TURBO questions
 

ok.... i thinki may have a surprise in store for all... but i need a few parts FAST! also some info... the parts i need FAST FAST FAST are the T fittinf for the engine that is the branch off from the oil system to feed the turbo oil... also the feed line would be nice but no big. does anyone have a picture and this part/parts for me? cuase right now i finally got EVERYTHING to do a good N/A motor to turbo motor conversion except the T fitting to supply the damn turbo oil... FUDGE. rob (ktm) was helping me out but he cant get to his car, i thought i found someone to sell me this piece on hybridz but after he asked if i want the oil feed line to he hasnt responded back... go figure?

also i picked up the echaust/intake turbo gasket as well as have a head gasket coming gonna go get a new oil pan gasket to. but the place didnt carry the gaskets for the wxhaust mani to turbo and the turbo to down pipe... where would you guys recomend to purchase these?

im in a mad rush for the oil supply fitting so any one shine some light on me. if i can get this piece i may have a lil surprise for ya'll this or next weekend...
thanks ya'll....

ps. go visit the auto show thread lol

Let me guess,

You can go to MSA show and you want to get your car done in time.

Take lots of pics and show us how the conversion turns out.





Edit- you really like the auto show thread.

go to turbo accessories
http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.html

they should have them here too
http://www.atpturbo.com/

has nothing to do with MSA... has to do with a magical finish time of 2 weeks or less

cause today i went out got oil pan gasket head gasket valve cover gasket. all mobile one fluids for trans/diff (synthetic) gotta get oil still got mobil 1 oil filter exhaust/intake gasket. new cap rotor taylor hi-pro wires NGK platinum plugs new studs and nuts gonna change em all out today

then for thurs and fri gotta remove intake exhaust oil pan oil pump and then install all gaskets new oil pan old intake new exhaust turbo downpipe turbo oil pump turbo fuel rail with FPR and injectors until i get an safc to use my pallnet fuel rail with DSM injectors turbo afm remove EFI harness from engine harness but in turbo harness put in engine harness ecu turbo plumbing driveshaft and im sure a few other things im missing and im gonna have it wired professionally cause i dont have the time patience or nerve to do wiring my self... plus its threw my best friends GF's dad so im garunteed quality work and price. SCORE!

veynel thanks... but i dont know if your thinkin the same thing im thinkin of... the piece that screws onto the block of the engine i believe where the oil presssure sender unit goes (T fitting) so it taps into the pressurized oil system to feed the turbo oil. i saw T fittings and SS oil lines whihc is helpful but still not my urgent part needed

JGS should be able to give you the correct BSPT to NPT adapter and distribution block for the oil line and sender. The threads on the block is 1/8"-27 BSPT.

ahh..... k cool... man im no good at thread sizes and pitches... i know i will find a way to screw this up. i think.... i thik i need you to hold my hand on this one veynel. just tell me what i should ask from them lol. so i know im not gonna screw this one up. id much appreciate it.

You have the oil pressure sensor right? Just take that with you & ask them for a T that has all the same threads... male to the block, females on the other 2 parts.

SHUT UP! lol yeah...

why are things always easier than i think... where would you suggest taking this though out of personall experiences?

NAPA. or if you don't have any near by, go to a hardware store or go to a hose / hydraulic fittings store. There's a huge warehouse here in SLC called "EVCO House of Hose" ( goin to the ho house :D ). They have every fitting / hose I could ever think of... and that's here in the West. I'm sure IL has tons of places like that.

i got napa 5 mins away... 3 turns. 2.5 miles. lol

alright... i guess im taking my oil pressure sender with me to napa and try to find a T fitting.. this is where teh oil supply line runs from right? so whats up with the wierd fitting on teh l28et that the oil filter screw onto? is that jsut for the oil cooler? or what? i should prolly get an oil cooler huh? couldnt i run it in the same system that the turbo is gonna be on? or you guys think that would be to much?

its gonna blow up snw :D.

I spent a lot of time on Hybridz doing research on that oil feed line. those threads don't all match from what I remember. This is not something to rush.

