obama gun ban? what do you think ?
05-22-2009, 12:49 PM
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obama gun ban? what do you think ?
So i have been keeping pace with our " NEW " president MR. BARACK OBAMA "
" I didnt vote for him "
" I didnt vote for him "
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05-22-2009, 03:16 PM
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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
>
Most importantly note the difference
> between Australia
> and Switzerland at the bottom of this.
> In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From
> 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend
> themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
> In 1911, Turkey established gun control..
> From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
> million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
> exterminated.
> Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total
> of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves
> were rounded up and exterminated.
> China established gun control in 1935. From
> 1948 to 1952, 20
> million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were
> rounded up and exterminated.
> Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
> From 1964 to 1981,
> 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
> and exterminated.
> Uganda established gun control in 1970. From
> 1971 to 1979,
> 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
> exterminated.
>
> Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
> From 1975 to 1977, one
> million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
> exterminated.
> Defenseless people rounded up and
> exterminated in the 20th Century
> because of gun control: 56 million.
> It has now been 12 months since gun
> owners in Australia
> were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
> destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia
> taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are
> now in:
> Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
> percent.
> Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6
> percent..
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
> percent)
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
> percent.
> Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals
> did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over
> the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with
> firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months,
> since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
> There has also been a dramatic increase
> in break-ins and assaults of
> the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to
> explain how public safety
> has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense
> was expended in
> successfully ridding Australian society of
> guns.
> The Australian experience and the other
> historical facts above prove
> it.
> You won't see this data on the
> US evening news, or hear
> politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the
> hands of honest
> citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws
> adversely affect
> only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow
> Americans, before it's too
> late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control,
> please remind them
> of this history lesson. With guns, we are
> 'citizens'. Without them, we
> are 'subjects'.
> During WWII the Japanese decided not to
> invade America
> because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value
> your freedom, please
> spread this anti-gun control message to all of your
> friends. The purpose of
> fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
> defense.
> The sword is more important than the
> shield, and skill is more
> important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All
> else is supplemental.
> SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY
> HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND'S
> GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
> SWITZERLAND HAS THE
> LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN
> THE WORLD!!! IT'S A
> NO BRAINER!
>
> DON'T LET OUR
> GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR
> TAXDOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN
> EASY TARGET.
> Politicians are not concerned with your
> safety. If they were,
> there would be more done to punish perpetrators; not just
> ensuring all of their
> [criminals] rights while ignoring the rights of the
> victims. The politicians
> are much more concerned with their own safety as they erode
> your individual
> freedoms to promote their plan of
> "cradle-to-grave" socialism.
> Do you remember our history? How were we
> founded? We rebelled against a
> king who taxed, taxed, and taxed. The King decided what was
> best for everyone
> and mandated which religion you could practice. We fought
> with GUNS against our
> own government. Religious
> freedoms were the core of this civil disobedience. It was a
> struggle for
> "freedom of religion" not "freedom from
> religion"
> Now, we are being taxed on everything
> and the words
> "Jesus", "Savior", and
> "God" have become as
> politically incorrect as the racial "n-word".
> The sounds of
> upheaval, rebellion, disorder, revolt, and revolution
> reverberate in the minds
> of those with a social agenda. They must rid the law
> abiding populace of
> their weapons. These could and would
> be used to form a militia. The very reason the founding
> fathers included the 2nd
> Amendment to the Constitution.
>
> Yours Truley, Brick
>
Most importantly note the difference
> between Australia
> and Switzerland at the bottom of this.
> In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From
> 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend
> themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
> In 1911, Turkey established gun control..
> From 1915 to 1917, 1.5
> million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
> exterminated.
> Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total
> of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves
> were rounded up and exterminated.
> China established gun control in 1935. From
> 1948 to 1952, 20
> million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were
> rounded up and exterminated.
> Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
> From 1964 to 1981,
> 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
> and exterminated.
> Uganda established gun control in 1970. From
> 1971 to 1979,
> 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
> exterminated.
>
> Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
> From 1975 to 1977, one
> million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
> exterminated.
> Defenseless people rounded up and
> exterminated in the 20th Century
> because of gun control: 56 million.
> It has now been 12 months since gun
> owners in Australia
> were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be
> destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia
> taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are
> now in:
> Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2
> percent.
> Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6
> percent..
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
> percent)
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
> percent.
> Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals
> did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over
> the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with
> firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months,
> since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
> There has also been a dramatic increase
> in break-ins and assaults of
> the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to
> explain how public safety
> has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense
> was expended in
> successfully ridding Australian society of
> guns.
> The Australian experience and the other
> historical facts above prove
> it.
