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280zx2by2 10-09-2008 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by theramz
I am not racist and I have 2 adopted African American children. Obama is not black! To call himself black is an insult to his white mother. To denounce his own church after 20 years is ****** up. Just how does anyone "work their way through Harvard law school"? If he wins will he swear in on a Bible? He might not be Muslim but he sure as hell ain't Christian. jmo
Sorry Hoov, I can't vote for anyone who promises lower taxes and dosen't have the power to do so. But I think you would make a good mod.

wow theres so much wrong with this i dont know were to start

ok mabe i do... yeah hes half black but thats more black then any other president(well except for bill clinton)

and he didnt denounce his church just his preacher

and does anyone not work their way through college?

and he is a Christian(refer back to your church question) so why would he refuse to be swearn in(against his religion?)

and btw you might not be racist but you are ignorant as hell... get your facts before you start spreading what amounts to false political propaganda...




Originally Posted by Bleach
anyone who flaunts themselves around and asks to be a Moderator certainly won't be one.

Besides, we don't need more Mods

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Here is a REAL camp-pain ad for ya'll suthinerz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXFrW...eature=related

ahahaha saw the obama, clinton one on fox, but didnt see the mccain one... wonder why:075:

KasbeKZ 10-09-2008 01:07 PM

holy crap people. it doesn't matter what religion he is. there are a billion religions in the world. he won't get very far if he's trying to preach satanism, cause it's an extreme minority, but if he's not, it will be just fine. he won't be holding his very strange mass on the white house lawn, and he won't be changing the declaration to say that we all have to follow his religion. have tolerance.


put yourself in my position. if it were up to me, we would have an atheist president. we won't get one, so i have to deal with whichever of the religions that our president ends up having. i'm sure everyone else can deal with having a president that believes just a little differently than you do

280zx2by2 10-09-2008 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
holy crap people. it doesn't matter what religion he is. there are a billion religions in the world. he won't get very far if he's trying to preach satanism, cause it's an extreme minority, but if he's not, it will be just fine. he won't be holding his very strange mass on the white house lawn, and he won't be changing the declaration to say that we all have to follow his religion. have tolerance.


put yourself in my position. if it were up to me, we would have an atheist president. we won't get one, so i have to deal with whichever of the religions that our president ends up having. i'm sure everyone else can deal with having a president that believes just a little differently than you do

you got some gooood points you get 2 stars **

i hate to piss everyone off but i would prefer an athiest president too...

i mean if people dont belive in aliens and ghosts how can they belive in god?:102: it is just a matter of logic that i guess some people dont have(and dont act like i grew up in a athiest home, when i was little i went to church every sunday and wednesday and my mom still goes every sunday)i just figured from a young age that some of the things they were saying didnt make much sence

KasbeKZ 10-09-2008 01:47 PM

well that's a whole other debate there. i don't discuss that one on here though. it's a little less tolerated than supporting a democrat.

theramz 10-09-2008 02:01 PM

I doubt if he was flippin burgers to pay Harvard tuition. I listen to his words not the media.

KasbeKZ 10-09-2008 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
you got some gooood points you get 2 stars **


i give the stars here kid. :biggrin:**

KasbeKZ 10-09-2008 02:03 PM

he could have had a certain amount of scholarship and grant money and just needed to work to make up the difference. or maybe "he worked through it" just means that he worked hard in school.

theramz 10-09-2008 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
hey everyone... STFU Obama wins election end of story. black president will probably be killed in office McCain will probably die a week after election from being older than piss. Biden wins. better than Palin.

The murder of the first (half) black president would be a tragedy for all of us.

280zx2by2 10-09-2008 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by theramz
I doubt if he was flippin burgers to pay Harvard tuition. I listen to his words not the media.

He payed the tuition though student loans... Obama just payed off the loans several years ago(i think it was when his wife got promoted at the hospital she was working at) hell i could pay for harvard if i had the time and motivation to...

