280zx2by2

That's not steep at all for a 40+ year-old engine and head design.

We are talking about nostalgia builds here, if someone is going to take the time and effort to make parts for an antiquated engine they are going to jack up the prices.

Look at some of those prices and you will see that over all 24k might be a bargain.

http://www.kameariusa.com/L6products.php


EDIT: Even the stuff sold on that site and others will have to be modified to get 400hp reliably.

hoov100

It's funny you all trying to make it sound like you know what you are talking about... (except you Skib.)

skib

do we need to have a Z Driver N/A build off?




scored a job a Nissan today btw, pretty stoked

hoov100

lol, I would just build an sbc and pwn all. I could have a nicely sorted out race car with a built motor on the track driving for less money then some of these guys have in ONE race motor.

skib

Im documenting my build and keeping track of all the $$ spent along the way so Ill know exactly how much is into my motor



ya but its still a chev


I build L's because I like them, not because there the cheapest

I couldnt ever own a V8 Z.










fast

cheap

reliable

you can only pick two

Bleach

L16 pwns all yous!

PurePontiacKid

I think the A14 is pretty badass in it's own right.

hoov100

Unless you know what you are doing and have the proper contacts. Knowing the right people can be the difference between $1000 of machine work and $200.

WildmaN

Sorry....but anybody can go the easy route, and put a V8 in a Z. To me, it loses it's nostalgia, and originality. When bastardized with a common V8, or any other for that matter.

Building an L, would be pretty cool. If I had no spending limit. I would be content, with just a little more than my Z came stock.

280zx2by2

I have never understood this concept...


We are talking about pos 280zx's here for the most part... Any nostalgia that is still there is out weighed by the fact that these cars are over weight and powered by an engine design thats almost 5 decade old.

If we were talking low vin 240z's or 10th anniversaries or ZXR's then yeah keep with the antiquation. But we aren't.

280zx2by2

WildmaN

It's something more about the sound the Z makes. If you take away the original straight 6. You take out it's very insides. Kind of hard to explain. And like I said, anybody can slap a common V8 in a Z. Whoopee, been done a million times. And to me, it gets old. That's okay, I'll keep my V8 where it belongs. In my Firebird.

And I don't care how rare the Z is. Or if it isn't really worth anything. To me, it has nothing to do with bastardizing a Z with a V8. Not my thing. Also there is a thread dedicated to Z people that like to install, and talk about V8s in another thread. Also Hybridz is geared more to that crowd, not here.

BlueKitsune

Exactly!

PurePontiacKid

Any Z is a POS. (just 2+2's moar so).

280zx2by2

Ehh Id rather have a 2+2 than a riced out one where the rear looks like an elephant tried to rape it.

PS: Have you ever made out in the back of a Z?



Nvm... Who are we kidding asking you that question lol

280zx2by2

And that's why HBZ has how much more traffic then Zdriver?



If you take the time and do the swap yourself you will feel just as much of a "connection" to the V8 or whatever you swap in as long as you do it right and are happy with the work.

BlueKitsune

Then why do you drive a Z, dumbshit?


and I dont care much for swapping motors to other motors. Mainly because I like the L engine the most so far. If I had another fav I might consider swapping it but sense I don't I'm gonna try to build a better one!

Whats the harm in doing that? lol

skib

thats true to an extent, Iv got plenty of hook ups threw friends, Baxter auto parts and Nissan and mine will be built far cheaper than most people.


there are some things that you just cant get on the cheap tho

PurePontiacKid

Someone has to do them right.

skib

swaps are rad as long as their done right, Iv seen some sic V8 Z's but there just not for me as far as building one goes

hoov100

Certain parts yes, you can't exactly just call up another person who races a datsun and ask if he has any used forged L28 cranks laying around, or a spare set of 88mm pistons.

BlueKitsune

I just looked though the FSM and it says the sleeves in an L engine are only 4mm thick....(90mm outside diameter) So that would mean if your overbored to 89mm you would have a 1mm thick wall...

And this is common to do!? I think something is amiss here....

skib

89mm is common, thats the bore for a 3.1

theres a few ppl that go to 90mm but thats really pushing it

BlueKitsune

Is an 89mm bore reliable? a 1mm thick cylinder wall is a good bit scary.

SHADY280

im in, already have the motor built and ready and in, 50,000km on it. im gonna put the 1mm back in if were doing this. ill finish the ms and light flywheel. ask nismopick and bleach. theyve seen my car go. and yes bleach i could keep up with a 97 pathfinder v6 with my l16 in a datsun 620!!