gas price
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
#76
This is how you do something about high gas prices...
#1... Don't drive anything that requires fossil fuels.
#2... Don't ride in anything that requires fossil fuels.
#3... Grow your own garden so you're not supporting the grocery stores who pass on the cost of fuel to you.
#4... Don't buy anything that was made by (or has in it) any kind of fossil fuel.
#5... Write to your state senators and tell them to do something (your letter will be added to the pile of unopened letters already sent to them).
#1... Don't drive anything that requires fossil fuels.
#2... Don't ride in anything that requires fossil fuels.
#3... Grow your own garden so you're not supporting the grocery stores who pass on the cost of fuel to you.
#4... Don't buy anything that was made by (or has in it) any kind of fossil fuel.
#5... Write to your state senators and tell them to do something (your letter will be added to the pile of unopened letters already sent to them).
05-15-2008, 08:34 PM
#77
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Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
This country was founded on a revolution against taxes that are only a fraction of what we pay everyday on fuel alone. Do not ever forget that.
Does anyone really think that our military is in a country that just happens to have one of the richest oil producing lands in the world because we want to help them??? Money is power, oil is money...we are oil dependent and greedy so of course we are there for the oil be it directly or through a government our country can set up and or control. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.
Bardabe, suck it up, deal with it...it's that defeatist attitude that lets people think they can do whatever they want to whomever they want. How is voting for someone going to lower the price of gas, they are using the gas problem as nothing more than a tactic in hopes that if they show interest in it you might vote for them. Even if I voted for one of these candidates we have to choose from and they do help with the price of gas what is to say they can do anything else to better the country? I am note voting for someone just because I think they can lower gas prices, they need to prove they can run the country and problem solve for the greater good of the people and not just use the price of gas as a ploy to get into office.
I hope I didn't sound too assholish but I am frustrated on these topics.
05-15-2008, 08:46 PM
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crude oil for some reason isn't all the same. there was a HUGE field discovered in the US i think it was maybe in Colorado? but apparently the middle east oil is different so when it comes to creating it into a fuel its the only one that does it well, also the process of creating the fuel is VERY expensive and importing it from a middle east poor country is cheaper than making your own, Britain is pretty much trying to avoid doing mass oil imports and look at their prices! sure we are getting "shafted" but its really the only way to go to keep them lower than much of the world
05-15-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thxone
Ok so then where is todays revolution against taxes and price gouging?? Todays United States of America is not the same United States from July 4, 1776. This is a greedy government that I believe does not hold the peoples interest before its own. We have oil reserves, we have land that can yield oil...like Alaska...didn't good old Mr. Bush veto using our own oil...yeah that makes sense...let's buy some other countries oil at triple the price when we can use our own oil reserves or drill our own land, come on, I know you all know I am right. But then again there are asses out there that don't want us to kill some poor birds native lands...birds have wings, then can fly away and start over, didn't we do that when we came to this country and stole it? Why should we care about some Yellow Billed Loon in Alaska...no, it's probably better to invade some country under the guise of being helpful.
Does anyone really think that our military is in a country that just happens to have one of the richest oil producing lands in the world because we want to help them??? Money is power, oil is money...we are oil dependent and greedy so of course we are there for the oil be it directly or through a government our country can set up and or control. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.
Bardabe, suck it up, deal with it...it's that defeatist attitude that lets people think they can do whatever they want to whomever they want. How is voting for someone going to lower the price of gas, they are using the gas problem as nothing more than a tactic in hopes that if they show interest in it you might vote for them. Even if I voted for one of these candidates we have to choose from and they do help with the price of gas what is to say they can do anything else to better the country? I am note voting for someone just because I think they can lower gas prices, they need to prove they can run the country and problem solve for the greater good of the people and not just use the price of gas as a ploy to get into office.
I hope I didn't sound too assholish but I am frustrated on these topics.
Does anyone really think that our military is in a country that just happens to have one of the richest oil producing lands in the world because we want to help them??? Money is power, oil is money...we are oil dependent and greedy so of course we are there for the oil be it directly or through a government our country can set up and or control. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.