280zx2by2 10-09-2008 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by theramz
The murder of the first (half) black president would be a tragedy for all of us.

wow i can hear you saying that with a sarcastic tone through my internet connection....

theramz 10-09-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
wow i can hear you saying that with a sarcastic tone through my internet connection....

Correction, half white.

ZBRICK 10-09-2008 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2

and btw you might not be racist but you are ignorant as hell... get your facts before you start spreading what amounts to false political propaganda...

:075:

Typical liberal - resorting to name calling.

Regarding getting the facts straight, did I hear the pot calling the kettle BLACK???????????



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rtmorgan 10-09-2008 05:06 PM

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........pot.......... :033:

Bleach 10-09-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
i could pay for harvard if i had the time and motivation to...

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...rdanidiot2.jpg word

280zx2by2 10-09-2008 05:49 PM

it still amuses me you guys have this picture... im glad you like me that much... yet im a little scared that you DO still have this pic... and no bleach you cant get my home address... but you can make good friends with Chris Hansen and msnbc....


:58: <- bleach and little boys....:103: :103:

Bleach 10-09-2008 08:05 PM

don't flatter yourself.

chinesekid 10-09-2008 08:36 PM

was to lazy to read everything, so what are you guys arguing about now? hahah

260zturbo 10-09-2008 08:36 PM

this thread is funny but sad at the same time.

snwbrderphat540 10-09-2008 09:41 PM

i want attention!!! wawawa.... lol.


time to toss gas on the fire

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/133cd351c1

POW! watch it.

280zx2by2 10-10-2008 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
i want attention!!! wawawa.... lol.


time to toss gas on the fire

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/133cd351c1

POW! watch it.

WOW THAT SHITS HOT...

Bleach 10-10-2008 08:00 AM

well, I never go out in anything less than an up-armored Humvee either! :D

KasbeKZ 10-10-2008 09:05 AM

haha good stuff. sadly though, i can't expect that there wouldn't be one just like it for obama though

haha that web site is awesome

theramz 10-10-2008 10:05 AM

Happy BLACK FRIDAY everyone! And I don't mean skin color! The entire world economy is taking a giant shit today! There is no one that can spend their way out of this. Don't blame Bush or our Democratic congress. We are all to blame! If Obama wasn't a non white we never would have heard of him.

KasbeKZ 10-10-2008 10:21 AM

are you kidding? i haven't heard anything about a black friday

NismoPick 10-10-2008 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
are you kidding? i haven't heard anything about a black friday

Are YOU kidding? Check the Dow... It's lost like 4000 points in the past month.

PS... now is a perfect time to buy stocks! Get em while they are cheap.

snwbrderphat540 10-10-2008 11:14 AM

yeah... sept who knows which stocks will come back up and which will just be a failure company and drop out of existence. lol.


also sure "we" are to blame for taking out mortgages we cant afford, but thats part of the companies responsibility to make sure that they dont take that risk. giving out loans to people that cant afford them, THEY are to blame for the failure of their own company and the CEO's for wasting away millions of dollars on personal expenses and just straight up stealing from the company. oh and i dont have any money to buy stocks otherwise i would haha

280zx2by2 10-10-2008 12:44 PM

its funny because if you look at all of the causes of the first stock market crash we have some of the same simularities... just coming off of a war(kind of), bad president, inflation is everywhere, and we have an added problem in fuel costs... i just hope Obama or Mccain dont turn out to be the next Hoover

Bleach 10-10-2008 01:46 PM

If obama becomes Prez, by the end of 4 years 2012 will truely be the end of the world.

SportBikeMike 10-10-2008 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
If obama becomes Prez, by the end of 4 years 2012 will truely be the end of the world.

If not before.

Hey snw, great sig man!!

Bleach 10-10-2008 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
If not before.

Hey snw, great sig man!!

