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#26
ok the elecric turbo i heard about from a buddy that might actually work is this. air is bypassing el super until u activate it, u use so much energy that u cant keep it going for more than a pass or so. its like nos rather then a super. to generate boost enough to actually pos boost a motor takes extreme ammounts of energy so after u make a pass u have to wait and recharge the spare battery with alternator. probably like jumping a dead batt on car it takes XX amount of minutes before u could turnm the car off and have enough energy in batteryto actually turn the car over on its own
same thing u may use it for 20 seconds but u have to wait 20 minutes before the alt chargers that batt back up enough to runn it
and for this reason i think everyone has called bullshit on all elec supers cuz the ones that claim constant power are total bullshit
same thing u may use it for 20 seconds but u have to wait 20 minutes before the alt chargers that batt back up enough to runn it
and for this reason i think everyone has called bullshit on all elec supers cuz the ones that claim constant power are total bullshit
Last edited by wake2wake21; 08-28-2008 at 02:34 PM.
#27
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
anyone understand a damn thing he just said ^^^ cuase it sounded kinda like a constant spew of **** from his keyboard, maybe its just me though....
#28
sorry for the triple post but i wanna see him get this thing running
the link to hear about this on youtube is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0qeYd5gcnQ
the link to hear about this on youtube is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0qeYd5gcnQ
Last edited by wake2wake21; 08-28-2008 at 02:45 PM.
#32
Saab,
was using electric assist motors in their turbos, or was at least researching it and now seem to have trended towards electronic controlled turbos. Read that in Popular Mechanics. All the assist motors do though is help fight lag. The electronic controls do a lot more with efficiency . Speaking of which, 30k rpm for an electric motor isn't impossible with a 12VDC power supply. For instance take your decent RC electric car motors they spin up about 3000 RPM/Volt at about 9VDC your at 30k I am assuming if they can get a RC car rolling at 40mph then they can push a goodly amount of air.
I think the time is coming we will see very small gasoline engines with electric assist turbos on them in production cars that get over 45 MPG. By very small I mean 1.1-1.3 liters.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...FQKJxgodFFii9w
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...71.html?page=3
I think the time is coming we will see very small gasoline engines with electric assist turbos on them in production cars that get over 45 MPG. By very small I mean 1.1-1.3 liters.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.ph...FQKJxgodFFii9w
http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...71.html?page=3
#34
Originally Posted by michanic220
wow, you seriously think you have a supercharging spinning 65,000 RPM? wow buddy you must have turbo's and supers confused. rofl.
a supercharger spins a lil faster then engine rpm, depending on what stage the supercharger is (different pullys)
a supercharger spins a lil faster then engine rpm, depending on what stage the supercharger is (different pullys)
#35
i may have bad everything when it comes to my post lmao but need i remind everyone of a certain poll??????????????
https://www.zdriver.com/forums/polls-250/who-wants-snw-use-proper-english-24771/
this poll is mostly only here to call u out for sayin ull use perfect grammer lol but it makes a great counter. besides i live in oklahoma
https://www.zdriver.com/forums/polls-250/who-wants-snw-use-proper-english-24771/
this poll is mostly only here to call u out for sayin ull use perfect grammer lol but it makes a great counter. besides i live in oklahoma
#37
#38
you would have to have one @#$% of a big pully on the crank shaft and a small @$$ pully on the supercharger. possible? yes, but not on common vehicles.
mabe on a lambo or somthing.
mabe on a lambo or somthing.
Last edited by michanic220; 08-28-2008 at 11:27 PM.
#39
me a moron?
step on my side of the block and ill show you moron.
whats wrong with rednecks?
im country?
my bad about the supers.. sorry i dont claim to know everything like you do zlover. step off the high chair, you dont know everything.
not saying your not correct, i will research it.
but the bashing isnt a must.
any everyone around here have big CARBS, why? because EFI is junk.
why doesnt my l28 run? wha? a sensor? yea, thats right.