Bardabe, suck it up, deal with it...it's that defeatist attitude that lets people think they can do whatever they want to whomever they want. How is voting for someone going to lower the price of gas, they are using the gas problem as nothing more than a tactic in hopes that if they show interest in it you might vote for them. Even if I voted for one of these candidates we have to choose from and they do help with the price of gas what is to say they can do anything else to better the country? I am note voting for someone just because I think they can lower gas prices, they need to prove they can run the country and problem solve for the greater good of the people and not just use the price of gas as a ploy to get into office.
I hope I didn't sound too assholish but I am frustrated on these topics.
It will come, remember it wasnt out goverment that caused the revolution. It was the people. Sooner or later the people of todays day and age will revoult as well, we just have to remember how. Our public school systems are desgined to take the fight out of people and create a certain type of middle class mentality. But sooner or later it will happen.
05-15-2008, 08:51 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by thxone
Ok so then where is todays revolution against taxes and price gouging?? Todays United States of America is not the same United States from July 4, 1776. This is a greedy government that I believe does not hold the peoples interest before its own. We have oil reserves, we have land that can yield oil...like Alaska...didn't good old Mr. Bush veto using our own oil...yeah that makes sense...let's buy some other countries oil at triple the price when we can use our own oil reserves or drill our own land, come on, I know you all know I am right. But then again there are asses out there that don't want us to kill some poor birds native lands...birds have wings, then can fly away and start over, didn't we do that when we came to this country and stole it? Why should we care about some Yellow Billed Loon in Alaska...no, it's probably better to invade some country under the guise of being helpful.
Does anyone really think that our military is in a country that just happens to have one of the richest oil producing lands in the world because we want to help them??? Money is power, oil is money...we are oil dependent and greedy so of course we are there for the oil be it directly or through a government our country can set up and or control. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.
Bardabe, suck it up, deal with it...it's that defeatist attitude that lets people think they can do whatever they want to whomever they want. How is voting for someone going to lower the price of gas, they are using the gas problem as nothing more than a tactic in hopes that if they show interest in it you might vote for them. Even if I voted for one of these candidates we have to choose from and they do help with the price of gas what is to say they can do anything else to better the country? I am note voting for someone just because I think they can lower gas prices, they need to prove they can run the country and problem solve for the greater good of the people and not just use the price of gas as a ploy to get into office.
I hope I didn't sound too assholish but I am frustrated on these topics.
Does anyone really think that our military is in a country that just happens to have one of the richest oil producing lands in the world because we want to help them??? Money is power, oil is money...we are oil dependent and greedy so of course we are there for the oil be it directly or through a government our country can set up and or control. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.
Bardabe, suck it up, deal with it...it's that defeatist attitude that lets people think they can do whatever they want to whomever they want. How is voting for someone going to lower the price of gas, they are using the gas problem as nothing more than a tactic in hopes that if they show interest in it you might vote for them. Even if I voted for one of these candidates we have to choose from and they do help with the price of gas what is to say they can do anything else to better the country? I am note voting for someone just because I think they can lower gas prices, they need to prove they can run the country and problem solve for the greater good of the people and not just use the price of gas as a ploy to get into office.
I hope I didn't sound too assholish but I am frustrated on these topics.
It will come, remember it wasnt out goverment that caused the revolution. It was the people. Sooner or later the people of todays day and age will revoult as well, we just have to remember how. Our public school systems are desgined to take the fight out of people and create a certain type of middle class mentality. But sooner or later it will happen.
05-15-2008, 08:54 PM
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Oh no no, the government has made laws that makes it illegal to band together and revolt...and lets not forget what they put into the military "Against Foreign AND Domestic" so if we stand up we get killed.
05-16-2008, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
It will come, remember it wasnt out goverment that caused the revolution. It was the people. Sooner or later the people of todays day and age will revoult as well, we just have to remember how. Our public school systems are desgined to take the fight out of people and create a certain type of middle class mentality. But sooner or later it will happen.
05-16-2008, 09:45 AM
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RightO Zhag, did anyone notice that when people started saying stuff about the price of gas that the government decided that they would do the stimulus check crap to "Help stimulate the economy" Did anyone notice that the day before the checks started hitting the the banks via direct deposit the price of gas rose 9 cents per gallon and has continued to rise as these checks are being mailed and deposited? So lets say that you got $300 mailed to you, your tank is on empty so you fill up your ZX at the cost of $75 now you have $225 but wait you still need to fill up your wifes vehicle at the cost of $75, now you have $150...crap we need food for the kids dear...now you are broke...well at least you can get to work for another week and make money to buy more gas.
