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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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positive ground?

Is my 83 280zx NA supposed to be positive ground? I ask because connecting a multimeter with red lead to red battery cable, black lead to black cable results in a reading of -14 volts, while red-to-black, black-to-red, gives a reading of +14 volts. ALSO, my timing light has to be hooked up in the same "backwards" way in order to function.

Is there something weird going on here? The FSM says on page EL-25 that ground polarity is negative. Everything runs fine.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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The 280zx is negative ground.... 99.9999999999999999999999% of all cars are negative ground. Follow the negative battery terminal & the wires will lead to body or engine grounds. Sometimes people don't pay attention and use red for battery ground, and black for positive.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Thanks, that makes sense. I'm sure that's what's going on here, I'll trace the wires when I get home. For some reason I got it into my head that red HAD to mean the non-ground connection...

The timing was set at about 24 degrees BTDC @700 rpm(!). Is there any reason the PO's mechanic would have done that? It didn't seem to ping, but it seems a lot more "normal" sounding now that I set it to about 10 degrees.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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24* is extreme for the n/a. Maybe the mechanic was thinking it was turbocharged (stock turbo timing is 21*-24*). Shady runs his n/a at about 15* if I remember correctly. And he's got some wild modifications to go along with it.

Did you disconnect the vac advance when adjusting the timing?
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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Yep, I disconnected the vacuum advance. That was the only thing I could think of too, was that he looked up the turbo timing spec.

Thanks for the help, I have to get around to putting up an intro post. This has been a great car and a great board for learning the ropes...
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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your neg. 14 is cause the leads are switched at the box. lol maybe, or you have a cheap meter. unless some genius has rewired it like a freightliner of the 70's. ive had mine up to 20 deg for track days, and yeah bout 15 for the street. right now im trying to conserve gas money for the racecar and new 2 bay shop, so its at 11/12ish.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
The 280zx is negative ground.... 99.9999999999999999999999% of all cars are negative ground.
i don't know about that number. i remember setting up more than one positive ground car at the british car shop i worked at. those weird *** brits....

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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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they dont count, freightliner also tried the postive chassis as well. abvously it didnt work out too well.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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lol i don't know what frieghtliner is.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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freightliner... so you're saying optimus prime is positive ground??

Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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you dont know what frieghtliner is? lol its like in the top 5 semi truck companies with international, mack, volvo, and peterbuilt.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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nope. never noticed one. i see those 4 a lot though.
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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you must be joking.... UGH... start looking at semi's you'll feel stupid at how many you see. lol
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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if i started looking at semis when there was cool cars around, i'd feel even more stupid than i would for not knowing about frieght liners....
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
if i started looking at semis when there was cool cars around, i'd feel even more stupid than i would for not knowing about frieght liners....

Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:39 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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lol steal..... damn thats funny


also, joy ride has super sexy paul walker in it and it wasnt a scary movie, was ok to watch. and truckers smell
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
lol steal..... damn thats funny


also, joy ride has super sexy paul walker in it and it wasnt a scary movie, was ok to watch. and truckers smell
I'll just leave that one alone..lol
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