http://www.preignitioncc.com/ps/index.htm


^found it is a popular science magazine...dunno how it works but I think the car community should see it...

 

wonder how much $$$

 

So it's breaking down the gas I'm injecting into smaller amounts of gas so my car can combust a smaller amount of gas?

This seems like it would be annoying too as you'd need however big this catalytic converter is on top of your intake manifold and then the injectors mounted into it, is what I can only imagine.

 

Sounds like a bunch of bs to me. I don't see how "ionizing" fuel will make you get better gas mileage. The ecu will inject a set amount of fuel no matter what so that bunks one of the statements saying the ecu will inject less fuel. You can't break down fuel before entering the engine either. Fuel gets broken down by the combustion process ala heat. If it were that easy to increase gas mileage, you would think practically every car company would have that on their vehicles to meet the CAFE standards for fuel economy much easier. Save your money and just drive slower and accelerate moderately if you want to save gas.

 

It's bogus just like all the other "fuel saver" gimmicks (which we've talked about many right here on ZDriver). If it were real, don't you think it would be all over the news & all the car makers would be using it???

 

Oh crap I think I removed this from my car. It was called an EGR valve.

 

Did anybody else even watch the video? The converter is installed in place of the original converter. The fuel goes through the converter in some type of chamber to be atomized before hitting the intake, so it can be burned much more efficiently. Since the atomized fuel can burn more efficiently, and the gasious fuel flows much better than liquid fuel does, they can turn down the fuel injector flow/pulse width (using a piggyback controller plugged into the stock computer) to increase mileage without running lean and causing damage to the engine. Adding the water (they claim converted to pure hydrogen and O2 plasma) injection would allow them to cut even more fuel from the engine without causing a meltdown Not sure of all the technical stuff involved, but watching the video presentation it does seem entirely feasible. I submitted a request for quotes just for the heck of it. If it does work, I would expect it to be fairly expensive, but how long would it take to pay for itself if you jumped from 24mpg to over 100mpg with current gas price trends? With the amount of miles I drive annually, I could probably put these systems on my fullsize Bronco, and Eagle Talon TSI and they could pay for themselves in fuel cost savings within a year. I'll post the price quotes if/when I hear anything back from them. I noticed they only go back to 1990 for requests for quotes, so I don't know if they would put together a system for a 280ZX or not.

 

I'll watch the video after the playoff games, but keep in mind that fuel gets atomized by the fuel injectors. Before that, it wouldn't make sense. Gaseous fuel in the lines is like vapor lock isn't it?

 

My friend said at some point in the video they say you never have to change your oil again.

 

my stepdad has actually seen a technology like this in action, albeit on a test bed. but it does exist. in current internal combustion engine designs, much of what goes out your tailpipe is unburned volatiles. this breaks the fuel down (not burns) before it hits the combustion chamber so that it can be more efficiently combusted. basically, it allows you to put to use a higher percentage of energy from the same amount of fuel. what i don't know is how reliable it is. last i heard about it was that it was still being tested. i do not know anything about this company in the link, so i would do a bit more research into their claims before handing them my money.

 

ill let you all do it and when gas prices go down from less use, ill be the one smiling!!!!

plus i wouldnt really wanna chance that stuff in a performance car app, a DD like on a honda or something then coolio

 

I agree with nismo.
Just wanted to see if you guys knew about it:]
btw, I was watching the news and they said that hydrogen will be soon cheaper to produce than gasoline...

hahaha

what will that do to the tuning world?

 

probably not as much as you would think. technologies have been around for decades that could replace oil. what are we still using?? the current world infrastructure is set up around oil. that is not, can not, and will not change in a short span of time. car companies are not going to rapidly implement drastic changes in technology for their mainstream products, as it is human nature to be wary of change. people are used to their internal combustion. then there is the convenience factor, which ties in to the infrastructure. people do not want to go out of their way to find fuel for their new car. i could go on and on.

there are technologies that exist today, and some that have existed for many years, that would boggle the mind of the average individual. just because you do not know about them does not mean they do not exist.

 

oh i know...

have you ever heard of stan meyer?

 

One of the guys involved with the company has supposedly done time for some type of fraud. Don't know if the rest of the people involved in this company are legit or not, but supposedly the PICC portion of the kit is supposed to be revealed at a huge national renewable energy convention in DC in a few months. I'll wait until the full system hits the streets and read some independent sourced reviews before paying what they want for the system. I found their price was $3500 or $4500 for the complete kit, which sounds about right to me if it really works, but would be a huge class action lawsuit if it didn't.

 

It seems that this system would require quite a bit of modification to the car, and like was mentioned probably wouldn't work for older cars unless the car was upgraded to a system such as megasquirt where it was tunable. As we've all learned there's pretty much no way to piggyback our existing ECUs

 

I'm all for replacing oil with fudge... It tastes so good... must be good for motors.

 

wait wait..... maple syrup!!! it feels just like oil! then if you ever have wafles but no syrup you can run out to the car and pop the drain plug for a second. i always run out of syrup when i need it the most

 

hahahahaha


i just saw an "A-1" commercial...

"yeah, its that important."



but which is more important, a nice big steak or running your Z ? :P

 

Big steak... hands down.

 

i vote 4 buttsecks

 

Heh, the description about how it breaks down fuel molecules using magnetism sounds exactly like that whole put-a-magnet-on-your-fuel-line gadget, which doesn't work.

 

Forget the pre-ignition stuff, give your car the performance it's been missing with the Turbonator.

When you're ready to step up click here

 

screw the turbonator

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=products_all

 

oh thats classic, i was looking for muffler bearings and blinker fluid.