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KasbeKZ 10-02-2008 06:24 PM

haha i guess that's true. niether of your vehicles is likely to break down at all

280zx2by2 10-02-2008 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
Obama is a racist as his own words delcare. Voting for McCain because he is white is no better than black people voting for Obama because of the color of his skin. Have you seen those t-shirts that say "vote for a black man to be the next president" doesn't even say anything about Obama, they just want someone black in that seat. whatever!

i guess its different in the south... people will tell you strait to your face that there not voting for obama cause he's black...

NismoPick 10-02-2008 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
i guess its different in the south... people will tell you strait to your face that there not voting for obama cause he's black...

Blacks in the South won't vote for Obama?

280zx2by2 10-02-2008 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick
Blacks in the South won't vote for Obama?

they either vote for obama or they dont vote at all which is racist apon its self i guess...

Bleach 10-02-2008 07:58 PM

everything I do is racist because I'm a race. Wanna race?

KasbeKZ 10-02-2008 07:58 PM

true that. i hate the idea of voting for someone because they are black

snwbrderphat540 10-02-2008 08:28 PM

who watched the debate? Palin lost... not as spectacularly as i thought/hoped but she still just wasnt as strong.

SportBikeMike 10-02-2008 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
who watched the debate? Palin lost... not as spectacularly as i thought/hoped but she still just wasnt as strong.

NO WAY DUDE. Sarah kicked ass!!! She made Biden look like the tired old man he is. Had him all flustered. I'd like to see her debate B. Hussein...she'd kick his ass even more so!

snwbrderphat540 10-02-2008 10:29 PM

LOL all the media and the McCain supporters on the kawi forums seem to feel differently mike. she definitely ran around in to many circles, and had fewer answers than Biden. i think you were watching the wrong channel :D

SportBikeMike 10-02-2008 10:57 PM

Of course the media don't think so...they're all libs. The conservative sites I've been on thought she did great. I was so fired-up I was screaming and pumping my fist! GO SARAH!!!!

snwbrderphat540 10-02-2008 11:24 PM

ARGH! its one thing to be a McCain fan i dont really have any issues there, im not one, but i wont judge anyone who is i can understand, but to honestly like that woman.... down right disturbing. no business to be a VP running mate other than political reasons. but W/E

hoov100 10-03-2008 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
WRONG

bleach entropy are the only mods that used to frequent now mostly just bleach, godZilla is owner LWW (not I dumb ass :D ) is an admin. RIZZ is a.... mod? maybe admin.... i forget... and there used to be silverhand admin. and i forget who else


also, i honestly think i would be very good at an S30 mod, however i dont give a shit. lol. and i NEVER said i would do a better job. and as far as i remember you sold your Z31 to a tard and you dailyed it kept up maint but nothing to far over that it seemed, let your Z32 blow up and never got past a rolling chassis on the S30 and sold that to whats his face that was doing a complete re-wire with a turbo swap and then dissappeared. never heard about you having an S130 though.....

my s30 never really made it that far, but back home there where quite a few s30's that i put my hands on. yes i sold my 3'rd z31 to a tard. yes i killed the z32, but their where alot of other problems with it, from the lack of maint. by the previous owners. and my firzt z was an s130, that is actually on the road now. and almost everywhere i go i end up getting my hands dirty on a z. hell i made a 30 minute layover in NM and ended up helping some guy with an 87 z31 turbo. its not my fault i dont have parents to lend me money to buy the z's i want snw.

SportBikeMike 10-03-2008 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
ARGH! its one thing to be a McCain fan i dont really have any issues there, im not one, but i wont judge anyone who is i can understand, but to honestly like that woman.... down right disturbing. no business to be a VP running mate other than political reasons. but W/E


What disturbing about her? I'll tell you whats disturbing. A Presidential candidate who has ties to terrorists like William Ayers and attended a ant-American, racist church for 20 years and whos' middle name is Hussein. THATS disturbing. And if you want to talk about experience, Palin was a mayor and governor, Obama was a do-nothing IL senator (voted present 134 times) and a do-nothing US senator who has spent practically his whole first term campaigning! Oh yeah, but he was a "community organizer".:037: Obama is a joke!

hoov100 10-03-2008 08:23 AM

how the hell does 2 admins and 2 detonators and a spammer equal 15 votes?

