exiting the head] as well as the pressure of the gases leaving the head to spin the turbine in the hot side of the turbo. The 'opening' is a 'T3' port that will accept most turbos with a T3 flange.
AFTER the exhaust gases exit the hot side of the turbo, the less back pressure the better. If there is a lot of back pressure it can slow the turbine wheel down.
You are talking about two completely different things here and you're trying to make an argument over something that you MISREAD.
Anyways. I think I've gathered all the useful information I have the patience to gather from reading between posts to make my decisions.
KA TB + ported intake + larger AFM for now. This should give me some experience with modifying/tuning parts, if only that. Those parts can be found cheap at a yard, so no real loss of funds.
08-13-2009, 09:08 PM
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just so you know, most of the screws holding all the electronic crap in place are usually VERY tight, and you could end up rounding out the screws and spend alot of time trying to undo them and possibly messing up the circuit board or the connector 
and sorry for the misleading comment on the turbo manifold, I cleared it up in a later post, but it got bumped back by hoov and bojo who seem to try and trash every thread they enter <_<
and sorry for the misleading comment on the turbo manifold, I cleared it up in a later post, but it got bumped back by hoov and bojo who seem to try and trash every thread they enter <_<
08-13-2009, 09:38 PM
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He made a whole 14 posts before being banned from HybridZ
08-13-2009, 09:41 PM
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just so you know, most of the screws holding all the electronic crap in place are usually VERY tight, and you could end up rounding out the screws and spend alot of time trying to undo them and possibly messing up the circuit board or the connector
and sorry for the misleading comment on the turbo manifold, I cleared it up in a later post, but it got bumped back by hoov and bojo who seem to try and trash every thread they enter <_<
and sorry for the misleading comment on the turbo manifold, I cleared it up in a later post, but it got bumped back by hoov and bojo who seem to try and trash every thread they enter <_<
08-13-2009, 09:45 PM
#182
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Yes, but it would just be nice if everyone would just ignore him when he came into a topic about his 7 second car that he built for $2k, we all know it's not true, so why get in an argument over it?
08-14-2009, 02:48 AM
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how to mod the KA24 linkage to fit your stock stuff
http://www.graytechsoftware.com/garage/tbs_linkage.asp
http://www.graytechsoftware.com/garage/tbs_linkage.asp
08-14-2009, 10:34 AM
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Hmm. Think it would be worth it to cut off the stock plenum off the intake and port out the runners then weld a bigger tube onto the runners? I have a spare intake laying around...Along with a good sized metal tube (kinda like the lonewolf ones look like)
08-14-2009, 11:53 AM
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if your going to go threw the trouble of welding a new plenum on then you should hack the runners off and make new ones too. Ill go into some more detail when I have pics up for visual reference
08-14-2009, 01:23 PM
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Alright Sweet
08-14-2009, 02:04 PM
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I've noticed a lot of plenums are square, would a rounded plenum not be better pressure-wise?
08-14-2009, 02:07 PM
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yes and no, a square plenum isnt as efficient, but theres nothing to do with pressure.
08-14-2009, 08:55 PM
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a buddy of mine started making this and Im gonna finish it and mod it to work on the turbo car.
gonna change the TB plate. smooth out all the welds, and port all the runners.
and I might have to angle the mouth out at an angle to squeeze the IC piping in
gonna change the TB plate. smooth out all the welds, and port all the runners.
and I might have to angle the mouth out at an angle to squeeze the IC piping in
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08-14-2009, 09:06 PM
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Damn, Compared to that Mines going to look a little half assed ^^" As the only thing I have to weld with for that is a brazer. That and Im probably keeping the runners thats already on it. Maybe. I just dont want to have to fabricate a new throttle linkage
08-14-2009, 09:13 PM
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lol a brazer is not gonna fly for an aluminum intake
what are you having to make new linkage for?
08-14-2009, 09:17 PM
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