The stimulus is just a pacifier and nothing more and how much of that is going right back for sales tax, state tax, breathing air tax, blue sky tax, energy tax and gas tax to the government? So what, the stimulus bought you a week or so of a little less stress...as soon as you spend it you're right back where you were only now the price of gas is even higher.
The stimulus is just a pacifier and nothing more and how much of that is going right back for sales tax, state tax, breathing air tax, blue sky tax, energy tax and gas tax to the government? So what, the stimulus bought you a week or so of a little less stress...as soon as you spend it you're right back where you were only now the price of gas is even higher.
05-26-2008, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tonsoffun300zx
im paying almost 5 per gal of premium but i don't give a f@#$ i only drive 2 miles to work and 6 back(when i visit the 240z)
i know this thread is getting old but damn **** don't change huh? i'm paying $4.20 a gallon for regular at this point my z has put put on a hault and only gets run once in a while to keep her lubed up. This gas crap is bullshit, don't they realize we all have bills to pay and jacking up gas prices we al spend less. i mean come on my apartment cost me $1260 a month my utilities are $120 a month i make $9 an hour how much does that leave me for food its 10 miles to work 10 miles back than 20 miles to school and 20 back every day ow the hell do they expect us to live like this!!!!! increase our wages!!!!!!! oh and did i mention i dont' live with mom and dad any more. i'm 19 and on my own!
05-26-2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flightforlife07
i know this thread is getting old but damn **** don't change huh? i'm paying $4.20 a gallon for regular at this point my z has put put on a hault and only gets run once in a while to keep her lubed up. This gas crap is bullshit, don't they realize we all have bills to pay and jacking up gas prices we al spend less. i mean come on my apartment cost me $1260 a month my utilities are $120 a month i make $9 an hour how much does that leave me for food its 10 miles to work 10 miles back than 20 miles to school and 20 back every day ow the hell do they expect us to live like this!!!!! increase our wages!!!!!!! oh and did i mention i dont' live with mom and dad any more. i'm 19 and on my own!
05-26-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
crude oil for some reason isn't all the same. there was a HUGE field discovered in the US i think it was maybe in Colorado? but apparently the middle east oil is different so when it comes to creating it into a fuel its the only one that does it well, also the process of creating the fuel is VERY expensive and importing it from a middle east poor country is cheaper than making your own, Britain is pretty much trying to avoid doing mass oil imports and look at their prices! sure we are getting "shafted" but its really the only way to go to keep them lower than much of the world
us of a chooses to horde itz supplies and use other sources. hotflash---the world is not in our control, dood---and your brane is not in your control.......sift your knowledge. be smart.my knowledge is based on very accurate data.
this country is fawked. and we continue to horde our crude......
05-27-2008, 02:08 AM
#90
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Pretty much what zhag says. Crude oil is crude oil. I am sure there will be more money put into collecting the crude in different areas. Then you have to jump through the green peace hoops. Why do they care about finding more oil when what they have is making them more, and more money? That would cost more money to build rigs to get the oil then it does to raise the price of the current crude at tap.
Gas prices will go up as long as we put up with it. As Americans used to low gas prices. We are not just putting up with it. It's a part of our life, and it is a necessity. We rely on gas to just make it to work. Most of us don't own motorcycles. (I do.
) So we deal with 20mpg.
Gas prices will go up as long as we put up with it. As Americans used to low gas prices. We are not just putting up with it. It's a part of our life, and it is a necessity. We rely on gas to just make it to work. Most of us don't own motorcycles. (I do.
) So we deal with 20mpg.
05-27-2008, 10:40 AM
#91
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Build electric cars!!!
Get over your 5 passenger SUVs. You don't need that to drive by yourself on a paved freeway.
...but, if you're already rich then gas prices don't bother you too much. Its still less than 1% of your annual income.
Get over your 5 passenger SUVs. You don't need that to drive by yourself on a paved freeway.
...but, if you're already rich then gas prices don't bother you too much. Its still less than 1% of your annual income.
