LoL... yeah, when the shifter is jammed against the body & isn't going anywhere. I've been there before.

 

If Its Jammed, At Least It Wont Fall On You, Ive Done A Zeds Clutch In 2.0 Hours Flat, Labour Time, Not Including Machine Work. Usually When I Help Somebody Or Do A Tranny Job, Somehow I Get My Wrist Jammed Between The Concrete And The Tranny, And My Watch Usually Gets Stuck So I Cant Get It Out. Sucks On Ford 4x4's Ouch!!

 

Yeah when I was pulling the motor out of my NA to do the turbo swap I got so caught up on getting the turbo motor out of it's car with everything intact and undamaged and with the na motor I was just cutting connectors and hoses cause I wasn't going to reuse any of it. So I started pulling the NA motor and I got it to drop and was trying to pull it forward (with tranny attached) and it just wouldn't come. I was pulling and pulling and nothing. Wouldn't budge. So I tried pushing it back. Still wouldn't budge. So I'm looking around for whats stuck and can't find anything. I go to sit in the car to cool off and I look over and see the shift boot sunk down under the car. Thats when it clicked that I had forgot to get the shifter off. I couldn't get to it so I had to cut out the shift boot (the **** was stuck) and use the leveler and raise the front of the engine up and drop the tranny end down all the way to the ground and finally that way I got access to the shifter to remove it. IT was a pain in the ***. If I had the car raised up it probably wouldn't have been so bad but I still had the car completely on the ground. And all of this took place at 2am cause of the damn home owners

 

Well I have been lazy lately, and non-motivated. But I think I will start tomorrow on my Z. Getting ready to take the tranny out. After I regrease my wheel bearings in my Celica. They are driving me nuts, and squeal a high pitch.

 

I know, I know!! But it's something that is burned into my consciousness. As a result, I've been known to put 6 and even 8 jack stands under my car!

Then I use one of my floor jack to 'catch' the transmission and It keeps tension off the shaft when you're trying to slide it out.

If I can ever get my garage cleaned out and my lift ordered, it'll be a whole 'nother story. Until then, I'm a jack stand *****.

 

Thats bound to be a classic

 

Well I am still un-motivated to touch my Z. I don't like the thought of going under it again. And taking it apart, it just doesn't appeal to me right now. I think because I have been under it so much. That I don't even want to look at it right now. I hope sometime soon, I will get enough motivation to get under him, and see what happened to my clutch system. Because if I start it in any gear, it will go forward or backward. Depending where the shifter is, and it acts like I don't have the clutch pushed in. But indeed I do, so it was a pain to turn around, so I could start tearing him apart. But like I said, I don't have enough dedication right now, to mess with it. I am definately burned out right now.

 

best to wait 'till your not pissed off at it. i never work on my car when im pissed of at anything. just asking for truoble.

 

Well the thing is, I am not mad at my car. I can't really blame him, for being abused in the past. But I really miss driving my Z, but I don't like the thought of taking him apart again. I am calm, and cool right now, but no fire under my **** to touch him at the moment. I hope I snap out of it this week. I really need to get him fixed. I miss sitting on the ground.

 

It's kinda like me, I have to pull my rail again to fix the seals on my injectors. Although it'll probably be a quicker job than yours. I just understand how hard it is sometimes to get motivated.

 

Hey want to trade? I would much rather 10 times over mess with your rail, opposed to me having to take my tranny out. The fuel rail is a cinch, because I have done it so many times, in the past. And yes it would be a much quicker job on yours. Mine involves taking the drivetrain out, and apart. And at least you can drive your Z in the condition it is. Mine won't even go into gear, and it really sucks.

But I am not getting on you duowing, and I appreciate the thought, nonetheless. I am just making a point, I will get there.

 

Okay well I started taking him apart today. I got the driveline out, cat out, and the heatshield, and such. The gear oil is draining out right now. And tomorrow, I will unhook the speedo cable, slave cylinder, and the backup light switch. And then take out the housing bolts. Also the tranny mounts, after I put my floor jack under it. That is all for now, operation is started.

 

 

Atleast you live in a place where it's generally warm. This weahter is messed up. I twas 70 degrees out 3 days ago, now it's 30 degress out. I'll have to mess with a tranny eventually when I finally do a swap to 5-speed.

 

Rock on WildmaN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rod.

 

It's about 80F here today. I'm sorry, but Ohio sucks...jk

 

Well I got everything ready to pull the tranny out. But I can't get it free of the motor. So it looks like I will have to pull the motor off it's mounts. I don't think I really have a choice. I tryed prying it apart with the crowbar, but it will not break loose. I sure wish I had somebody else helping me, and or a engine hoist. Anyway so any thoughts or tips would be great, and thanks.

 

If the tranny mount is disconnected (trans now hanging low & pulling engine back) & ALL bolts are out from the bell housing to engine... the trans should easily pull free. If not, you've missed something. Don't pull the motor mounts... that is more work than necessary.

 

Yeah I have the tranny on top of the floor jack, so I don't have stress on the motor, and keep it from binding worse than it is. And yes everything is out, and clear. I also think it is harder because it is stuck in gear. So definately something is binding inside, and it wont pry free. So I am probably going to need the jaws of life, to get that thing free. Oh well, will tackle more tomorrow. Got to eat something, and go to work.

 

something could be misaligned causing a problem with you pulling it apart. That could also explain why there was a problem shifting it into gear in the first place

 

Okay I have one heck of an update for all you guys. Nismo, you were right, I did miss a bolt. This is for me, and my idiocy, on not double-checking. Anyway the tranny is out, and I found out what happened, well for the most part. My throw-out bearing casing was broke off on a section, close to where the clutch fork pin goes. And it gets better, my clutch disc had a broked spring in it. And that spring was busted in 3 pieces. Wow I really wonder why my clutch wasn't working. Doh! Anyway I should have him running tomorrow. I went to Autozone, and bought a new clutch kit. But of course I am using my Centerforce clutch plate. So comments feedback, and such is always welcome. I mean I am so happy, even though he is not running. It is the fact I know he will be.

 

Damn straight boy! See... it's a pain in the ***, but at least he'll be runnin again. I personally would just use the whole clutch kit from AutoZone... I'm a lil leary of mixing parts.

EDIT... I mean mixing diff makes of clutch parts.

 

Yeah it should be allright. The clutch plate mounts the same, with stock clutch parts. Should be no problem, but yeah I should be driving him tomorrow. I am also taking the driveline out of my '81. Because he has fairly new u-joints in his driveshaft. And maybe that will get rid of my clunking when letting off the gas, or shifting at certain rpm's. We will see on that one.

Now I have been thinking about what happened inside, that caused this problem. By no means am I an expert. But I believe when the spring broke off, it caused some friction, and when the throwout bearing pushed forward to push in the clutch plate. Which I think caused it to grind on the broken spring parts. And make it where it was ****-eyed, and broke that piece off, which holds the clip, for the clutchfork. So in turn the fork was moving the throwout, but because of the area, that housed the clip on broke. It couldn't go forward enough, to push on the clutch disc. I am sure the plate would still work. But because of it being old, and who knows how old. One of the springs finally decided to break off. Serves me right for rushing, and not getting new parts for my clutch system. There are just certain parts, that you should replace new. Well there you have it, not bad for a beginner I think. LOL

 

Congrat's. Let us know when you get it back on the road with your new clutch. No problems mixing clutch parts. It's common practice.

 

way to go wildman, and you were going to give up for awhile. good thing you didnt. anything that is going to take a lot of work to fix that could be done earlier, i always do it to avoid this type of situation. i always learn the hard way, so dont think im perfect by saying all that.