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08-12-2009, 07:35 PM
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08-12-2009, 08:01 PM
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I don't seem to be able to figure out how to post an asci file of a dyno curve of what I was willing to accept before Hoov shot his mouth off, suffice it to say peak engine hp is approx 4x what claims is his rwhp. Of course now that he's pissed me off(don't EVER call ME a liar) that's history..
08-12-2009, 08:19 PM
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and he dosent seem to be up/able to do a JZ swap in his Z anyway
How much gain is there from doing the AFM swap & which of the 2 would you suggest?
Also, what brand of headers would you use?
As far as engine work goes, I won't be able to do any rebuilding any time soon. So tearing the engine down is a no go. Is there a way to do ITB's without a custom ECU to control then? Also, when you're talking about the KA24 throttle body swap, are you talking about the part that bolts on to the stalks? Is a specific adapter plate required?
Also, what brand of headers would you use?
As far as engine work goes, I won't be able to do any rebuilding any time soon. So tearing the engine down is a no go. Is there a way to do ITB's without a custom ECU to control then? Also, when you're talking about the KA24 throttle body swap, are you talking about the part that bolts on to the stalks? Is a specific adapter plate required?
08-12-2009, 08:39 PM
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He very simply asked bang/buck, and I'm not making any judgements as to what he is/is not up to.
Guess it's up to him, but my response was well within the original question.
edit: I did not suggest a jz swap, if your going to swap, put in something decent... only commented that it would have been nice if datsun had made a block that could match it....
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08-12-2009, 09:37 PM
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I don't seem to be able to figure out how to post an asci file of a dyno curve of what I was willing to accept before Hoov shot his mouth off, suffice it to say peak engine hp is approx 4x what claims is his rwhp. Of course now that he's pissed me off(don't EVER call ME a liar) that's history..
08-12-2009, 09:42 PM
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Ouch!!! 1500!!
Id stick with the the stock FI for now and just live with it. You probably get better results (more fun) on focusing on the suspension of the car.
Honestly, how much knowledge/experience do you have on working on cars. Knowing that should give us an idea of what would be obtainable.
Id stick with the the stock FI for now and just live with it. You probably get better results (more fun) on focusing on the suspension of the car.
Honestly, how much knowledge/experience do you have on working on cars. Knowing that should give us an idea of what would be obtainable.
As far as pulling power out of my Z, I originally wanted to RB swap it, but that's going to be pricey. From what I've seen, good power can be pulled from the L28.
I want to keep it NA and I want to get to about 220hp (Would settle for 200hp with reduced vehicle weight). I'm limited to $200/mo at the most right now for budget too. Throttle response & handling are more important to me than going fast, but I definitely want to be able to take off & break the back end loose if I want to.
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08-12-2009, 09:46 PM
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08-12-2009, 09:46 PM
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And that comment had nothing to do with the topic at hand.
ANYWAYS BACK ON TOPIC. I DON'T CARE WHAT A V8 DOES FOR A Z, NOR A 1JZ/2JZ, OR RB. The OP even mentioned that he doesn't necessarily like turbo cars, and would prefer an NA build up. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't want a V8 in his Z, either...
On the Cressida AFM swap, the biggest thing with that is that you're going to have to swap the circuit boards in the AFM from your car to the one in the Cressida AFM, as stated in this write-up: http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/a...ade/index.html
A KA24 Throttle body (60mm) swap is ONLY going to replace the stock Throttle body (50mm) on the stock intake manifold, whereas the triple webers are three carburetors that have one throat for each cylinder, from 40mm per cylinder to 50mm per cylinder (compared to only the one 60mm that has to feed all six cylinders
) if you do decide to go with the triple Webers, you're going to have to change the fuel pump to a carburetor fuel pump, along with some pretty complex tuning with jets and stuff.