Dec 21, 2012... that's it. Look it up on youtube! :D

WildmaN 10-11-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
wow theres so much wrong with this i dont know were to start

ok mabe i do... yeah hes half black but thats more black then any other president(well except for bill clinton)

and he didnt denounce his church just his preacher

and does anyone not work their way through college?

and he is a Christian(refer back to your church question) so why would he refuse to be swearn in(against his religion?)

and btw you might not be racist but you are ignorant as hell... get your facts before you start spreading what amounts to false political propaganda...




ahahaha saw the obama, clinton one on fox, but didnt see the mccain one... wonder why:075:

He is not a Christian...Please quit insulting my beliefs. And giving us Christians a bad name. Obama is a Christian...as much as the Antichrist is. And if he is swearing on a Bible. And is not heeding to it. He will be harshly judged for it. Now I will get to my point. Why he is not a Christian.

1. He is a Democrat..which are against all that Real Christians believe.

2. Democrats believe in abortion. Which I do not..and I believe is murder and killing.

That should get you started. Thanks for listening.

WildmaN 10-11-2008 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
you got some gooood points you get 2 stars **

i hate to piss everyone off but i would prefer an athiest president too...

i mean if people dont belive in aliens and ghosts how can they belive in god?:102: it is just a matter of logic that i guess some people dont have(and dont act like i grew up in a athiest home, when i was little i went to church every sunday and wednesday and my mom still goes every sunday)i just figured from a young age that some of the things they were saying didnt make much sence

Now...that's just ignorant. What does believing in aliens and ghosts have to to with believing in God? Nothing...if there were aliens. Jesus Christ would of had to die more than once. Now does that make sense? No...He died here on the cross on the Earth for our sins. Which are all the sins that mankind has done. From the beginning to the end. All you have to do. Is ask God to forgive you of your sins. So there can't be aliens on another planet or whatever. Just goes against creation and the Bible. As for ghosts...there is no such beings that haunt people. There are spirits...but that is a totally different matter.

Thank you for listening again.. Oh one more thing.. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the EARTH.. Gen 1:1

I'm done now. Sorry if I upset anybody. But I will not hide my beliefs from people. On certain points.

280zx2by2 10-11-2008 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by WildmaN
Now...that's just ignorant. What does believing in aliens and ghosts have to to with believing in God? Nothing...if there were aliens. Jesus Christ would of had to die more than once. Now does that make sense? No...He died here on the cross on the Earth for our sins. Which are all the sins that mankind has done. From the beginning to the end. All you have to do. Is ask God to forgive you of your sins. So there can't be aliens on another planet or whatever. Just goes against creation and the Bible. As for ghosts...there is no such beings that haunt people. There are spirits...but that is a totally different matter.

Thank you for listening again.. Oh one more thing.. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the EARTH.. Gen 1:1

I'm done now. Sorry if I upset anybody. But I will not hide my beliefs from people. On certain points.

yeah and noah had an ark that carried 2 of every animal in the entire earth and darwin is a complete idiot, natural selection is completely wrong... i understand where your coming from

and if you want to go on with this do so but we should realize this interferes with forum rules... so lets stop and not get banned

snwbrderphat540 10-11-2008 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by WildmaN
Now...that's just ignorant. What does believing in aliens and ghosts have to to with believing in God? Nothing...if there were aliens. Jesus Christ would of had to die more than once. Now does that make sense? No...He died here on the cross on the Earth for our sins. Which are all the sins that mankind has done. From the beginning to the end. All you have to do. Is ask God to forgive you of your sins. So there can't be aliens on another planet or whatever. Just goes against creation and the Bible. As for ghosts...there is no such beings that haunt people. There are spirits...but that is a totally different matter.

