Hi, I'm new here. Nice to be a part of ZDriver. I absolutely love the Z32, and I'm planning on buying one in the near future. Either that, or a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4, which is, as far as my understanding goes, basically the same car. I understand that the Z32 is faster, because it's alledgedly lighter than the VR4, and I'll probably end up going with a Z32. Everyone tells me to go with the Z because it's easier to repair the tranny, since it's not electronic AWD. I'd like some opinions on that, though, if it wouldn't be too much trouble. I also trust Nissan a bit more than Mitsubishi. Anyways, I've got a pretty decent deal on a Z32 at the moment, as well as some black leather bucket seats from a 2004 Infiniti G35. I was wondering if it's the same bracket, and if the seats will fit nicely in the 300ZX. Thanks, I hope you'll all welcome me here at Z drivers!

 

Whoever gave you the idea that the Z32 and the 3000GT are basically the same car should be shot. The Z32 is the far superior car. There's no alleged about the weight either....the Z32 is lighter...period. Z32 was on Car & Driver's 10 best every year that it was produced. I don't recall ever seeing the 3000Gt on there ever. Who cares about the tranny, considering the manual tranny on the Z32 is virtually bullet proof. You only work on the tranny when you need a new clutch.

If you want a real car, get a Z. If you don't then get the 3000.

 

you're gonna get a biased opinion on here. the vr4 is a nice car, but it has some serious maintenance issues. Both cars will require a lot of attention, but the VR4 is ridiculous. The Z is going to be easier to modify to get bigger power, the VR4 has awd, which is a blessing and a curse in this case.

 

i think the 300gt is more of a dodge stealth, like the previper, for those who haven't seen one.

 

3KGT's are crap. I raced one ons tock boost and owned it pretty bad. I also raced my buddy's TT and he wooped me hard. I uped the boost and kept up. he uped the boost and whooped me harder. lesson of the day.

Z32>>>>> 3000GT

(I have an S13 with SR20 that I am selling or trading to get a Z32)

 

Lol, well don't get me wrong, but I guarantee you that if I went on 3SI, I'd get a different opinion. It's no problem, though... These are the differences I see between the Z and the 3000. The reason I like the 3000 is because I believe the interior is nicer, and overall, the car has more curves to it. It's a bit more luxurious. But, it is definitely slower than the Z, but hey - it'll still tear apart anything on the road, all except for the Z, right? Generally, anyways. The reason I like the Z is because it's faster, and like it was stated above, it's basically bulletproof. I've gotta admit to myself that I'll be spending a lot more money in maintenence on the VR4 than I will on the Z32, so I'm probably going to end up with a Z32. But, you guys do understand that this is the interior discussion forum, and I did ask a question about interiors, right? What do you all think about the G35 seats in a Z32? I doubt the bracket is the same... But if I had them welded, I think it'd be an awesome improvement if I ended up with a cloth interior.

Edit: By the way, I hope I didn't get started on the wrong foot here by being optimistic about the VR4, but I'll be the first to say that I respect three cars most before anything else. Those are the Z32, the 3000GT, and the JZA80 Supra. But, like I said, consider me a Z32 patron like all the rest of you, because that's gonna be the car I end up with.

Edit 2: Oh, and for wreckedj30, you're absolutely right, but at the same time you're wrong. If you don't already know, I'll fill you in. Info is good! Mitsu made the 3000GT, and then cracked a deal with Chrysler to construct 3000GT's with slightly altered body styles for Chrysler, so that they could sell them as the Dodge Stealth. The difference? Most Stealths came with an SOHC engine, normally aspirated. Then, there was the Stealth R/T, which was basically the same as the 3000GT VR4, only a bit slower because of differences in weight and very slight differences in engine components. But, both cars are made by Mitsubishi. It's not the previper, because I'm fairly sure the Viper was already in production at the time. Dodge needed a midship sports car, and the Stealth was their answer.

 

and if your worried about tranny problems... dont get a sh!tsubishi... the 3kgt VR4 trannies are the biggest pieces of **** ever. and its AWD so its heavier adn is even more suceptable to tranny problems ontop of there **** tranny already. the Z32 is an attention *****... the 3KGT is a mobile failure machine. they weigh 4k lbs to. sooo.... yeah. ony mitsubishi you should ever consider buying is a 1st/2nd gen eclipse or a galant VR4. (the DSM cars) and even then id take a z32 over them any day

 

well at least i was half right, i could of sworn the vipers came out in 95+ or so, but w/e. and yeah i ment the r/t. Those are the only one worth considering.

