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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Angry Not a good feeling about this...

I'm starting a new thread of my previous MT thread because that one got too lengthy.

So, I finally removed the drain cap from the '82 MT and guess what....the pictures speak for themselves.

All those pieces of metal were stuck on top of the drain cap (well, they were all muddy with that old transmission fluid).

Am I correct to believe that this MT is foobar? I stuck my finger in the drainage opening and I was able to pull another piece of metal, so I'm guessing it's a no-go with this MT?

What are your thoughts?
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Crucial . . . .thats my thought on the situation. . . .****en crucial
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Ugh, so close and now this....

So, anyone's got a working MT willing to sell?

I wonder how feasible it is to repair it. Will it be cheaper just to rebuild it or should I just get a used working MT?
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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well... for an old *** tranny the drain plug looks normal if they were the type of person to not drain there tranny oil and change it... youll always have dust collected like that in trannies. it is a rather large amount butt those solid pieces... ditto on the crucial. you can always try it though. yah never know
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by n00blar
I wonder how feasible it is to repair it. Will it be cheaper just to rebuild it or should I just get a used working MT?
Any suggestion on this?
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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One or more of the bearings is toasted. Yes you can have someone go through it and replace the bearings or try and find another jy tranny and get the same thing. You can also take on the job yourself.
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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those are parts from one of the main bearings, it could suggest major wear on the other parts as well. its rebuildable, but basically pooched for a directed drop in.
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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A bearing / synchro rebuild kit for the 280zx is about $150 - $170... then you can install it yourself for free, or prolly $300 - $500 for a tranny shop to do it.
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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I've been through all of this. You'll never get all the new parts you need for anywhere near NismoPicks estimate. Some of them you won't be able to find at all. It's not feasible to rebuild. Find a used one and swap it in.


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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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You'll never get all the new parts you need for anywhere near NismoPicks estimate. Some of them you won't be able to find at all. It's not feasible to rebuild. Find a used one and swap it in.
I guess all the tranny rebuild kits have been discontinued recently? I got one a couple years ago from a bearing supplier here in SLC. It was $139... had a Nissan mechanic buddy do the rebuild "after hours" for $100. Then I swapped in the L28ET and toasted the synchro's in about 500 miles.
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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... got a '79 L28 & MT that's up for dibs, buy engine & tranny together, best offer, be in mind that it's in MS & you'd have to cover S&H
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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the 79 even has close ratios and is great for racing and auto x type tracks. the bearings i got each part seperate from nissan, it wasnt cheap for syncros, like 350 for the set. and bearings are 20 a piece. you need special tools to get them pressed on bearings off. to put them on all you need is ice and a old toaster.
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Yeah, when my tranny blew up last year I tried to find rebuild parts but it wasn't happening for any kind of reasonable price and some parts just flat out didn't seem to exist anymore. I swapped in a VERY low mileage tranny from a '79. I like it, but I wish it had longer freeway legs. The difference from my '80 tranny and the '79 tranny at 70MPH was VERY noticeable. From stop light to stop light though


Best thing to do is find a decent used tranny and just swap them. It's easy to do and pretty cheap compared to the alternatives.


By the way... Sorry NismoPick if it sounded like I was trashing your post... You always have awesome info, but I had recent and personal experience with this whole tranny thing Sorry.



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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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i got 3 trannys, but i keep them for situations just like this, plus i have a complete rebuild sitting in stock just in case. the 78/79 tranny that i have has steel shift forks too, compared with the usual aluminum ones. i cant even find steel ones anywhere, nissan has no record of them. ive already broke one alumnum one doing a 1-2 power shift. (tranny was weak anyhoo)
Old Feb 17, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Ditto on the bearing, easy as pie to change(2hours), and standard size so any bearing shop will do, and cheaper than nissan ( mine runs SKF now )
The synchros might be toast but you cant tell from just that, open it up and see, if they are bad change them MSA carries those parts as far as i know .
if you do this you will KNOW you have a good MT
Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RodMoyes
Best thing to do is find a decent used tranny and just swap them. It's easy to do and pretty cheap compared to the alternatives.
Rod.
I was thinking of that, but I think that's the part that will be more challenging..finding one in my state. I'm sure I can find one out of state, but with s&h that will be pretty expensive.

However, I found these guys and maybe this is what I'll do if I can't find a MT..
repair kit from these guys

These guys seem to have a kit for it, so I'll try these guys on Monday and I will keep my fingers cross for a MT near where I live.
Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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i actually shipped a full manual tranny setub (brake/cluth assembly, T5 tranny, master cylinder slave cylinder etc.) from chicago to phoenix for only 40 something dollars. plus the 20 dollar tub container thing i bought. went threw DHL
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Ok, here's something I'm wondering about.

1. Can a Nissan T-5 Borg-Warner MT be installed in a non-turbo engine?

2. Can a Chevy T-5 Borg-Warner MT be installed on '82 Nissan?


I'm still looking for some options since my MT is all busted. Another option I'm looking at is rebuilding this, but I feel that stronger tranny will justify my new engine.

Any thoughts?
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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chevy cannot... difffernt spindle and bell housing. the datsun T-5 can go onto any datsun Z motor. same block... sooo why would it be differnet... the only difference is the cross member and drivshaft.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Hmm, my options just got very limit...since I can't find a T-5 as a replacement.

My only other option is to rebuild what I have, but I think I'm going to throw money on an inferior transmission though.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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How much do you want to spend?

You can have your Nissan T5 and a WC T5 from a Mustang siamesed for about $2300...
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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Cool

Originally Posted by lww
How much do you want to spend?

You can have your Nissan T5 and a WC T5 from a Mustang siamesed for about $2300...
Oh dang, that's just over my budget by a buck!
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Ok, I found a T-5 Borg-Warner tranny, but it's got no bell housing.

Anyone's got one layong around that would sell it?
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Ok, first off don't buy a used tranny. I went through 4 trannies before I got one that was recently rebuilt. Playing roulet with transmissions is a quick way to blow a lot of cash. The T-5 swap is fairly simple but you'll need the crossmember, driveshaft and differential pinion flange from the donor car to make it fit properly.
If you decide to rebuild, pull your bell housing and check the ends of the shafts where the main and countershaft bearings ride, I had a countershaft that was soo worn on the end you couldn't press another bearing to it. If it all looks well aside from the bearings that are coming apart due to the keeps that are stuck to the drain plug breaking apart then get the rebuild kit from the site mentioned above.
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Yeah, the more I think about getting a used T5 tranny the more doubts I get.

My other option is to rebuild/fix the MT I have and just go with that.



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