Would it be worth forking out the 3k for a VG30DETT shortblock from Courtesy Nissan or the 6 K for the long block......OR should i go junkyard searching for a low milage engine if it would be possible? Just wondering if it would be cost evective in the long run to buy the 0 milage short block and build it slowly and then when im finished building my TT moter take a few days roll my car up in the garage and swap in the newly built motor? Any opinions???????

 

I guess that depends. You might find a VG with 30K mi in a junkyard and pick it up for 500$ and it could be in perfect condition, but it's doubtful. If you have a find like atht waiting for you, then by all means. If not, then I guess that answers your question to a point.

 

Nah man, if you find any Z32 VG motor for 500bucks, consider yourself one lucky bastard! Cheapest VG30DE that I found was like 950... Average was like 1725! Most expensive was around 2600. I doubt you will find a low mileage engine for 500 bucks... Like I said, unless you are very VERY VEEEERRY lucky. If It were, my engine would be out right now, but unfortunately, im stuck with this POS VG that im not even sure I can fix... MY GOD I HATE THAT ENGINE!!!!! VG's suck, screw it, im dropping in an RB20. Its final, haha. Peace foo's

 

Well, yea, I wasn't sure if he was asking b/c he had a low mileage motor that he saw in a junkyard or not. And whad'ya mean the VG sucks? It's just like any other motor (RB)....if it has a lot of miles (which most VGs do b/c of age) and is not well taken care of, it will be crap...but if you keep on maintenance, only little things will come up.

 

Don't mind him.
Nismo's just pissed cuz he got taken on his car and now he has to fix it. Can't blame him a bit.
You just gotta remember to take that into consideration.

Come on Nismo, quit complaining and fix it already.

 

I see...hey, Rizz, why aren't your website pics working? all I see are red x's

 

I dunno. I'm gonna hafta investigate that one when I have the time. Maybe I'll redo them. The second car show page works though, at least.

 

speaking of vg's i love mine i love my car, i love everything about it, and your engine will run forever if you give it love, good oil, and frequent check-ups, and then when it still fails i will put in a tt and love it even more

 

thats a tt engine... i know if i said twin turbo's i would have been stoned to death by emo, 91zxtt, and the rest of the crew, bc we all know that u cannot turbocharge an n/a....blah...blah...blah keep up the good work guys. i have a feeling this is gonna be an expencive year for me, bc i am planning a lot of stuff

 

We've never said you can't turbocharge an N/A. It's just not economically feasible. I thought we were getting you all straightened out. What happened? Come on, pay attention. I'm not here to repeat myself. . J/K. . Thanks for the honorable mention. You were going to get stoned either way, so don't feel bad. It comes with the territory!

 

It's kinda stupid to turbo an NA motor. It's VERY economically stupid! Even if you DO get it done (which will be mucho $) you won't be able to creat much boost w/o blowing up your motor. That's just a small small explanation for those out there that do not have this concept down like Z_Wrecker. zwrecker, you're a fast learner and that'll serve you well. It already has...you're planning to go TT.

 

i knew that decision you guys would approve....see the thing is i love my n/a but i wanna hear those twins spool up, and then those BOF just rip that sound as i leave everything in my sight behind me...i am hoping this project will happen sometime this summer, bc i wanna do everything i wanna do on the car before i do the engine swap...you know the paint, wheels, i am working on the interior, and i also wanna save up for a front mount intercooler and a nice set of turbo's and a new tranny....see i did a little research and i think my z would be faster off the line than a tt with the same mods bc i have an n/a rear end, but i might suffer some top speed. well thats just what i heard, you guys are the pros so hollar

 

what can i say i've been chillin on this site for the past week...you learn a lot here

 

yep, you are correct sir.
It has to do with the gear ratio of the n/a diff.

 

Also, before you go and drop a bunch into BOV's, do a search on the topic and you'll see why. They really serve no benefit, performance-wise. You're just dropping a bunch of $ on the pshhh sound.

 

yep, recirculation valves are much more effective and they come with a TT motor. and a front mount intercooler might even hurt you. it blocks air flow to your radiator and your motor might heat up faster. unless you're gonna be making more than 650 wrhp and rendering your car not a practical DD, side mounts will be perfect for you. Check out either Stillens or Greddy smic's. and for daily use..sport 500s are pretty good...thats what I wanna go with when my turbos seize, if they do.

 

FMIC are ok to do, but you'll wanna upgrade your fan to a large cfm electric to compensate for the lack of air flow. There's also the issue of introducing hot air into the engine since your air filters will be behind the IC.
Some solutions I've seen for this have been to either relocate the air filters to where the SMIC used to be which will require the dual intake filter set up. Also, I've seen (a simpler solution IMO), the FMIC angled to allow airflow into the intakes, radiator, and IC as well.

 

But theyre really a waste of time and money and when you start wiggling it in there..it starts to even look weird. smic's are clean, simple, easy and effective. smic's are much more economically sound IMO.

 

wow this post got really off topic quick lol......so i geuss ill go junkyard searching for now untill i can accumulate 3g's plus so i can build a short block up lol

 

damn you guys move fast.... emo t-500's are what i am gonna get as well since there is not much lag on them and they are what most tt drivers switch to after they turbos die ( i've been doing a little research) right now i have a koyo radiator with an electric fan, and what i was thinking is when it's time to put a front mount i would move my air filter up, and possibly get the dual one so they would sit in that area in between headlights, where i would get a ducted piece so it shows the cold air in. i thought the BOF's get rid of of all that back pressure when when the throthle closes...i'll have to check that out too

 

Do you want a FMIC for looks? It'd be alot easier to use SMICs, but you won't have the look of a FMIC, but you'll get equal performance.
Also, BOVs are to let extra boost out. When you take your foot off the accelerater, the inertia of the compressor wheel keeps spinning and keeps creating boost. This boost goes back into the compressor housing and goes against the inertia of the compressor wheel and slows it down. This is called compressor surge. This is obviously unwanted since you want the compressor wheel spinning as fast asa possible when you step on the gas again. It also can't be very good for the turbo as a whole. BOVs release the excess boost into the air. There's one thing wrong with BOVs. Your ecu already already told the injectors to issue fuel to be used for the boost that we've now thrown out and that confuses your ECU a bit. But your stock recirculation valves are so much more effective. They take that excess boost and put it into the intake side of the compressor housing and hold on to it until you step on the gas again. This way, you're not wasting that boost and you're stikning with the correct air/fuel ratio. By the way..I've said this a bunch, but they come with your car.
*EVERYONE PLEASE BOOKMARK THIS POST* I've explained this many times and I've explained it in detail, I don't wanna do it again...but it was a pleasure THIS time.

 

thanx emo....this helps out a lot, i guess i never really thought of the air/fuel ratio when this happen....good stuff man.....really good stuff...you get two smilies great info man. so SMIC are just as effective as FMIC. i thougth the FMIC is a lot better...don't you get better cooling with FMIC...i am finding out a lot of interesting stuff today....

 

Do I detect an attitude?

Don't worry about it. I find myself repeating myself constantly around here. It seems to be a recurring pattern.

 

No attitude...I was just trying to prevent having to do what you do all the time. And zwrecker.....FMICs will cool better if you really need em. If you're going with TD05s and you're gonna be pumping 20+ psi, then maybe it's worth it...if not..SMICs will do the job perfect. A set of stillen SMICs and sport 500s is a great setup and SMICs are much more practical with sport 500s. And are you gonna save your money on BOVs?