TeamRonin

Whats the effect, if any, of tire/wheel spacers on a 88T? Ive been thinking of slapping some on about a 20mm spacer to pop out my wheels a little more so I may go with a wider tire in the rear and front, and to maintain a more positive feel on the asphalt. I was gonna purchase them from TunersDepot but i wanna check with my fellow z car experts to confirm or bust the idea. My belief is will it not bring a whole lot of stress onto the hub and axle if i were to install them?

260zturbo

it wont be a whole lot of stress but what size rim/tire u running. I just got 17x9 +25 and im wondering if i wanna do 15 or 20. I read all of zbum charts but still a little shaddy. But 20mm i would highly suggest longer studs

TeamRonin

oh yea for sure! Has to have longer studs for it to work. But the question is if im doing a lot of street racing, do ya think it would damage my hub and axles from the extension? I would like to extend them out for a better appearance, wider stance on suspension, and wider wheels.

260zturbo

always a chance of damaging things when you start to push things to its limits. But they do have guys over on 88hybrid and z31performance that are running spacers with no problems.

TeamRonin

do you know what size? whats the title of the thread starter?

260zturbo

http://www.az-zbum.com/information.w...nd.tires.shtml

TeamRonin

its a little confusing. How am i gonna find what my original offset is? Am just gonna need to find out first what rims and tires i would be using first? thanks for all the info so far 260zturbo!

260zturbo

yea gotta find out what rim size you want use the chart to figure if or what size type of spacer you need. OR you can just buy them rims you want and mount them on the z and just measure how much further you want >_<

reddzx

There's a big difference between "spacers" and adapters. Spacers require longer studs and are questionable for hard applications. Adapters on the other hand are safer and more stable and more expensive.

260zturbo

How are adapters more safer if i may ask when your going to run a thin spacer with longer studs?

TeamRonin

yea i would like to know the same. also how would ya mount an adapter? And what website can i go to check one out?

260zturbo

adapter just a thick spacer that bolts to your existing hub while the other side has studs that bolt to rim

http://www.wheeladapter.com/


Gotta worry about 10 nuts on one rim >_< I just remember being told on adapters its a good idea to frequently take off the rims and re-torque the inner nuts to make sure things are all go....I could be wrong but i guess thats a peace of mind

TeamRonin

I had a funny feeling about ya response. Thats what i thought it was. so what is the actual difference between a spacer and a adapter. its the same thing is it not?

reddzx

The adapters, if you get good one's, are hubcentric; centered on the hub. Spacers are not centered; slotted holes with a loose fit. I wouldn't use spacers over 10mm thick unless they were drilled for a balanced centered fit. Longer studs are ok if you use quality studs. I have been using 1" hubcentric adapters on my 87T with Z33 17" for over a year. Anyone with half a brain would make sure the adapters were torqued on before using.

I bought quality adapters at http://www.performancewheel.com/****...egory=6&gacid=


Quote from this site:

"Slip on wheel spacers are safe, as long as you limit them to 1/4" or less. As the wheel is moved further out, the bending load on the wheel stud increases. We don't recommend using slip-on wheel spacers greater than 1/4" thick. New heavy duty studs are recommended as well. Slip on wheel spacers are not the same as bolt-on wheel spacers or adapters. Will my studs break if I use bolt on wheel spacers or adapters? No, the loads on the studs are identical to just bolting on wheels if the centerline is the same. Slip-on spacers will increase stud loads".

TeamRonin

thats a GREAT website Redd!!! I will definitely will be placing a purchase here in the near future on some adapters.

z31rider

I can personally tell you that either way you go, your gonna have a bit of unbalance. Your wheel will shake. It always does. I know they make some pretty good stuff but i guarantee you'll get the shakes like a slightly "out of balance" wheel. Just so ya know... Coming from personal experience. I still have adapters on my car, i just feel safer. Iv heard plenty of horror stories with spacers.

TeamRonin

Thats good to know and be cautious at the sametime. thanks.

reddzx

You must have been using cheap **** then. Mine are Hubcentric meaning they are machined to fit dead center on the hub. with the wheel installed and balanced together, I have been at 90-100 mph many times and experienced NO unbalance. That's way I was willing to pay more that most cheap adapter site's charge. The "one size fits all" adapters will do that.

There is however no perfect subsitute for using wheels with the correct offset.

Bleach

I had adapters on a Z that fits great and balanced perfect.

http://www.technotoytuning.com/productdetail.php?p=705

$180 for a set.

TeamRonin

Hey Reddzx, ya got those hubcentric adapters from the website ya posted earlier right? I wanna make sure i get what i pay for and what works the best.

reddzx

Yes, that's where I got them. I paid the higher price for them so I wouldn't have "cheap adapter balance issues".