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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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ok the elecric turbo i heard about from a buddy that might actually work is this. air is bypassing el super until u activate it, u use so much energy that u cant keep it going for more than a pass or so. its like nos rather then a super. to generate boost enough to actually pos boost a motor takes extreme ammounts of energy so after u make a pass u have to wait and recharge the spare battery with alternator. probably like jumping a dead batt on car it takes XX amount of minutes before u could turnm the car off and have enough energy in batteryto actually turn the car over on its own
same thing u may use it for 20 seconds but u have to wait 20 minutes before the alt chargers that batt back up enough to runn it
and for this reason i think everyone has called bullshit on all elec supers cuz the ones that claim constant power are total bullshit

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
anyone understand a damn thing he just said ^^^ cuase it sounded kinda like a constant spew of **** from his keyboard, maybe its just me though....
ooooooh duh what part dont u understand????? that i was backing u up ur statement with a real life example? the vdub statement? thats a volkswagon beetle (classic). the never had urge to get rid of cord statement? thats refering to the ELECTRIC leaf blower u know 110v A/C, cuz i hose clamped it on my intake and ran 2 100 foot extension cords to it and made 1st gear passes in my yard. um what else might help u? olds is refering to oldsmobile... or were u confused on the part where i was using the tachometer and guessing pulley sizes to guess rpms of supercharger pulley to contridict the the 35,000-65,000 nessary rpm of a super to produce boost and for the last sentence in that post snw.... i will admit i do not know the exact components of my supercharger. so while the pully maxes out at a 12000 (estimate) rpms on the supercharger... are the internals of the super geared to turn alot faster
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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sorry for the triple post but i wanna see him get this thing running



the link to hear about this on youtube is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0qeYd5gcnQ

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Weak... That looks photoshopped. Who builds big carb'd V8's these days anyway?
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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clikc the link nismo they get around to talking about it
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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I did... I'll I got in me is "meh... what a waste."
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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Saab,

was using electric assist motors in their turbos, or was at least researching it and now seem to have trended towards electronic controlled turbos. Read that in Popular Mechanics. All the assist motors do though is help fight lag. The electronic controls do a lot more with efficiency . Speaking of which, 30k rpm for an electric motor isn't impossible with a 12VDC power supply. For instance take your decent RC electric car motors they spin up about 3000 RPM/Volt at about 9VDC your at 30k I am assuming if they can get a RC car rolling at 40mph then they can push a goodly amount of air.

I think the time is coming we will see very small gasoline engines with electric assist turbos on them in production cars that get over 45 MPG. By very small I mean 1.1-1.3 liters.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...FQKJxgodFFii9w

http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...71.html?page=3
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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what i meant is it was really poor grammar, sentence structure, and spelling so i could understand what your point was haha.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by michanic220
wow, you seriously think you have a supercharging spinning 65,000 RPM? wow buddy you must have turbo's and supers confused. rofl.
a supercharger spins a lil faster then engine rpm, depending on what stage the supercharger is (different pullys)
You're a moron. Please stop posting, do some research, and come back. Superchargers can spin up to 65krpm, turbos up to 250krpm.
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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i may have bad everything when it comes to my post lmao but need i remind everyone of a certain poll??????????????
https://www.zdriver.com/forums/polls-250/who-wants-snw-use-proper-english-24771/
this poll is mostly only here to call u out for sayin ull use perfect grammer lol but it makes a great counter. besides i live in oklahoma
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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lol so because you live in a stereotypical place for red neck's you automatically get excused from using proper grammar... whatever....
Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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you would have to have one @#$% of a big pully on the crank shaft and a small @$$ pully on the supercharger. possible? yes, but not on common vehicles.
mabe on a lambo or somthing.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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me a moron?
step on my side of the block and ill show you moron.
whats wrong with rednecks?
im country?
my bad about the supers.. sorry i dont claim to know everything like you do zlover. step off the high chair, you dont know everything.
not saying your not correct, i will research it.
but the bashing isnt a must.
any everyone around here have big CARBS, why? because EFI is junk.
why doesnt my l28 run? wha? a sensor? yea, thats right.
1000 sensors to make a engine run? why not just throw a quadrajet 4 barrel on it. maybe not save alot of fuel but atleast the engine can breath.
just my oppenion.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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In the future, don't say I'm wrong unless you have some evidence to back it up. If you have evidence, I'll respect your argument. Saying someone's wrong with no evidence is not an intelligent thing to do, thus the "moron" statement.

http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Tur...%20Blowers.htm
Both superchargers and turbochargers require high compressor rpm to compress the air. This ranges from 30,000-65,000 rpm in superchargers and can be even higher with turbos (over 100,000 rpm).
http://members.tripod.com/tomak3/page10.html
The step up mechanism is required to convert the 6000 (or so) engine rpm, to the 40,000+ rpm necessary to build boost.
And here are some superchargers with impeller speeds above 55,000rpm
http://whiteracing.com/superchargers.html

99% of my posts are fact and are supported by evidence (hence the title under my username). Unless you have credible evidence to counter my statement, don't bother arguing. If you want proof, google it, because these sources were not hard to come by.

And I don't know everything, but I don't do what you did and claim to know things that I don't know. The First Philosophical Imperative is to not speak about things of which you have no knowledge.

Originally Posted by michanic220
step on my side of the block and ill show you moron
And whether I'm here or there, I'm right and you were wrong. What are you going to do? Fight me? How do you know I'm not some f*cking psycho killer who'd be glad to come over there and slit your throat? Watch who you threaten online... it only shows that you haven't thought things through. You know nothing about me.

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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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IF i were going to supercharge an NA z32, i would put a Paxton style in place of the AC. thats a big IF btw. the only reason i would consider doing anything other than buying a factory TT car for more HP is that you can't get a factory slicktop (or vert, for that matter) in TT in the US.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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i never said you were wrong.
im sure you'd be more then happy
to quote when i said that.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:19 AM
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and i really dont care if your a "phyco killer" or not, LOL. dude get your IP from sorce and anyone can find out anything about you.. name, number.. address. credit card numbers..anything.
its the internet.
not saying i would =]
just saying, its very possible.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:19 AM
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ok.......

where is there some more info on that paxton super conversion? what kind of boost are they looking at?

i love it when people challenge zlover. always entertaining.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by michanic220
i never said you were wrong.
im sure you'd be more then happy
to quote when i said that.
I'll quote what was said for you both:

Originally Posted by ZLover4Life
Superchargers spin at 30,000 to 65,000rpm... and they have the torque of the motor to keep them spinning.
Originally Posted by michanic220
wow, you seriously think you have a supercharging spinning 65,000 RPM? wow buddy you must have turbo's and supers confused. rofl.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:31 AM
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i'm trying to look up the paxton swap. doesn't appear so far that it's ever been done before.... i'm just curious, if it's looking at about a 5 psi boost, will the ECU and MAF and all that stuff need to be adjusted/replaced?
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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wow i really started an argument.
anyways i was thinking of doing the tt conversion since mine is a slicktop
but thought well i could put in a paxton or something for the hell of it till i get my tt motor built up
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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but thought well i could put in a paxton or something for the hell of it till i get my tt motor built up
Didn't you just say in your other thread that you have no $$$ at the moment? I dunno how you plan to do a complete custom Paxton s/c with no money. It would probably be cheaper to find a VG30DETT and swap it in, than go the supercharger route.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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KasbeKZ, you'd probably have to use an SAFC to run boost. I know that's how some people do it to turbocharge Sentras.
Old Aug 29, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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oh good idea. that might work, but i still forsee idle problems. do the sentras idle just fine after that kind of mods?



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