I got most of what I needed for a brand new stainless oil feed line but ended up going with the stock one because I couldn't get all the parts to match up at the T on the block.

anyway, the local places in Washington are all run by idiots. I can't even get a plug for my intake manifold, much less a British pipe thread T block... even though the plugs I needed were only oil pan drain plugs...

what did you decide on your oil feed line? -3 all the way or -4 with a reducer at the turbo? I did the -4 with the reducer.

and I did get a BSPT plug that fit the block fine but it does not screw into any of the female connections on the T so they are not all the same thread. If they were, my setup would have been done. :(

well... i wanted to SS but honestly... it would only be for looks and jsut cause to much headache... so i need to just get the T to fit inbetweent eh sender and its mount and then make shift some way to get a high temp (radiator type) hose on the T and snuggly. no pop offs. and what the hell do you mean reducer? lol -3 -4? que? if theres anything i dont know very well its piping, threading, and electrical.


its gonna blow up e... i plan on it blowing up. i just hope its not catastrophic and just blows the rings out or the pistons fail. im not gonna push it... just 7 psi maybe 10 when intercooled... then doing a rebuild with some new forged turbo pistons and rings maybe rods to. then i can go nuts.

Eric,
Sorry I couldnt help you more, it looks like you've got everything allset though. I know it may not help now but I can get to my car this weekend for sure, so give me some details on any specific pictures you might need.

Good luck

umm... i got the T made up.... so now worry about that. but now i got a wiring harness problem... i got the ECU and harness turbo ones, but the connector for the TPS is either different or ****in gone... there is a plug by the injectors that is round has 4 prongs dont what that sh!t is for... and yeah, stuff doenst seem to match up. i mean, besides a knock sensor and boost sensor plug i figured teh harness connectors would be the same. idk im pissed about it and not sure what i want to do now....

pics!!!! you should know that by now snowy

So you have a turbo harness and ECU? The tps should be the same either way. Its been a while since I have messed with my stock harness so late me think about this. I think the round one is for the distibutor?

Ohh ya like Skittle said......
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...picsorgtfo.jpg

haha... you like that guy... well i have been talking to nismopick... and assuming the turbo and NA ignitor's are the same just in a different location i do need a turbo distributor and a turbo TPS... so can any one help a bro out? and i need the whole distributor (82 or 83) with shaft and the internal cas all that jaz.

so seriously.. if any one i mean ANY ONE! ( i know bleach has an extra motor sittin aroun ;) ) but really... i thought all my part scavaging was done... and i was wrong i need those 2 things... that should be it all stuff will be said and done... so i need help UBER fast. thanks for anyone with some answers.

You wanna send me shipping $$$ and I will have it out tomorow or saturday. Its from an 83' turbo, exactly what you need.

TPS and distributor???? no shit ???? i can send out shipping money as soon as i get my money from teh ECU im selling should have it tommorow? dude youll be a life saver

you'll have more money from the trim too hahahahah

So you need a tps also? Do you want me to just send an entire throttle body or do you need the plug? I may not have the plug. For the distributor its in super nice shape, just throw a new cap/rotor on it to be safe. Just let me know exactly what you need and I will throw em in a box and get the shipping wheight.

Rob

^^^ woot woot! SNW's getting the "hook up" :D

TPS is the same. NA has three positions but the 3rd position is unused when installed on a turbo engine.
Little known fact: Bleach is using an NA TPS on his turbo engine (-5hp) :D

You need the entire 1982-83 distributor. The round plug will go to the dizzy.

Also, Nissan recomends to replace your turbo oil feed line every 100K miles and/or every time you replace the turbo. That is why I'm replacing mine with a SS unit. Then I can just swap out the SS line with a new $40 line each time I want to replace it. Of course, buying all the end connectors is another $40 and a big hassle... I haven't even gotten back to that project so I'm still using the old Nissan steel line.
A new stock steel oil feed line from Nissan is about $85

well... i hear the TPS no work so hot with turbo... so if you got it KTM i guess send it but more interested in the distributor and i hapen to have a new cap rotor NGK plugs and taylor hi-pro wires :D. you wouldnt happen to have a spare turbo coil with ignitor on it still by chance woulda ya ktm? and thanks you saved me from suicide lol... but seriously... haha

sorry I only have the distributor, Im going to go find it right now

thanks a billion... i need it since my car doesnt have the internal distributor so according to nismo and i believe him... it wont run lol