Thank you for listening again.. Oh one more thing.. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the EARTH.. Gen 1:1

I'm done now. Sorry if I upset anybody. But I will not hide my beliefs from people. On certain points.

im NOT IN ANYWAY saying there is no god, but i am saying every religion is wrong. no one has ever talked to god no one ever knew god.... everything is a fabricated shame to get people to follow the leader and an easy scapegoat as to WHY things happen/exist. so there for, it makes perfect sense. there was no adam and eve humans never walked with dinosaurs noah never had an ark, and if jesus existed he may have died for us in some sense i guess but in no way do i feel he was the son of god to virgin mary, back then kids without mariage you were a whore, how do you solve that problem? say your a virgin and this is a miracle child. also they have never been able to find any proof of jesus existing and the bibles and such were writen like 100 years AFTER his death if i remember correctly, so how the hell did they know how correct the story went?


oh and technically if killing a zygote is murder taking off a piece of my skin is murdered cause they have about the same in common. its only murder once it resembles a person aka has organs. more like a heart beat, prior to that i say stab away at that little nusence. oh but i also dont think abortion should be an answer to birth control its more like if your safe sex fails and its in no way beneficial for you to have that kid. but also i think its really the womans choice.... im not bearing the child though i may be the reason it lives. she would get final call. taking away that right is no ones call especially on based on politics. and the church is christian just ran by a radical black man. i even think they use bibles and all! thats pretty legit right?


also, maybe there were more than one "jesus" but we would never know he wold have to have died as proof on another planet where there's intelligent life. would we have ever known? and if you say yes i need some back up on that one bro cause thats just shootin in the dark.

280zx2by2 10-11-2008 05:53 PM

again lets stop and not get banned(although i can't find the forum rules which is kind of funny)

ZBRICK 10-11-2008 06:08 PM

Wildman, you do not have to appoligize for expressing your thoughts.

I respect your thoughts. Keep real.



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ZBRICK 10-11-2008 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
im NOT IN ANYWAY saying there is no god, but i am saying every religion is wrong. no one has ever talked to god no one ever knew god.... everything is a fabricated shame to get people to follow the leader and an easy scapegoat as to WHY things happen/exist. so there for, it makes perfect sense. there was no adam and eve humans never walked with dinosaurs noah never had an ark, and if jesus existed he may have died for us in some sense i guess but in no way do i feel he was the son of god to virgin mary, back then kids without mariage you were a whore, how do you solve that problem? say your a virgin and this is a miracle child. also they have never been able to find any proof of jesus existing and the bibles and such were writen like 100 years AFTER his death if i remember correctly, so how the hell did they know how correct the story went?


oh and technically if killing a zygote is murder taking off a piece of my skin is murdered cause they have about the same in common. its only murder once it resembles a person aka has organs. more like a heart beat, prior to that i say stab away at that little nusence. oh but i also dont think abortion should be an answer to birth control its more like if your safe sex fails and its in no way beneficial for you to have that kid. but also i think its really the womans choice.... im not bearing the child though i may be the reason it lives. she would get final call. taking away that right is no ones call especially on based on politics. and the church is christian just ran by a radical black man. i even think they use bibles and all! thats pretty legit right?


also, maybe there were more than one "jesus" but we would never know he wold have to have died as proof on another planet where there's intelligent life. would we have ever known? and if you say yes i need some back up on that one bro cause thats just shootin in the dark.

Snow, come back, it seemed that you were coming around. We have work to do.

SportBikeMike 10-11-2008 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540

oh and technically if killing a zygote is murder taking off a piece of my skin is murdered cause they have about the same in common. its only murder once it resembles a person aka has organs. more like a heart beat, prior to that i say stab away at that little nusence. oh but i also dont think abortion should be an answer to birth control its more like if your safe sex fails and its in no way beneficial for you to have that kid. but also i think its really the womans choice.... im not bearing the child though i may be the reason it lives. she would get final call. taking away that right is no ones call especially on based on politics. and the church is christian just ran by a radical black man. i even think they use bibles and all! thats pretty legit right?


also, maybe there were more than one "jesus" but we would never know he wold have to have died as proof on another planet where there's intelligent life. would we have ever known? and if you say yes i need some back up on that one bro cause thats just shootin in the dark.