 

the first viper was in 94

 

yeah and the stealth and the 3000gt are teh SAME car. just like eagle talons plymouth laser and mitsu eclipse. and like plymouth breeze and dodge neon.. and so on.

 

haha i knew it, the stealth was the pre-viper... But there **** eh, my friend had a 3kgt vr4tt it was pretty sick, he warped the head and its been sitting for a while now.

 

wow... he warped the head.. that SUCKS... and the VR4 is an expensive *** car to buy adn to maintain... more price than a z32 i bet...

EDIT: and the VR4 is ugly... ESPECIALLY compared to a Z

 

yeah compared to the 3z, they're ****, it was fast but i'd take a z anyday, has to be a tt though, cause i do believe my stock zx can beat an n/a....maybe not, but i think so, if i get traction. I just wish the z came awd, that'd be the sickest. No thread jacking ment.

 

no way... to much weight.. not true sports car... to much HP drivetrain loss... and drivetrain stress...
and if your car can run faster than a 15.3 ish second 1/4 mile then its faster than a N/A z32

 

i think stock they run that fast..lol. Well the one i raced was a auto, but it was hooked up a little. I spanked the shnit out of him. He caught up when my front end started floating, reason no air dam.

 

Ah, so the Viper came out in '94, I see. Well, I'd still not like to consider the Stealth as a pre-viper, because they're two completely different cars. I've seen Stealths beat Vipers, with modifications. Gotta give each car the respect it deserves, after all. I thought they did actually have an AWD 300ZX? I know that some of them came with semi all wheel steering, similar to the 3KGT, but I'm not sure which ones those are. Anyways, nobody answered my question yet, lol.

 

it came with HICAS. the TT did. early models were hdraulic then they changed to electric. but basically were a waste.. just like all AWS. more weight more money more to break. and as for the seats as a direct swap... i doubt it... whatm cars do you know of that are direct swap unless from the same car? none thats what.

 

awd is nice.... both are nice, all depends on how much you want to spend as to which is faster... 3KGT > Stealth

 

j30's also came with aws it sucked, thats the second cause its wrecked, first is shitty tires in icey conditions.

 

no one's answering your question about g35 seats in a Z32 b/c no body knows. I don't think it's been done. I've seen Z33 seats in a Z32. I'm sure it could be done...do it, post pics and impress us. Heres the basic comparisons between the 3 japanese super cars discussed:
Supra---fastest of the three. Easiest to tune and easiest to work on. Most expensive. Poor styling (as considered by many designers and such)....exterior (I personally love the look of Supras) and especially interior. Probably the most reliable and strongest block that is commonly able to withstand 600rwhp+ on the stock block. Comes with a 6spd which is hotness.
VR4---slowest. Hardest to modify and maintain. Also poor styling (but I think they look pretty good myslef). Expensive to own a modified VR4.
Z32---Faster than the VR4. Known as having the best styling out of the three, especially the ergonomic interior that is very free flowing. Has some issues with bad wheel hop and bump steer. Hard to work on and not as reliable when heavily modded (upgraded turbos+).

 

but also its harder to get traction on a supra, or so i've heard.

 

so certain lambos arent true sports car?

and car designers didnt build cars thinking that everyone would mod them to the max and use them in a racing environment. they built them to suit the needs of the street, and give plenty of extra options for safety, luxury, peoples tastes, etc...

 

I'll probably do it, if I get a Z32. If I get a VR4, I think having Nissan seats would look stupid. I thought the Supra had the most ergonomic interior?

 

i retract my sports car statement.. i got out of control. lol. the rest i stick to. unless you point out something else i just typed out. im surprised you didnt throw out porsche at me. but w/e lol. and i did mention the seats actually. i believe he asked if they are a straight swap (same brackets) and for that i serioously doubt it. as if they can fit probably. but i dont know why? i honestly really like the Z32 seats... they are sooooo comfortable and very supporting. have you driven either car yet? or are you just like window shopping... becuase looking at vehicles isnt how you buy. driving them is.

 

especially when you need to figure out if the engine in that $4000 TTZ is actually working