EFI or Carbs, that is the question.
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EFI or Carbs, that is the question.
I have had probablems with the Bosch electronic fuel injection (like most people) I took it into the shop last fall after my cars ignition kept cutting out speraticly after the engine had heated up. Symptons were ignition cutting 3 or 4 times a second for maybe 10-15 seconds, then running clear for another 20 seconds, then doing it again. Makes acceleration almost impossible and breakes traction when foot full on the gas, when the engine cuts back in. Anyways I had it fixed last fall at a fairly reputable shop and after them trying to find the problem they said it was a temp sensor, and I took my car home and it was fine, only once in awhile for a brief second had I seen these symptons in the last year when i was really driving my engine hard, so to say that it was fixed is a fair assumption. But last week it started again out of the blue and I really just want to get rid of this problem. Now if a shop finds that its the same problem as before and fixes it (a cheap $30 fix for the sensor) whats gonna make me think its not gonna happen again? That is why I am starting to think about Carburators. Ofcourse you have to tune those things too, but I dont really see those having the same "gremlin" like problems i've been having. I know some tripple Webers don't rim cheap, but i'd like to know, compared to the stock EFI , will they produce more horsepower for the money?
Paul Newmans Dan Deardorfs 280zx's that raced in IMSA and the SCCA had over 300hp with the Carbs, they changed them out because they found the EFI too restrictive. Makes me wonder
Paul Newmans Dan Deardorfs 280zx's that raced in IMSA and the SCCA had over 300hp with the Carbs, they changed them out because they found the EFI too restrictive. Makes me wonder
About the car, sounds like vapor lock to me, but I dunno for sure. Fuel damper ok? Nol leaks in the fuel system? Anyway, carbs can make a good deal of power. I don't think it will be cheaper as the same things that make power in fuel injected piston cars is done to carbed cars too like head work and boring, etc. However, carbed cars can make a good deal of power, right now I'm on a trip in Japan and I've seen a few old Skylines and Fairladies that are running on carbs that have put out some nice #'s. Most I've seen is on high octane pump gas (100 I think) and he has 358hp on triple carbs. Insane to hear too, wish I had a vid cam with me. There are numerous all motor carbed Z's here pulling 11's and some in the high 10's. I say go for it if you have the experience of tuning carbs. I don't!
I'm sticking to efi all the way, seems easier for me for some odd reason.
John 82ZXT
I'm sticking to efi all the way, seems easier for me for some odd reason.John 82ZXT
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Hmmm, I thought it may have been vapor lock at one point, Ive heard some people that have had these cars back in the day with that problem, but even when the engine kills it makes a clicking type of switch sound as if it thinks its still running which is cutting off fuel flow from the fuel pump and it happends in cold weather too so that pretty much cancels out vapor lock. But yeah, I have no experience with carbs, just lots of badluck with ignition components. I found out last night that if i ran the engine below 2000rpm it wouldnt start cutting out and if i did a little over it would do it slightly, and it was a fairly cool night, so all i gotta do is drive it on cool nights and never go over 2000 rpm! I think I will take it to the shop soon and see what they say, see if I get the same jargon.
your problems sounds more like the ingnition modual to me then anything else.. most people dont know about that part.. its about a $100 part but i know its going to solve your problem.. its probably nevber been changed and from what youve described. it sounds like its your module.. its that lil black box attached to the side of your distributer. its a common problem on the Zs as they get older.. i had the same problem with both my 79 and 81 ZX..
Is your fuel pressure constant? Could be the fuel pressure regulator crapping out, although I think icice9's suggestion is probably better. Is the car still running the stock coil? It could be old and not providing enough spark energy for the motor.
John 82ZXT
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The triple Webers will cost you, but they have a lot more go in them than the FI. I noticed a lot more power, especially at high rpm's, after swapping to the Webers on my '79 a few years ago. I think I paid around $1200 for the Weber kit from NOPI, who had the best price at the time. Then I paid a couple hundred for the K&N air cleaners, then I paid a couple hundred for a mechanical advance distributor (you can use the stock distributor if you go with the Mikunis), and then I don't know how much I spent in jets when I was tuning the things. You'll also spend another hundred or so in a fuel pump, regulator, and misc smaller parts. When I finally got the carbs tuned right though, the car ran like I couldn't believe though.
Something else to consider... I believe Weber is now building sidedraft DCOE style FI systems. I don't know anything about them or how well they perform.
Something else to consider... I believe Weber is now building sidedraft DCOE style FI systems. I don't know anything about them or how well they perform.
scott... the module is located on the distruber housing.. its a rectangular black box right next to it.. when you take off the cap you can get to the 2 connectors... thats one of the most common problems with the older ZXs... they go out.. most people havent changed it and the ZX is over 20 years old... so yeah.. you might wanna change that part... i had 2 ZXs and both of them had bad moduals
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