What about partial birth abortion (where a 7-month old fetus is induced from the mom's womb and a fork is inserted into the baby's head to suck the brains out)or infanticide where a baby who survived an abortion is thrown into a back room w/o medical care and left to die. Are these not human beings? They have limbs, organs, etc, and have the human form. I've heard partial-birth abortion babies even raise their arms to defend themselves! Pure murder if you ask me. And BTW Obama favors both these procedures (he's voted 4 times against the passing of a bill that would outlaw infanticide). Even if I agreed with everything else Obama stood for, I would never support someone who favors these procedures. Pure evil IMO.

SportBikeMike 10-11-2008 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by ZBRICK
Wildman, you do not have to appoligize for expressing your thoughts.

I respect your thoughts. Keep real.



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I'll second that. I know the far left and the ACLU would like Christianity to disappear from the country....but unfortunately for them, this country was founded on Christianity and over 70% of the population are Christians. So screw 'em!!

280zx2by2 10-11-2008 06:45 PM

i do belive Obama is wrong in partial birth abortion but it is a partisan issue...

ZBRICK 10-11-2008 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
i do belive Obama is wrong in partial birth abortion but it is a partisan issue...

Are you kidding, tell that baby that was kille dthat is is partisan

WildmaN 10-11-2008 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by ZBRICK
Wildman, you do not have to appoligize for expressing your thoughts.

I respect your thoughts. Keep real.



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Thank you very much man. I appreciate that. I have no problem telling people on what I believe and stand for. And I wont back down for anyone. Thank you again...for the kind words. God Bless. :)

WildmaN 10-11-2008 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
im NOT IN ANYWAY saying there is no god, but i am saying every religion is wrong. no one has ever talked to god no one ever knew god.... everything is a fabricated shame to get people to follow the leader and an easy scapegoat as to WHY things happen/exist. so there for, it makes perfect sense. there was no adam and eve humans never walked with dinosaurs noah never had an ark, and if jesus existed he may have died for us in some sense i guess but in no way do i feel he was the son of god to virgin mary, back then kids without mariage you were a whore, how do you solve that problem? say your a virgin and this is a miracle child. also they have never been able to find any proof of jesus existing and the bibles and such were writen like 100 years AFTER his death if i remember correctly, so how the hell did they know how correct the story went?


oh and technically if killing a zygote is murder taking off a piece of my skin is murdered cause they have about the same in common. its only murder once it resembles a person aka has organs. more like a heart beat, prior to that i say stab away at that little nusence. oh but i also dont think abortion should be an answer to birth control its more like if your safe sex fails and its in no way beneficial for you to have that kid. but also i think its really the womans choice.... im not bearing the child though i may be the reason it lives. she would get final call. taking away that right is no ones call especially on based on politics. and the church is christian just ran by a radical black man. i even think they use bibles and all! thats pretty legit right?


also, maybe there were more than one "jesus" but we would never know he wold have to have died as proof on another planet where there's intelligent life. would we have ever known? and if you say yes i need some back up on that one bro cause thats just shootin in the dark.

All can say is...I feel sorry for you man. And I do hope you come around...and learn to accept the truth. The big proof for what the Bible means. Is faith...that is the key thing in believing in God and the Bible. If you don't have faith. You wont know God. And I have felt his presence all my life. Especially when I gave my life to him when I was younger. And recently...when I turned my life around. From rebelling for so many years. And since I have come back to Him. I have been truly blessed. Especially with my girlfriend. And I have a huge goal in mind. That I will discuss in my other thread.

One thing I would ask you though man. Please don't call the virgin Mary a whore. I don't much appreciate that whatsoever. Don't you know..that God can do anything He wants? And He made it to where the Son of God was in the womb. Without any male sperm. Because God is Awesome...and nothing is impossible with Him.

Anyway I will pray for you...and anybody else. That is still lost in this evil world. And I am not trying to preach to people. Or put them down. Not my intention. I am trying to keep it friendly...and respectable. While sharing my views and thoughts. With what I will stand for...till eternity. Thanks again for listening. :)

WildmaN 10-11-2008 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
I'll second that. I know the far left and the ACLU would like Christianity to disappear from the country....but unfortunately for them, this country was founded on Christianity and over 70% of the population are Christians. So screw 'em!!