1000 sensors to make a engine run? why not just throw a quadrajet 4 barrel on it. maybe not save alot of fuel but atleast the engine can breath.
just my oppenion.
step on my side of the block and ill show you moron.
whats wrong with rednecks?
im country?
my bad about the supers.. sorry i dont claim to know everything like you do zlover. step off the high chair, you dont know everything.
not saying your not correct, i will research it.
but the bashing isnt a must.
any everyone around here have big CARBS, why? because EFI is junk.
why doesnt my l28 run? wha? a sensor? yea, thats right.
1000 sensors to make a engine run? why not just throw a quadrajet 4 barrel on it. maybe not save alot of fuel but atleast the engine can breath.
just my oppenion.
Last edited by michanic220; 08-28-2008 at 11:28 PM.
#40
In the future, don't say I'm wrong unless you have some evidence to back it up. If you have evidence, I'll respect your argument. Saying someone's wrong with no evidence is not an intelligent thing to do, thus the "moron" statement.
http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Tur...%20Blowers.htm
http://members.tripod.com/tomak3/page10.html
And here are some superchargers with impeller speeds above 55,000rpm
http://whiteracing.com/superchargers.html
99% of my posts are fact and are supported by evidence (hence the title under my username). Unless you have credible evidence to counter my statement, don't bother arguing. If you want proof, google it, because these sources were not hard to come by.
And I don't know everything, but I don't do what you did and claim to know things that I don't know. The First Philosophical Imperative is to not speak about things of which you have no knowledge.
And whether I'm here or there, I'm right and you were wrong. What are you going to do? Fight me? How do you know I'm not some f*cking psycho killer who'd be glad to come over there and slit your throat? Watch who you threaten online... it only shows that you haven't thought things through. You know nothing about me.
http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Tur...%20Blowers.htm
Both superchargers and turbochargers require high compressor rpm to compress the air. This ranges from 30,000-65,000 rpm in superchargers and can be even higher with turbos (over 100,000 rpm).
The step up mechanism is required to convert the 6000 (or so) engine rpm, to the 40,000+ rpm necessary to build boost.
http://whiteracing.com/superchargers.html
99% of my posts are fact and are supported by evidence (hence the title under my username). Unless you have credible evidence to counter my statement, don't bother arguing. If you want proof, google it, because these sources were not hard to come by.
And I don't know everything, but I don't do what you did and claim to know things that I don't know. The First Philosophical Imperative is to not speak about things of which you have no knowledge.
Originally Posted by michanic220
step on my side of the block and ill show you moron
Last edited by ZLover4Life; 08-28-2008 at 11:43 PM.
#41
IF i were going to supercharge an NA z32, i would put a Paxton style in place of the AC. thats a big IF btw. the only reason i would consider doing anything other than buying a factory TT car for more HP is that you can't get a factory slicktop (or vert, for that matter) in TT in the US.
#43
and i really dont care if your a "phyco killer" or not, LOL. dude get your IP from sorce and anyone can find out anything about you.. name, number.. address. credit card numbers..anything.
its the internet.
not saying i would =]
just saying, its very possible.
its the internet.
not saying i would =]
just saying, its very possible.
#45
Originally Posted by michanic220
i never said you were wrong.
im sure you'd be more then happy
to quote when i said that.
im sure you'd be more then happy
to quote when i said that.
Originally Posted by ZLover4Life
Superchargers spin at 30,000 to 65,000rpm... and they have the torque of the motor to keep them spinning.
Originally Posted by michanic220
wow, you seriously think you have a supercharging spinning 65,000 RPM? wow buddy you must have turbo's and supers confused. rofl.
#46
i'm trying to look up the paxton swap. doesn't appear so far that it's ever been done before.... i'm just curious, if it's looking at about a 5 psi boost, will the ECU and MAF and all that stuff need to be adjusted/replaced?
#47
wow i really started an argument.
anyways i was thinking of doing the tt conversion since mine is a slicktop
but thought well i could put in a paxton or something for the hell of it till i get my tt motor built up
anyways i was thinking of doing the tt conversion since mine is a slicktop
but thought well i could put in a paxton or something for the hell of it till i get my tt motor built up
#48
Originally Posted by rtmorgan
but thought well i could put in a paxton or something for the hell of it till i get my tt motor built up