> You won't see this data on the
> US evening news, or hear
> politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the
> hands of honest
> citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws
> adversely affect
> only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow
> Americans, before it's too
> late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control,
> please remind them
> of this history lesson. With guns, we are
> 'citizens'. Without them, we
> are 'subjects'.
> During WWII the Japanese decided not to
> invade America
> because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value
> your freedom, please
> spread this anti-gun control message to all of your
> friends. The purpose of
> fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in
> defense.
> The sword is more important than the
> shield, and skill is more
> important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All
> else is supplemental.
> SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY
> HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND'S
> GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
> SWITZERLAND HAS THE
> LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN
> THE WORLD!!! IT'S A
> NO BRAINER!
>
> DON'T LET OUR
> GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR
> TAXDOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN
> EASY TARGET.
> Politicians are not concerned with your
> safety. If they were,
> there would be more done to punish perpetrators; not just
> ensuring all of their
> [criminals] rights while ignoring the rights of the
> victims. The politicians
> are much more concerned with their own safety as they erode
> your individual
> freedoms to promote their plan of
> "cradle-to-grave" socialism.
> Do you remember our history? How were we
> founded? We rebelled against a
> king who taxed, taxed, and taxed. The King decided what was
> best for everyone
> and mandated which religion you could practice. We fought
> with GUNS against our
> own government. Religious
> freedoms were the core of this civil disobedience. It was a
> struggle for
> "freedom of religion" not "freedom from
> religion"
> Now, we are being taxed on everything
> and the words
> "Jesus", "Savior", and
> "God" have become as
> politically incorrect as the racial "n-word".
> The sounds of
> upheaval, rebellion, disorder, revolt, and revolution
> reverberate in the minds
> of those with a social agenda. They must rid the law
> abiding populace of
> their weapons. These could and would
> be used to form a militia. The very reason the founding
> fathers included the 2nd
> Amendment to the Constitution.
>
> Yours Truley, Brick
05-22-2009, 09:33 PM
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I have my 12Gauge Combat shotty, and my .45ACP and Im a dead aim on both =3 Now I just need to get my hands on a .45 Long Colt Top break Revolver and my gun supplies will be good lol
And as for Vernal, Its likes a 30 second drive and I can shoot all I want lol
And as for Vernal, Its likes a 30 second drive and I can shoot all I want lol
05-22-2009, 10:25 PM
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man i just looked it all up and the only thing i see is that obama is talking about re-instating a ban on assault guns. so what. they are ugly and heavy anyway.
in fact, i found that obama has just passed a bill that ALLOWED loaded guns to be carried in national parks. they weren't before, and obama made it so that they WERE ALLOWED. get your facts strait before you go posting this ****. it's like everyone getting me all worried about my car getting taxed because of fuel mileage. well, when i look it up, i find nothing about it. i find things saying the opposite. i'm going back to not paying a bit of attention to the news. it's all dumb and it's never anything i need to worry about.
btw great post brick
in fact, i found that obama has just passed a bill that ALLOWED loaded guns to be carried in national parks. they weren't before, and obama made it so that they WERE ALLOWED. get your facts strait before you go posting this ****. it's like everyone getting me all worried about my car getting taxed because of fuel mileage. well, when i look it up, i find nothing about it. i find things saying the opposite. i'm going back to not paying a bit of attention to the news. it's all dumb and it's never anything i need to worry about.
btw great post brick
05-22-2009, 10:42 PM
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the only reason that one passed is because it got attached to that new credit card rules bill. thats how a lot of stuff gets passed, just attach it to a very popular bill. sneaky? of course, but thats politics for ya.
05-23-2009, 02:49 AM
#13
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Guns are not all that bad. Just in the hands of ignorant, prejudice people. I dont believe that they should be banned, just more controlled. Make people take classes and pass requirements of training for them just like a drivers license. You start off with the good ol C class, or crappy little pistols. Then for anything else, you have to train and pass tests and prove you basic ability to handle each class.
That and bullet control. You can have all the guns in the world, but aint worth a damn without bullets. Make them expensive as hell or tax the crap out of them. There would never be innocent bystanders ever again. If you got shot there wouldn't be a doubt in anyone's mind that you deserved it
That and bullet control. You can have all the guns in the world, but aint worth a damn without bullets. Make them expensive as hell or tax the crap out of them. There would never be innocent bystanders ever again. If you got shot there wouldn't be a doubt in anyone's mind that you deserved it
05-23-2009, 07:47 AM
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05-23-2009, 01:23 PM
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cant wait for the genocide... sounds like fun
btw QUIT ****ING LISTENING TO RUSH LIMBA AND SEAN HANNITY... all that conservative bull **** will rot your brain and you will end up like Ann Coulter, INSANE
btw QUIT ****ING LISTENING TO RUSH LIMBA AND SEAN HANNITY... all that conservative bull **** will rot your brain and you will end up like Ann Coulter, INSANE
05-23-2009, 03:16 PM
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Yeah you're so right! People that listen to Rush and Sean want low taxes, small government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and would rather kill terrorists than unborn babies. Pure insanity!!
