Crazy Mazdaspeed 3 guys LOL
07-03-2007, 10:20 AM
#26
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Then again, I'm happier driving my 180hp turbo Z than a Mazda wagon with any amount of hp.
I wouldn't even settle for a G35 even though a small back seat would be convenient at times. I'll just stick to getting a real Z.
I wouldn't even settle for a G35 even though a small back seat would be convenient at times. I'll just stick to getting a real Z.
07-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Driven
I would say maybe to 60mph... 400lbs is a steep handicap, regardless of AWD or not.
the M6 should net 2.0 in the 60s without much effort, while the M3 should be able to put down 2.2s with some finesse....
but, after the launch, the 11hp isn't enough maintain a lead for a 1/4mi to overcome the extra 400lbs. they say for every 100lbs it's worth 10hp in a 1/4... if that's the case, the M3 has a 30hp advantage.
the M6 should net 2.0 in the 60s without much effort, while the M3 should be able to put down 2.2s with some finesse....
but, after the launch, the 11hp isn't enough maintain a lead for a 1/4mi to overcome the extra 400lbs. they say for every 100lbs it's worth 10hp in a 1/4... if that's the case, the M3 has a 30hp advantage.
I'll take the 30HP disadvantage and AWD. My Z only puts down 251 whp, but I have no problems spinning in second. I'd imagine the same HP in a fwd car will probably spin through third. You're not going to have any spinning in the MS6.
07-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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regardless of your preference... the M3 is no slouch and would catch a Z with it's pants down if the Z driver doesn't pay attention.
FWD isn't as bad as people make it out to be:
Autocross results
a fwd street car beat out the fastest rwd street car. Two FWD cars (8th and 10th) beat out plenty of much faster (in a straight line) cars. One of the FWD cars is on DOT street tires.
Nellis autocross
hell, I had the fastest vehicle with fenders, with 2seconds between me and 6th.
my point is... if properly set up, a FWD can be very potent. never underestimate.
FWD isn't as bad as people make it out to be:
Autocross results
a fwd street car beat out the fastest rwd street car. Two FWD cars (8th and 10th) beat out plenty of much faster (in a straight line) cars. One of the FWD cars is on DOT street tires.
Nellis autocross
hell, I had the fastest vehicle with fenders, with 2seconds between me and 6th.
my point is... if properly set up, a FWD can be very potent. never underestimate.
07-05-2007, 06:28 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by Driven
regardless of your preference... the M3 is no slouch and would catch a Z with it's pants down if the Z driver doesn't pay attention.
FWD isn't as bad as people make it out to be:
Autocross results
a fwd street car beat out the fastest rwd street car. Two FWD cars (8th and 10th) beat out plenty of much faster (in a straight line) cars. One of the FWD cars is on DOT street tires.
Nellis autocross
hell, I had the fastest vehicle with fenders, with 2seconds between me and 6th.
my point is... if properly set up, a FWD can be very potent. never underestimate.
FWD isn't as bad as people make it out to be:
Autocross results
a fwd street car beat out the fastest rwd street car. Two FWD cars (8th and 10th) beat out plenty of much faster (in a straight line) cars. One of the FWD cars is on DOT street tires.
Nellis autocross
hell, I had the fastest vehicle with fenders, with 2seconds between me and 6th.
my point is... if properly set up, a FWD can be very potent. never underestimate.
I'm just sayin'
Rod.
07-05-2007, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RodMoyes
Let's also not forget that a Hyundai Tiburon not only turned in the best ever skidpad performance for a front wheel drive car, but it also outperformed the last generation Corvette Z06 on the skidpad as well...
I'm just sayin'
Rod.
I'm just sayin'
Rod.
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