http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/CTGY/CARWCH

Or, you can buy some of those cheapo hanging cupholders.

 

YES! I love it, definitely investing in one of these. Thank you. How hard are they to install? just a couple of screws?

 

Also, has anyone put these seat covers in their car? http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/WSC/50-3816

Id love to see what they look like on a car

 

The description right in the link I showed you haha.

 

For now if your in desperate need of a cup holder just open the glove box and the lid has one or two flat indents to hold cups, just don't go faster then 0 mph or they will fall out, or bump the lid with your knee.

 

True sports cars have no cup holder. And if ya get a t3/t4 turbo get a genuine one from garret or turbonetics. Etc. No cheap crap. And hiya don't need to upgrade anything if hiya have stock boost levels. Since it will be a more efficient turbo it will actually put out more cfm and cooler temps than what your oem turbo does so it'll be safer and respond better. Investors and an ic are supporting modded. An ic is helpful in any situation but injectors are not needed until you mess with boost levels and you need to tune.

 

So if I use a t3/t4 turbo and use stock/semistock boost levels I shouldnt need any of the supporting mods such as megasquirt, injectors, IC, etc.?

 

That's correct. I have a big t3/t4 turbonetics with an external wastegate setup and massive front mount with stock injectors and ecu. Obviously they wll all get upgraded but in the mean time its stock.

 

http://www.atlanticz.ca/zclub/techtips/turbo/index.html

A nice basic guide and it's a good read. I've gone over it multiple times myself.

 

What Intercooler did you end up going with?

 

This is very helpful, thank you!

 

First of all welcome to the club Nice car and a great buy!

A few things to point out. You've got a great car - don't wreak it! You can do a lot of performance mods quite affordably but there is some stuff you shouldn't cheap out on. First off the T3/T4 was one of the first upgrades you could do to a stock T3. It's still 1960's technology! If you are going to upgrade your turbo get a modern dual ball bearing turbo like a GT30 or GT35, etc. You're going to spend an extra $500 but you will gain substantially in efficiency which should always be your main priority in a turbo charged system. If you can't afford that then get a used turbo from a GTR (R32 IIRC) - they used BB turbo's from the factory.

If you are uping the boost you will need to add more fuel. The stock injectors are only good to about 225HP at the crank. Then you will need a way to reliably control the fuel, etc. I would recomend getting some sort of programable ECU to start with. Learn the system and then start upgrading for performance. Personally I think the MegaSquirt is the best bang for your buck but it's a fair learning curve. Nistune is very good as well but for the money you could have a MS stand alone with a lot more flexibility and precision. That's the difference between 1970's technology and 2009...

For your intercooler it's not so much the size that matters. You need to take into consideration routing of your piping and length. 2.5" is plenty for most applications. The design of the intercooler (I prefer long end tanks with lots of short runners ala Spearco design, bar and plate design and a good entry into the intercooler internal runners) and most importantly ducting around the intercooler to direct airflow. People obsess with getting as big of an intercooler as possible but very few use ducting to enhance the performance of the intercooler. Also putting your air filter inside the engine bay goes against everything you are doing to get the air temp down. Sucking in hot engine bay air is a huge step backwards in getting the turbo charged air cooled.

This is what I would do.

#1 - suspension. The stock setup sucks hard because it isn't hard. You've got a great set of springs - throw those in.

#2 - exhaust. Your turbo works off of the pressure differential from the engine exhaust manifold side being high to the exhaust pipe side being low. The greater the difference the quicker your turbo will spool and the more power you can produce efficiently. Get your exhaust as free flowing as possible - that's free horsepower.

#3 - ECU. Upgrade to modern electronics and have full and more precise control so you can squeeze more power out of your car - stock or modified.

#4 - Intercooler - then you can start increasing the boost mildly.

#5 - now you need to start upgrading multiple things because if you increase your turbo and boost you need more fuel - bigger injectors. More fuel means more demand on the fuel pump, etc, etc, etc....

 

there's nothing wrong with a t3/t4 turbo for an l28. those engine have so much limitation in airflow due to intake runners and head port sizes, they will hardly make much use of a GT series or BB turbo for the most part until you go into some major porting and custom intake manifold IMHO. t3/t4 is trust worthy and can get you to levels most ppl still using an L series motor would be happy with.

As far as my IC setup is, it's a large HKS intercooler. I have no idea on the measurements. 3 inch thick I know prob about 12 high 24 or more across. 2.5 inch piping though. it's big, and I'd never use it if it weren't for the t3/t4 turbo, the stock one would have trouble filling that much volume.

 

I agree about the t3/64 turbo. BB's are better, but they cost almost twice as much.

 

What's the most hp you can reliable get from the t3/t4? Around 350?

 

Depends on the compressor size. There's many out there. only 2 turbine sizes I think though.

 

With what you were saying earlier though 350 is well above what you'll really need.

 

Sure a T3/T4 will work but with so many other modern options why go down that road? Efficiency is so important with a turbo system and the turbo itself is the heart of the system. If you want a cheap turbo use a more modern BB turbo from a R32 GTR or a Holset. The Holset has a great map and it's very efficient. I'm not sure if anyone has shoe horned them into an S130 but its a common upgrade for the S30 swaps. A new T3/T4 is about $900 for a Garrett and you can get a GT35R for $1300.

Yes the T3/T4 will definately work and it's got a great track record. Personally I'd rather keep the air temperature going into the cylinders as cool as possible making more power and extending the life of the engine.

Yes the intake runners are the biggest restriction on the stock engine and porting them out is a great idea. The GT35R works better here even at stock boost levels because it adds less heat to the system - that's the benefit not that it can run 30lbs of boost...

 

The benefit in a more stock application though is what I feel negates the extra cost. Besides my turbo I got for free so can't beat that. And with my ic setup I'm not to worried about intake temps which I also built for cheap. Good resources over here lol. Plus its still just an L motor. If yhis were an RB or some more mosern swap that has better potential and flows air that well I wouldn't do anything other than a gt series or similar turbo.

 

Just an FYI, you can take a stock Nissan T3 to a turbo shop and have them rebuild / upgrade to T3/T4 for around $400 (that's what I did). If you have money burning a hole in your pocket for a $1k+ turbocharger, scrap the L28 all together and go RB26.

 

That's my dream for an s30 I may one day own...

 

Yea 350 is perfect actually (if reasonably possible) I just wouldnt want to compromise the engines integrity, with all stock internals



Thats A great suggestion! didnt even think of that. I could handle $400. You guys are mentioning some super expensive intercoolers though. But I guess thats one place you shouldnt really skim

 

Ppl have had great results with treadstone intercoolers.

 

I`m using the Isuzu NPR turbo truck big intercooler without any problems. Got it for $50.00 check your local truck yards!

 

This intercooler sounds perfect! from what I understand, isuzu made 2 different sizes in that intercooler? I wonder how much fabricating you have to do to mount that bad boy, ill have to look up the dimensions. Thank you! I dont understand why people say its expensive to get power out of these engines, the megasquirt and turbo rebuild seems to be the most expensive items so far and thats not really all that much...oh and an electronic boost controller, those things are rediculous