Bleach 10-03-2008 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
What disturbing about her? I'll tell you whats disturbing. A Presidential candidate who has ties to terrorists like William Ayers and attended a ant-American, racist church for 20 years and whos' middle name is Hussein. THATS disturbing. And if you want to talk about experience, Palin was a mayor and governor, Obama was a do-nothing IL senator (voted present 134 times) and a do-nothing US senator who has spent practically his whole first term campaigning! Oh yeah, but he was a "community organizer".:037: Obama is a joke!

oh, Obama did something. He backed organizations to sue companies for not giving out enough sub prime mortgages a couple years ago. He PUSHED for poor people who couldn't afford homes to be given loans to own a home. If anything, we're in this foreclosure crisis because of democrats like him.

SportBikeMike 10-03-2008 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Bleach
oh, Obama did something. He backed organizations to sue companies for not giving out enough sub prime mortgages a couple years ago. He PUSHED for poor people who couldn't afford homes to be given loans to own a home. If anything, we're in this foreclosure crisis because of democrats like him.


Exactly! McCain needs to bring this out in the next debate.

snwbrderphat540 10-03-2008 09:26 AM

for the record, i has LOANED money ONCE EVER to purchase my Z32 and paid it off in full, all the other Z's i had and maintenence done were done BY ME and with MY MONEY other than one christmas where i asked only for Z parts, but who doesnt do that?


also, i here talking but i dont see any reputable sources to back up allegations. and the hussein middle name relating that to terroists because of its muslim backgrounds is pretty damn racist dude. also, he doesnt want to "be friends" and support terrorism but sometimes tryin to TALK and diffuse the situation creating stronger foreign relations goes alot further than killing people.

Bleach 10-03-2008 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by hoov100
how the hell does 2 admins and 2 detonators and a spammer equal 15 votes?

2+2 = somewhere between 2 and 15

Bleach 10-03-2008 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
also, i here talking but i dont see any reputable sources to back up allegations.

It is not necessary. This isn't debate class and I'm not going to convince you of anything even with sources listed. :D I know you site sources on occasion, but I don't check them out.

SportBikeMike 10-03-2008 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540

also, i here talking but i dont see any reputable sources to back up allegations. and the hussein middle name relating that to terroists because of its muslim backgrounds is pretty damn racist dude. also, he doesnt want to "be friends" and support terrorism but sometimes tryin to TALK and diffuse the situation creating stronger foreign relations goes alot further than killing people.

Dude, Hussein IS his middle name! And Muslim is not a race, it's a religion, so how can it be "racist"??

And please...don't make me post the sources....like you've never heard of Ayers or Reverend Wright or Obama's "stellar" IL senate record???

snwbrderphat540 10-03-2008 11:36 AM

obama in illinois brought welfare cases into jobs, was one of the biggest pushes for women to make equal money in the work place in illinois and also was the reason for some of the largest tax drops seen, since he has been gone, notice a trend in taxes? UP UP UP!!! not just liek income taxes either, sales taxes! lol thats ridiculous! chicago has the highest sales tax in the nation. and i know hussein is his middle name, i said that. lol. and racist is appropriate, its a religion based in the middle eastern countries and some of africa. hating jews is considered racist is it not? is it not A RELIGION! theres no such thing as religiousist.... theres these types of discrimination, sexist, ageist, racist, and i forget the word of hating handicapped people, now which one of those topics do you think discriminating against a religion is closest to? especially a religion focused in one segment of the world. RACIST! also, that was the religion he was born into and converted to a christian one, a very objectionable branch but still christian. also, they never said or claimed to hate the country, if you watch any of their speeches his or michelles or any written works, they love the country they grew up in, i dont think if you hated the country you would run for president! they have hated the way this country was run under the bush administration what it has been being turned to and they want to change it, bring it back to the nation it used to be with strong foreign affairs, strong economy, and one of if not THE most respected country in the world....


also, i dont expect people to back up everything they say liek the good that they support for their candidate and so on, but if your going to try to tear into one using the media propaganda thats either completely fabricated or so twisted its lost all roots of its original context, i would like to see where you are getting these from.