Thank you too man. I really appreciate you backing me up also. You have a good head on your shoulders. And know what is going on. And you are not blind like most are. No offense to anyone though. All aside...thanks a bunch bro'. And God Bless you too. :)

theramz 10-11-2008 08:26 PM

Oh my blank! Sounds strange. Who do you yell at during sex! lol
I feel sorry for you guys racing toward the end of your life without any hope, what was your purpose in life? What did you contribute to society or the human race?
Both of my adopted kids were born addicted to cocain. They are both 16 and are above average students. You don't know what it's like to watch a baby go through withdrawal and be devopmentally and phyically delayed. Maybe you would stick a fork in their head and watch them die. I chose to fall down on my knees and ask God to save them. Maybe you will simply evaporate when you die, maybe you will change your beliefs and simply accept God into your life. I know where I'm going and with my last breath I will say hello to Jesus. Good luck, Tom

WildmaN 10-11-2008 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by theramz
Oh my blank! Sounds strange. Who do you yell at during sex! lol
I feel sorry for you guys racing toward the end of your life without any hope, what was your purpose in life? What did you contribute to society or the human race?
Both of my adopted kids were born addicted to cocain. They are both 16 and are above average students. You don't know what it's like to watch a baby go through withdrawal and be devopmentally and phyically delayed. Maybe you would stick a fork in their head and watch them die. I chose to fall down on my knees and ask God to save them. Maybe you will simply evaporate when you die, maybe you will change your beliefs and simply accept God into your life. I know where I'm going and with my last breath I will say hello to Jesus. Good luck, Tom

Wow man...I am speechless. You have made good points. And I hope people will realize the truth. Props to you for letting God handle things. And thank you for coming out. And sharing your belief in God. We need more individuals like you. God Bless you man. :)

Oh...lol at the first comment..that was pretty good. :037:

SportBikeMike 10-11-2008 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by WildmaN
Thank you too man. I really appreciate you backing me up also. You have a good head on your shoulders. And know what is going on. And you are not blind like most are. No offense to anyone though. All aside...thanks a bunch bro'. And God Bless you too. :)


No problem man. I just get tired of the way Christians get criticized more and more in this country. Just ain't right.

theramz 10-11-2008 09:16 PM

There are more of "us" than you think! What if each of us helped save one soul? I was saved by an Angel and a whore. Did you guys know that the song Amazing Grace was written by a man who was once a slave trader? God is everywhere no matter what the lost say.

WildmaN 10-11-2008 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by theramz
There are more of "us" than you think! What if each of us helped save one soul? I was saved by an Angel and a whore. Did you guys know that the song Amazing Grace was written by a man who was once a slave trader? God is everywhere no matter what the lost say.

Amen to that one man. Yes Amazing Grace is a very heartfelt and touching song. And God is everywhere...always has been. Whether people choose to accept it or not. Props to you..and God Bless. :)

snwbrderphat540 10-12-2008 12:07 AM

i think you all need to re-read my post. i was pretty specific up to what i think is taking a life guys. i dont believe in third trimester birth and such, once it has a heart it kinda is murder.... why? cause i have a heart to. and i want to believe there is a god out there, but its hard to turn away from science. and in a way i think i do believe in god, but its in my own way and i'll never turn myself to one religion, i was born and baptized a roman catholic and was in church up until my first communion and want to get my confirmation for some reason.... but i dont really believe in one religion being right. and i wasnt calling her a whore, once again, reading comprehension. she was with david and a baby came but i dont believe they were in a marriage so to be pregnant and not married was VIEWWD as a whore in those days. so many woman from then on after that got pregnant with no man claimed they are virgins and their babies are miracles. wasnt uncommon if yah read up into dem history books.


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