Here's a write-up on a KA24 Throttle body install: http://www.graytechsoftware.com/garage/tbs_linkage.asp
To mount the throttle body that way you're going to need a 1" adaptor, you can buy one, or make it yourself, I personally am making one out of wood for a friend of mine (it's what we had laying around at the time, and wood is easy to work with lol)
As far as a header goes, if your going to take it all apart to do a header swap, you may as well port the intake runners while you're at it, pretty much any header is good, if I had the chance to do it again, I'd buy one that was actually made for a 280ZX instead of a 280Z (BUT IT WAS IN THE JUNKYARD!
) Here's a write-up on a header install (actually just a gasket change, but instead you're taking the stock manifold out and putting a header back on in place ) :https://www.zdriver.com/forums/240z-280zxt-s30-s130-tech-tips-275/how-do-your-intake-exhaust-gasket-18779/
ANYWAYS BACK ON TOPIC. I DON'T CARE WHAT A V8 DOES FOR A Z, NOR A 1JZ/2JZ, OR RB. The OP even mentioned that he doesn't necessarily like turbo cars, and would prefer an NA build up. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't want a V8 in his Z, either...
On the Cressida AFM swap, the biggest thing with that is that you're going to have to swap the circuit boards in the AFM from your car to the one in the Cressida AFM, as stated in this write-up: http://atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/a...ade/index.html
A KA24 Throttle body (60mm) swap is ONLY going to replace the stock Throttle body (50mm) on the stock intake manifold, whereas the triple webers are three carburetors that have one throat for each cylinder, from 40mm per cylinder to 50mm per cylinder (compared to only the one 60mm that has to feed all six cylinders
) if you do decide to go with the triple Webers, you're going to have to change the fuel pump to a carburetor fuel pump, along with some pretty complex tuning with jets and stuff.Here's a write-up on a KA24 Throttle body install: http://www.graytechsoftware.com/garage/tbs_linkage.asp
To mount the throttle body that way you're going to need a 1" adaptor, you can buy one, or make it yourself, I personally am making one out of wood for a friend of mine (it's what we had laying around at the time, and wood is easy to work with lol)
As far as a header goes, if your going to take it all apart to do a header swap, you may as well port the intake runners while you're at it, pretty much any header is good, if I had the chance to do it again, I'd buy one that was actually made for a 280ZX instead of a 280Z (BUT IT WAS IN THE JUNKYARD!
) Here's a write-up on a header install (actually just a gasket change, but instead you're taking the stock manifold out and putting a header back on in place ) :https://www.zdriver.com/forums/240z-280zxt-s30-s130-tech-tips-275/how-do-your-intake-exhaust-gasket-18779/
08-12-2009, 09:58 PM
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08-12-2009, 10:01 PM
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shipping sucks yo
That, and why pay that much for something that'll work just as well for free? (he's gonna paint it so we don't have bare wood in the engine bay though lol) and it'll work as an insulator (even though it doesn't matter on throttle bodies :P )
That, and why pay that much for something that'll work just as well for free? (he's gonna paint it so we don't have bare wood in the engine bay though lol) and it'll work as an insulator (even though it doesn't matter on throttle bodies :P )
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08-12-2009, 10:09 PM
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mine was $43 shipped
lol least get some of that hard plastic **** (blanking on the name)
edit: alum spacer running the 60mm
08-12-2009, 10:10 PM
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Let's make it clear for you retarded, I'll bet 2k$ that I can make a 5 cyl l28 beat the crap out of your chevy for less than 200$. Come on mr smart guy...
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08-12-2009, 10:18 PM
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lol Skib, I'm not the only one to do the wood spacer, there's a guy on hybridz that did it, too. our spacer isn't that thick, but the throttle clears just the same.
And by shipping sucks is that I hate waiting for stuff to come lol
And by shipping sucks is that I hate waiting for stuff to come lol
08-12-2009, 10:19 PM
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lolz Iv seen it
what ever works I guess
08-12-2009, 10:32 PM
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08-12-2009, 10:41 PM
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is it the one on the 29th? at forged?
do tell, what dose otherwise Intel?
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