SportBikeMike 10-03-2008 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
obama in illinois brought welfare cases into jobs, was one of the biggest pushes for women to make equal money in the work place in illinois and also was the reason for some of the largest tax drops seen, since he has been gone, notice a trend in taxes? UP UP UP!!! not just liek income taxes either, sales taxes! lol thats ridiculous! chicago has the highest sales tax in the nation. and i know hussein is his middle name, i said that. lol. and racist is appropriate, its a religion based in the middle eastern countries and some of africa. hating jews is considered racist is it not? is it not A RELIGION! theres no such thing as religiousist.... theres these types of discrimination, sexist, ageist, racist, and i forget the word of hating handicapped people, now which one of those topics do you think discriminating against a religion is closest to? especially a religion focused in one segment of the world. RACIST! also, that was the religion he was born into and converted to a christian one, a very objectionable branch but still christian. also, they never said or claimed to hate the country, if you watch any of their speeches his or michelles or any written works, they love the country they grew up in, i dont think if you hated the country you would run for president! they have hated the way this country was run under the bush administration what it has been being turned to and they want to change it, bring it back to the nation it used to be with strong foreign affairs, strong economy, and one of if not THE most respected country in the world....


also, i dont expect people to back up everything they say liek the good that they support for their candidate and so on, but if your going to try to tear into one using the media propaganda thats either completely fabricated or so twisted its lost all roots of its original context, i would like to see where you are getting these from.


LOL did you copy and paste all that stuff directly from B. Hussein's website? If Michelle obama loves America so much why did she say in one of her speeches that she has never been proud to be an American until Barack ran for President? This despite growing up privileged and going to an Ivy Leaugue school. Ahhh...poor oppressed minority.:083: If Obama loves America so much why did he attend a church for 20 years where the pastor (and also Obama's "mentor) is a black-separatist who consistently preached the evil of the white man and America (G-D America!) and even accused the US government of spreading AIDs to blacks? If Obama loves America so much, why is he buddies with William Ayers, a one time member of the terrorist group, the Weatherman, who once tried to blow-up the pentagon? And if you think the Bush Administration is solely responsible for the economy, you're sadly mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the economy started taking a turn for the worse when the Dems took over congress in January, 2007. Lets not forget Obama's ties to Fannie-Mae, Freddy-Mac, and ACORN. I think one of his responsibilities as a "community organizer" was forcing lending institutions to give out $300,000 loans to people who could only afford $100,000 houses. Real smart. The Dems have played a HUGE part in the current financial crisis, and Obama has been right in the middle of it. Hopefully McCain hammers this home on the debate next Tuesday so Obama will be further exposed.

hoov100 10-03-2008 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
for the record, i has LOANED money ONCE EVER to purchase my Z32 and paid it off in full, all the other Z's i had and maintenence done were done BY ME and with MY MONEY other than one christmas where i asked only for Z parts, but who doesnt do that?

that made almost no sense at all, but whatever..

280zx2by2 10-03-2008 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
Of course the media don't think so...they're all libs. The conservative sites I've been on thought she did great. I was so fired-up I was screaming and pumping my fist! GO SARAH!!!!

lol ok if you want a conservative view point watch fox, if you want a liberal view point watch msnbc... i view myself as closer to liberals but i only watch fox, thats what i do to balance myself out so i can see both sides

and btw biden did whoop palins ass, she just covered it up with smiles and her(no offence) lame as hell northern accent...

why? she only answers about 40-50% of the questions asked of her, the rest of the time she would skip it and go back to another question asked earlier... so biden whooped her ass on sevearal topics as palin whooped his ass on mabe 2 or 3... ill get some youtube vids links later when they come out

SportBikeMike 10-03-2008 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by 280zx2by2
lol ok if you want a conservative view point watch fox, if you want a liberal view point watch msnbc... i view myself as closer to liberals but i only watch fox, thats what i do to balance myself out so i can see both sides

and btw biden did whoop palins ass, she just covered it up with smiles and her(no offence) lame as hell northern accent...