Yeah I'm sure you'd be much better off listening to Jon Stewart or Keith Olbermann. Real rocket scientists there!!
Last edited by SportBikeMike; 05-23-2009 at 03:27 PM.
05-23-2009, 05:03 PM
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*facepalm* geeze, ya join the military because you don't wanna be a politician and ya end up smack in the middle of the political polo-game anyway.
Gun Control: yes, please make it harder for ignorant lil street punks to get their hands on weapons. give me the confidence of knowing i can step out into my hallway and cap the lil bastard who just busted my living room window and crawled in over my sofa at 3a.m. without having to worry about getting capped trying to defend my wife, children(not yet) and home.
Gun ban: No, not a snowballs chance in hell. I'm generally in agreement with all afore mentioned statements concerning required training for gun ownership, i do not however support the banning of guns. Street punks will find a way to get weaponry regardless of the law. Like they give a rats *** about the law in the first place.
Ammunition control: sounds like a good idea to me. its only going to take one shot from my .357 mag to drop anyone breaking into my home or trying to do me harm so i don't mind paying a extra for 12 rounds and a speed loader.
in the event of a gun ban, i will continue to be armed with or without conventional firearms. i may not have my shotgun, but i know very well how to make a pneumatic potato cannon out of metal piping that con lob a potato with enough force to punch through both sides of a 55 gallon drum. add a fist full of 6 penny nails to that potato and you've got one mean substitute for conventional weaponry.
Edit: enough punks end up in the hospitals looking like pin cushions and the geneva convention will find it necessary to reinstate weapon ownership just to be humane.
Gun Control: yes, please make it harder for ignorant lil street punks to get their hands on weapons. give me the confidence of knowing i can step out into my hallway and cap the lil bastard who just busted my living room window and crawled in over my sofa at 3a.m. without having to worry about getting capped trying to defend my wife, children(not yet) and home.
Gun ban: No, not a snowballs chance in hell. I'm generally in agreement with all afore mentioned statements concerning required training for gun ownership, i do not however support the banning of guns. Street punks will find a way to get weaponry regardless of the law. Like they give a rats *** about the law in the first place.
Ammunition control: sounds like a good idea to me. its only going to take one shot from my .357 mag to drop anyone breaking into my home or trying to do me harm so i don't mind paying a extra for 12 rounds and a speed loader.
in the event of a gun ban, i will continue to be armed with or without conventional firearms. i may not have my shotgun, but i know very well how to make a pneumatic potato cannon out of metal piping that con lob a potato with enough force to punch through both sides of a 55 gallon drum. add a fist full of 6 penny nails to that potato and you've got one mean substitute for conventional weaponry.
Edit: enough punks end up in the hospitals looking like pin cushions and the geneva convention will find it necessary to reinstate weapon ownership just to be humane.
Last edited by JPerkins; 05-23-2009 at 05:05 PM.
05-23-2009, 07:25 PM
#20
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Only on page so far? Where are the rational arguement FOR gun control? I am pretty much against giving the power of gun control to an government that is even half as dumb as our. But, I want to see some arguements that might actually sway me. Where are they at?
05-23-2009, 08:29 PM
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Thats because there isn't a rational argument for more gun control. More gun control = more gun crime. Look at Chicago! The only people gun control keeps the guns out of the hands of, are law-abiding citizens. Criminals will get their guns legal or not...afterall, they're criminals!
05-24-2009, 09:29 AM
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Thats because there isn't a rational argument for more gun control. More gun control = more gun crime. Look at Chicago! The only people gun control keeps the guns out of the hands of, are law-abiding citizens. Criminals will get their guns legal or not...afterall, they're criminals!
All gun control does is help the criminals thrive...
05-27-2009, 10:53 AM
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http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...=234&issue=047
Theres a link to some facts.
" Gun control " meens hiting your taget. With one shot .
" BUY " some of this http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=129898093
" come get my guns obama " ha ha ha ha ha
Theres a link to some facts.
" Gun control " meens hiting your taget. With one shot .
" BUY " some of this http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=129898093
" come get my guns obama " ha ha ha ha ha
05-27-2009, 11:24 AM
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I don't support Obama, but those accusations on that website seem very loaded and I bet there is a bit more to the story for each one.
I believe there are also bills trying to get police officers assault weapons in more cities so they aren't out gunned so often.
I believe there are also bills trying to get police officers assault weapons in more cities so they aren't out gunned so often.
