pearly whites

z racing tips anyone? i got a problem with losing traction on the back wheels, usually when i hit second gear and the "twin turbos....kick....in...". what are optimal shift points?

emo236

Check out this link:
http://twinturbo.net/ttnetfaq/FAQpages/shiftpoints.html
A few other things that you can do is remove the sway bar when you race so it gives the chassis more freedom to twist. Or get slicks.

Riz Z Speed

Experiencing wheel hop? Eliminating or bracing the rear subframe bushings might help you. Solid aluminum bushings or collars to brace the bushings are available to help reduce that wheel hop and loss of traction.
Is the loss of traction in a straight line or around a corner? Certain alignment changes can help/hinder that.
Have you tried stickier tires? Tires are what connect your car with the ground. Braking and Acceleration are all dependant on your tires. A change there might greatly improve both for you.

emo236

ok, what kind of racing are you talking about? I assumed drag because you said that you were losing traction, but I guess it could be another type. It's hard to give advice without that advice. So, what kind of racing?

pearly whites

yes, drag of course ...

does the z stand a chance against a z06 vette?? assuming the wheels keep traction :-x

emo236

how modded? My buddies stage 4+ beat one pretty nicely. But he's also a great driver and had slicks and his sway bar taken out and his car dyno tuned before hand.

Z_WRECKER

how hard is it to replace the subframe bushings??? i get some wheel hop, it's annoying as hell

NISMO LMR

Wait did you say you were getting wheel hop? That doesnt typically happen with coil suspension does it? Mostly with leaf spring right? Traction bars corrected most of the leaf springs faults. But would slicks fit under those wheels wells, im sure some are made, but all the cars i've seen with slicks are tubbed to sh*t. Peace foo's

Riz Z Speed

It's moderately difficult to replace the subframe bushings. Having the car up in the air long enough is part of it. Lowering half the entire subframe at a time is the other part. You'll have to press/cut the old bushings out to get the new ones with or w/o spacers in.

Wheel hop is present in the Z because of there being a subrame. The rear suspension isn't technically attached to the car. Everything is attached to the subframe, then the car, with the exception of the shocks which attach to the lower a-arm and the body. But since the shock moves independently of everything else it doesn't really help stabilize anything now does it. That's no the shocks job. But back to the point, the wheels hop because the subframe bushings also help to move the entire subframe by giving and moving in place. The wheels are then allowed to move in which ever direction they so choose which includes up. Limit this movement of the entire subframe and you'll limit the upward option for the tires. So now they can either go forward or sideways.
If you wanna limit the sideways movement, a better limited slip should correct that. Stickier tires always improve the situation.
Oh, once again the reason you don't see huge 3ft wide Mickeys under a Z32 is because it wasn't meant to be dragged in the first place. BF Goodrich does make D.O.T. approved drag radials in various sizes if that's what you're looking to do with your Z or other car.

Z_WRECKER

so i should just cut them??? hmmmm...i guess when i thikn about it, that little bit of wheel hop is really not that annoying you can barely feel it, i might change it down the road

91zxtt

The down side with solid subframe bushings is the loss of ride quality. The stock bushings allow the subframe to 'float' separate from the rest of the car. The subframe will move approximately 1" before the suspension of the car begins to work. That's why you get wheel hop. If you install solid bushings, the ride becomes much more harsh and the road noise will be much greater in the cabin. You'll hear and feel everything on the road.

There are no leaf springs in a Z32, so a traction bar isn't an option. Don't waste your time reaseraching this.

Another option is subframe spacers. Check out www.specialtyz.com. I bought them, but haven't installed them yet, so at this point I only know what I have read. The subframe spacers are designed to pre-load the subframe bushings so that the rear-end doesn't 'float' anymore. The benefit to these is they reduce wheel hop, but don't sacrifice ride quality. The rubber bushings are still there to help absorb the road noise. They are supposed to be easy to install. They run $60. IMHO, these spacers are a better option since you probably spend more time on the road than on the dragstrip.

Z_WRECKER

thanx 91...good info good to have you back man...we haven't seen you in a few past days

pearly whites

what have you guys raced against and beat? nothing around my way even can stand up to the z, so i dont really have any tales to tell....

emo236

The same's for me. I haven't lost yet. The closest race was with an Audi S4. There was traffic so we didn't get to wrap out our cars but it kept up on the short bursts on the highway. But when we had a little longer stretch, I started to pull.

pearly whites

this one guy ruond my way bout a tt supra round the same time i got my z and before i could find him rollin round town in it i heard that he trashed it racing someone.... ugh,,,,,

emo236

that would of beeen a fun race.

91zxtt

Typical Supra owner. Has lots of power, but doesn't know how to use it.

emo236

pearly....are you asking for advice on street racing or strip racing? They can be pretty different (i.e. you'll want strut bars on the street, you'll want STREET tires-not slicks-on the street).

pearly whites

street

emo236

in that case, I only have one suggestion. This might burn out your clutch quicker, but let the clutch out as opposed to popping it out, let it out slowly and let it catch traction as you let it out.

pearly whites

i thinks thats what im gonna go with. shouldnt hurt the cclutch that much since i only find a quick race once in a blue moon as the saying goes.