05-27-2008, 11:25 AM
#92
Originally Posted by Bleach
You don't need that to drive by yourself on a paved freeway.
05-27-2008, 04:03 PM
#93
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Originally Posted by z-hag
sorry--whoever taught you that is a great believer in balderdash, my young impressionable friend. rude is crude is crude.
us of a chooses to horde itz supplies and use other sources. hotflash---the world is not in our control, dood---and your brane is not in your control.......sift your knowledge. be smart.my knowledge is based on very accurate data.
this country is fawked. and we continue to horde our crude......
us of a chooses to horde itz supplies and use other sources. hotflash---the world is not in our control, dood---and your brane is not in your control.......sift your knowledge. be smart.my knowledge is based on very accurate data.
this country is fawked. and we continue to horde our crude......
05-27-2008, 05:26 PM
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Ummm....Snw....are you feeling ok? Look, you know what you know, nobody else knows what is in your head so if they say something that you know is incorrect...don't let it upset you...it's like if someone calls my mom a *****...I know she is not so it wasn't worth getting mad about. Goosfrabraaaaa! Breath in through the nose and out of the mouth.
Brush your teeth first.
Brush your teeth first.
05-27-2008, 05:29 PM
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Here's the truth about oil.
-No matter what, we will pay for it, and oil companies know that. In the past WEEK, Gas rose $.15 for no reason. Its a freaking scam.
-US is against monopolies...but who says gas isn't one?
-We have had the technology to make our cars run extremely efficiently...Look in the library of congress for patents..
- Gas in the NE is now an average of $3.94 a gallon.
- The largest oil pocket in the western hemisphere was found in the united states, covering the area of montana and 3 other states..
HYPER MILEAGE!
1. Coast over everything you can (use hills to gain speed, switch into neutral and coast)
2. Drive with the windows up
3. Tire pressure is key and clean air filters
4. Don't accelerate or brake quickly.
-No matter what, we will pay for it, and oil companies know that. In the past WEEK, Gas rose $.15 for no reason. Its a freaking scam.
-US is against monopolies...but who says gas isn't one?
-We have had the technology to make our cars run extremely efficiently...Look in the library of congress for patents..
- Gas in the NE is now an average of $3.94 a gallon.
- The largest oil pocket in the western hemisphere was found in the united states, covering the area of montana and 3 other states..
HYPER MILEAGE!
1. Coast over everything you can (use hills to gain speed, switch into neutral and coast)
2. Drive with the windows up
3. Tire pressure is key and clean air filters
4. Don't accelerate or brake quickly.
05-27-2008, 05:45 PM
#96
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ok, sweetie, of nearly 60 years of my life i have gone to schooland colleges for more than half ---i have studied from the top engineers and top everythings i could learn from becvause i love learning---i know whjat is in your scholbooks because i have a 35 yr old son,. they were pprogramming lies and corruption then and they are now as well. do not worry---some of my closest relatives were in on the scheme, being politicians and military and petroleum conglomerate hotshots-----no big deal, snowie---if you want to believe that all you learn is dogs honest truth, go for it---have a psychiatrist handy because reality shock is a goood one----watched it happen a lot, my little friend.......take care, now-----oh, yes--my grandfather invented the atomic canon and met with tesla and is mentioned in tesla's bio as "a young american engineer...."..yada...etc.(is only one of many in my family---done started most of what you know as your world...)... and you should really know more about folks before you decide they do not know as much as you on some topic or another, sweetie----just because i have no degree does not mean i do not know the topic very very well----many many topics are that way, snowy---go figger.......i DO know it all........many facets of it all.....and NOT from books........or teachers.....
oh, yes, and definitely do what mikey sez, ok---he haz smarts....mikeys always know..............
oh, yes, and definitely do what mikey sez, ok---he haz smarts....mikeys always know..............
Last edited by z-hag; 05-27-2008 at 05:55 PM.
05-28-2008, 12:50 PM
#99
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My quandry is my 350Z, like Bleach's, gets close to 30 MPG on the highway and the bike gets in the 30s or maybe 40s....yet they both require premium. My truck only requires 87 but sucks gas so bad you can literally see the needle move down as you cruise down the highway. What to do?
Oh well.....
Oh well.....