why? she only answers about 40-50% of the questions asked of her, the rest of the time she would skip it and go back to another question asked earlier... so biden whooped her ass on sevearal topics as palin whooped his ass on mabe 2 or 3... ill get some youtube vids links later when they come out

Well, thats your opinion and I disagree strongly. She clearly won the debate. Biden about put me to sleep. Liberals are just pissed-off because they wanted her to completely tank it, especially after her poor interview with Couric (I think she was sandbagging), and instead she came out and kicked ass. Hopefully, McCain will do the same Tuesday.

snwbrderphat540 10-03-2008 04:05 PM

ok ok... we can argue opinions all day, but palin lost, it wasnt spectacular but she lost she had the least amount to say.

and hoov, if that didnt make sense you might be illiterate. even though i doubt that. like i said, my parents give me shelter and food and are taking loans out for me for college, they arent paying for it though. otherwise i buy my own insurance gas cars parts and the ninja, ALL from me working hard and being a crafty Z salesman/restorer. not my fault i make bank on that shit lol.

soooo.... wanna make out? you know who you are!

ZBRICK 10-03-2008 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=snwbrderphat540] hating jews is considered racist is it not? is it not A RELIGION! theres no such thing as religiousist....

Jewish is a race and a religion

ZBRICK 10-03-2008 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
LOL did you copy and paste all that stuff directly from B. Hussein's website? If Michelle obama loves America so much why did she say in one of her speeches that she has never been proud to be an American until Barack ran for President? This despite growing up privileged and going to an Ivy Leaugue school. Ahhh...poor oppressed minority.:083: If Obama loves America so much why did he attend a church for 20 years where the pastor (and also Obama's "mentor) is a black-separatist who consistently preached the evil of the white man and America (G-D America!) and even accused the US government of spreading AIDs to blacks? If Obama loves America so much, why is he buddies with William Ayers, a one time member of the terrorist group, the Weatherman, who once tried to blow-up the pentagon? And if you think the Bush Administration is solely responsible for the economy, you're sadly mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the economy started taking a turn for the worse when the Dems took over congress in January, 2007. Lets not forget Obama's ties to Fannie-Mae, Freddy-Mac, and ACORN. I think one of his responsibilities as a "community organizer" was forcing lending institutions to give out $300,000 loans to people who could only afford $100,000 houses. Real smart. The Dems have played a HUGE part in the current financial crisis, and Obama has been right in the middle of it. Hopefully McCain hammers this home on the debate next Tuesday so Obama will be further exposed.

Makes perfect sence. You know your stuff

ZBRICK 10-03-2008 04:35 PM

snw, your on the wrong side again. We need you on the RIGHT side

z-hag 10-03-2008 05:12 PM

i just want the alaska pipeline dollars...:wink::icon_kidra:

SportBikeMike 10-03-2008 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by ZBRICK
Makes perfect sence. You know your stuff

Thanks! Just tryin to help snw see the light.

Bleach 10-03-2008 06:50 PM

drill drill drill

KasbeKZ 10-03-2008 06:54 PM

hahahaha! alaskan pipeline!

entropy31 10-04-2008 12:01 AM

throw your vote away! Vote Nader for ZDriver Mod!

snwbrderphat540 10-04-2008 12:35 AM

lol.... RALPH NADER! or... bob bar!!!!



