lostforawhile

ok went back to the junkyard today, took pictures of where that module came from, i double checked in there,nothing else is up there,this is the only box in that spare tire well. i also checked for cut wires,in case someone removed it,and there are none. so this has to be in,came from an 83 280 zx turbo.
[b] ok this is where it came from, it was mounted to the brace that runs cross wise in that spare tire area.

and heres the car

entropy31

doesn't that gold box have something to do with the compass? i think that the pots are for adjusting the compass or something, or maybe i am thinking of the z31.

lostforawhile

naa this is a different one, this one doesn't have the pots on it,it's just a much smaller gold box with a lot of wires coming from it. was behind that brace in the passenger side rear wheel well. i also heard in 84's it is sometimes above the computer in the passenger side kick panel. so dammmit i need to look again. this was an 83 turbo,but maby it was a late 83 . oh the box also said tokiko on it,i hope it's not a cruise or a suspension control box,this one had that electronic suspension

NismoPick

Wait... you got the box from this car? The car in the pic is a 300ZX not a 280ZX. The blue Z car in front of this gray car is a 280zx. That might be your problem.

lostforawhile

hmmm well i thought it wa a zx,it was an 83,i checked the plate on the door sill. so thats not betty? the other one with the pots came out of the blue car.

NismoPick

Quick lesson on Z cars:

S30 280z:



S130 280zx:



Z31 300zx:



Auto makers start to produce next years cars, in August of the previous year. An 09 car will be out in Aug 08.

lostforawhile

DOH,so this one has the betty in the kick panel above the computer?

NismoPick

Go back to page one of this thread... look at my post w/ the two pics. Now find a 1982-1983 280ZX and get the black box from the top of the right rear wheel well. Don't go looking through a 300zx for one, don't go looking through a 240z... Just find a 280zx.

lostforawhile

i'll just get the one from snowbird, he doesn't have any more z cars out there. those are the only two. they are hard to find around here. this is getting humerous, i can make one work with a wiring diagram,i just can't find the stupid thing on the car. of course all the z guys here would all go crazy trying to find the pop up headlight control box on an accord. bwhahahaha . i guess to each their own, i used to remember all these different models years ago,been a long time. last time i had a datsun i used to have hair. i do appreciate all the help though.

NismoPick

There's always the trusty internet, Haynes manual, or FSM.

Knowing where to get information... priceless.

snwbrderphat540

i feel like a turd, i still havent gotten out to that car. its gonna be warm this week. so PM me tuesday the 11th in the after noon for a reminder.

lostforawhile

ok got one,this is the correct betty, now does someone have a wiring diagram,or a wire by wire that tells which wire goes to what? it's the same one thats pictured earlier in the thread. i might still get that one from your parts car snwbrd in case this one doesn't work,or as a spare. it's this one

lostforawhile

um anybody? i think it came out of a 79

NismoPick

A 79 eh?

79-81's didn't have the voice warning box. Thus the reason I said 82-83.

Check our documents thread: https://www.zdriver.com/forums/site-brainstorming-259/documents-thread-21185/

or www.xenons130.com

lostforawhile

it's actually an 81 probably an early 82 was back at the yard today, 81 280zx, said 81 on the door sill plate. too bad it's in a yard the body could be saved. just all tore up as far as the interior, engine is still in it and tranny and rear end. someone who had a lot of parts could save it.

NismoPick

me so confused...

lostforawhile

well i found one said 81 but it's def betty, maby thats the early 82 or something now i need a wiring diagram i can make sense of or just which wires go to what is all probably an 82 diagram. i've heard on some of the earliest bettys that they spoke in a french accent. this may very well be one. oh even the rubber band that drives the record is in good shape

lostforawhile

WOOT betty lives and she has a very distinct japanese accent. reminds of of the old stop motion japanese movies. the female computer.

lostforawhile

ok mystery here both door warnings work and the parking brake warnings work but not the fuel or the headlights

lostforawhile

ok figured out the lights have to leave power connected to the light wire and disconnect power to the main power wire then ground the drivers side door wire. then you get the BOOP lights on!! heres a thread at my home site with a short video. still trying to figure out the fuel one, i belive the way it's wired it needs to sense a change froma positive voltage to a negative state. without the switch in the fuel sender grounded, it would show +12 volts, then when the switch grounds it would show a - http://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64297

lostforawhile

ok this is a copy of my post at zcar.com
she's physically mounted in the car, i made special brackets to mount her behind the inside quarter panels. this is a large heavy module and you need to use the original brackets to mount it, i modified that to make it work. normally you run the speaker wires from the left speaker right through the box, it interupts the speaker for the warning, the problem is the warning isn't very loud. on the circuit board of the box is a relay that switches from radio to voice warning,every time it says something, the coil on this relay is 8 volts while operating, not 12 but close enough to operate a bosch relay. i tapped off of the relay coil and now i have a bosch relay that closes a circuit every time betty talks. i had already installed a 4 pole double throw 12 volt relay in the car for my old wired cell phone. when this relay is energized , it switches both of my front speakers from normal stereo operation, to mono operation with a single speaker level input. i am going to run the speaker level out from betty,through a small powered EQ to boost the volume level, then the output of the eq will drive the front speakers when switched. when i get a switched signal from betty ,it turns on the EQ and switches the front speakers over to it. then auto matically switches them back,should have a nice clear voice warning come out of both speakers. betty is the large box at the bottom of the pic
i still have to hook up the speed sensor,the ebrake wire,and the fuel ensor wire, i have my interior mostly out anyway,since i'm wiring a massive alarm system at the moment