CF GF hoods for s130 !! who is in !!
07-27-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by frank280zx
well there are enough guys of other forums i guess .. however when you have seen the product you can just order trough him !!
if you have enough build a hood and we will have a look at it...
thanks
07-28-2006, 12:32 AM
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I'm stupid I guess, but I just don't see spending that kind of cash to save a few pounds of weight. Maybe if something "out-of-the-ordinary" came of it, it would be different, but my cash can be spent in different areas. I'm a poor boy!! 
07-28-2006, 08:53 AM
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It's not so much the weight savings, but the repairability and reproduceability of a fiberglass product. They're easy to repair and easy to re-produce once you have the molds.
Reproducing a steel hood requires significant machinery, large stamping dies and a welder.
Reproducing a steel hood requires significant machinery, large stamping dies and a welder.
08-02-2006, 08:51 PM
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Im a rather lazy reader when it comes to long posts but from what I gathered these hoods wouldn't be actual carbon fiber? Am I getting that right, that the hood would only be fiber glass with carbon fiber laid over it just for the look?
08-02-2006, 09:12 PM
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That is very typical of 'consumer' grade CF products of this size.
It's EXTREMELY rare to see a hood or some other large surface area component entirely made of carbon fiber.
It can be done, but it's much more expensive and time consuming as the laying of 'layers' of carbon fiber is much more time consuming than fiberglass layers.
It's EXTREMELY rare to see a hood or some other large surface area component entirely made of carbon fiber.
It can be done, but it's much more expensive and time consuming as the laying of 'layers' of carbon fiber is much more time consuming than fiberglass layers.
08-02-2006, 09:32 PM
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if it were done right only 3 or so layers of carbon would even be needed (2 if you're feeling randy). The trick is in the core material. Fiberglass is usually used as a core cause it's cheaper and easier to work with then the alternatives. Carbon itself can be used as a core but thats REALLY expensive and it really starts to negate the weight advantage once you start building up enough layers. The best way is to use a core material like a honeycomb. Nomex honeycomb is best in this sort of application as it comes in various thickness' and cell sizes. A carbon/nomex hood would be superior to a pure carbon hood in both weight and stiffnes. Aluminum honeycomb is used a lot but not so much in hoods. Flat panels can benefit from aluminum honeycomb (what they use in F1 usually). Foam also makes a great core material.
But be warned: A fiberglass hood with a layer of carbon for cosmetic reasons is NOT the same as a carbon hood using a fiberglass core. In former you get the weight and strength of a fiberglass hood. The latter is far superior to the former and maybe only a few ounces more then a purely carbon hood.
Just a little info
and you nailed it l-dub, I'd rather lay fiberglass then carbon any day of the week. Sure the carbon is more rewarding but getting that stuff to conform compared to fiberglass is a B!#CH
But be warned: A fiberglass hood with a layer of carbon for cosmetic reasons is NOT the same as a carbon hood using a fiberglass core. In former you get the weight and strength of a fiberglass hood. The latter is far superior to the former and maybe only a few ounces more then a purely carbon hood.
Just a little info
and you nailed it l-dub, I'd rather lay fiberglass then carbon any day of the week. Sure the carbon is more rewarding but getting that stuff to conform compared to fiberglass is a B!#CH
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08-04-2006, 11:25 AM
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Too expensive just for a hood IMO, if I were going for hawt looks then I'd be in but, . . . it's a Z after all, I could spend $600 on a hood but that wouldn't change the fact that my cowl panel and rockers are still rusted nor would it chagne the fact that stock hondas beat me.
08-04-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HybridS130
nor would it chagne the fact that stock hondas beat me.
Rod.
08-04-2006, 09:15 PM
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Ummm... Yeah... Stock Civic's (non-SI) and Accord's (non-V6) should not beat a 280ZX from stop light to stop light unless you've got other driveline problems with your car.
What's the mileage on your engine? When's the last time you had a tune-up?
What's the mileage on your engine? When's the last time you had a tune-up?
08-07-2006, 09:50 AM
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j is right, doing a full cf hood, means choosing the correct core for stability, if that core isnt right, it means a floppy hood, and yeah j i know what you mean aboot getting it to lay right, all within its working time too. so now that your moved j, you gonna be making parts?
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