REAGAN SMASH REAGAN SMASH!!! reagan sleepy......



im drunk.

entropy31 10-04-2008 01:18 AM

bleacch/entropy '08!

entropy31 10-04-2008 01:24 AM

we run on the platform of Zquality for all!

hoov100 10-04-2008 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bleach
drill drill drill

puts money in my pocket after the army, i get to start laying pipe again if mccain gets in office as well as a new war!!!:icon_super:

Bleach 10-04-2008 11:16 AM

I'm not for war, but drill! OH wait, war only if its against Canada ;)

hoov100 10-04-2008 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
I'm not for war, but drill! OH wait, war only if its against Canada ;)

I'm not for war either, but hell it gives me something to do. and nearly quadruples my pay.

snwbrderphat540 10-04-2008 02:15 PM

war needs to be used how it was back in the 1940's and prior.


but anyways, i looked at all the voters, and theres alot of no name dudes, but the ****** spam bot voted against you!!!! thats fawkin hilarious!

hoov100 10-04-2008 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
but anyways, i looked at all the voters, and theres alot of no name dudes.

so your saying that the only people who should be allowed to vote are people who hold rank and power? sounds pretty fcked up to me.

snwbrderphat540 10-04-2008 04:22 PM

yes hoov.... thats exactly what i said....


or maybe if you use depth in that thought its more like, they dont even know who you are... so whats their basis?

WildmaN 10-04-2008 04:24 PM

Okay...I will say my view on this. I sat here...and read all of you going at each other with who is better. Obama...bad person..that I would not want to run our country with. One he is a Democrat...that is a big red flag. And if he is a so called Christian like you say. Then he is on the wrong side. The big thing with Democrats. Is they have slowly been trying to take God out of our country and such. Which is absolutely appalling....and goes against what this great country was founded upon. Anyway I was raised Conservative. And will stay that way. And you can't blame Bush for our economy..that is retarded. Our economy like Mike was saying has gone downhill because of Democrats giving away money. That we don't have to give. Then hitting us where it hurts. Anyway I am for McCain..not just because he is conservative & Rebublican. But because he was senator here in Arizona. And did many great things. And he knows alot of things. Much more than Obama knows. Especially with the military experience. Which Obama is purely lacking on. And really knows nothing about. And it is not because Obama is black. It is mainly because of his background. And that he is a Democrat. Not because he is black.

KasbeKZ 10-04-2008 05:03 PM

not everyone wants the country run according to the bible. i'd prefer to have a document that doesn't contradict itself ten billion times to base laws and such off of.

that's the only REAL beef i had with that post

WildmaN 10-04-2008 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
not everyone wants the country run according to the bible. i'd prefer to have a document that doesn't contradict itself ten billion times to base laws and such off of.

that's the only REAL beef i had with that post

No offense man. But where do you think our laws came from? From the original Ten Commandments in the Bible. And our country was founded by God. Or we would not have this great country we are in now. And would not be as free as we are. You think it is tough here. Try living someplace else. And you will find it is not as free there. But I do respect your opinion man. And I will not bash you for it. ;)

KasbeKZ 10-04-2008 05:12 PM

i don't think it's tough. and there is nothing in the constitution that says shal not covet though neighbor or anything. some of the laws just overlapped because they are the basics. and saying that god founded the country.... well that's purely a religious belief, so i can't really debate that.

i'm not bashing either. everyone needs to hear the other side though. we'll vote for different people anyway, but i think it's important to still know what the other people think.

WildmaN 10-04-2008 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
i don't think it's tough. and there is nothing in the constitution that says shal not covet though neighbor or anything. some of the laws just overlapped because they are the basics. and saying that god founded the country.... well that's purely a religious belief, so i can't really debate that.

i'm not bashing either. everyone needs to hear the other side though. we'll vote for different people anyway, but i think it's important to still know what the other people think.

Yeah..I mainly meant about. Thou shalt not kill...Thou shalt not steal for starters. There are a few more. That is really what I was getting at. ;) And I like to hear what other people think also.

snwbrderphat540 10-04-2008 05:24 PM

sounds like basic common sense stuff ^^^ lol


anyways. republicans are big on their aspect of religion, here's the problem, IN God we trust, one nation under God. know why those were put in there, freedom of religion. kinda what this country was made for, escaping religious persecution. so no branch will ever try to remove religion, and there will never be a national religion.

KasbeKZ 10-04-2008 05:28 PM

good point. the government can't take the religious freedom away, that will always be there, no matter how many democrats there are. so what religion do you think they are trying to take out? in a country free of religious persecution, it would suit to not have it run by the bible, because that wouldn't be fair considering that there are people of so many religions here. not all of them go by the bible


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