But the fact that bleach is the one that owns the turbo with -5hp PRICELESS :075:

hey, since it used to be NA i have a cold start valve, if i obviously dont plug it in and use a turbo fuel rail, it will be fine right? it wont do anything will it just sitting there other than hold the vacumme, and i realized something today, the guy i got the ZX from said it had a bad FPR on it, well, i think the problem was that it didnt have a FPR on it lol. goof thing ktm sent me his old fuel rail. i dont know how he has all these parts! lol.


oh and also, other than being in a diff place, is there any difference between the turbo and NA ignitor?

oh one more thing... has any one here removed the oil pan with the engine in teh car? it looks doable but at the same time it looks liek it could be some trouble. cause i need to change oil pans plus i got a new gasket for that shizzle.... and changing the head gasket looks like it might be a little more work than i thought. lol.... and removing the original gasket from the vavle cover was a bitch.... holy hell! but i did it.

Yes the cold start valve will be fine as a plug in the intake manifold. You can also hook it up later to add fuel to your dry nitrous setup :D

I tried to remove the oil pan with the engine in the car. I was unsuccesful. I unbolted the engine mounts and lifted the engine until the transmission hit the top of the tunnel... still not enough room to get it out from around the oil pickup. But, I was able to work the new gasket in there. That was the point fo shizzzle

Oh shizzles :icon_oak:

SHIT! i need to change oil pans.... and i dont have a lift available....

in theory you could get a wrench in there and unbolt the oil pickup. Then remove the pan and pickup.
Set your replacement pan under the car, drop the oil pickup inside it... then with the pan under the engine (getting in your way) somehow put a new gasket on the oil pickup and bolt it on. then work the new oil pan gasket under the oil pickup (easy), set it in place and bolt the oil pan on.

Be very careful not to over torque those small bolts on teh oil pan. They don't need to be very tight, that's why there are a lot of them. I snapped a couple on my NA engine :D but I just left it as it was. It only leaked a very small amount with the new gasket. :(

nope your wrong.. slid right the **** out. maybe the s30 has a lil more clearance. but all i got left from my parts to install is the exhast (with turbo and down pipe and o3 sensor in already) and intak manifold with new gasket. a coupl vacumme houses and thats about it for the hard work... then its drive shaft a few fuel lines electrical lines run the EFI harness and find a ****in fuel pump now casue my dad thouht it would be a good idea to take mine off the ZX...... bastard. oh and install fuel rail... and await my distributor come if rob is still commin threw.. you there man? lol

Ya IM here.. just waiting on some shipping money. Do you still have my paypal info? I was just going to guestimate but I can go get a shipping quote. I will PM or something when I do.

thanks again about that and yeha just pm me about it if you want

oh ya, I forgot you post questions about an S30 in the S130 section... :rolleyes:

well its about a s130 motor sooo... i think its more in the class of s130 since its about that type of motor other than the fact it sits in the s30 chassis... dont gimme that look!

Actually, its the steering crossmember that is the issue with the oil pan so the fact that it sets in the S30 chassis is the difference.

Anyway, is that the F54 block youre turboing??? :) 8.8:1 compression. That'll be sweet as long as you're not going for really high boost.

nope nothin really high, gonna stick wtih the stock 7 psi for now, once i got my intercooler in there, ill think about approaching 10.
but yeah, only 8.8:1 compression huh? thats a pretty good CR ratio, 8.5:1 is average turbo CR but 8.8 aint far off and if anything, my shizzle will just spool faster. :D

sounds good to me. 10psi or less should be fine.

the higher compression will yield much higher horsepower per psi compared to the factory turbo engine.
I'd suggest you look into better fuel management. Megasquirt would be good but the Z31 turbo ECU swap is cheap and 'easy' (I haven't done it myself yet)

The stock ECU runs a little rich under boost anyway... but still, its a crappy system

Remember as boost increases, so does the CR. Starting at 8.8:1 CR @ 10psi you'd be somewhere around 15:1 CR. :D

MORE POWA!!!!

yea, fuel management and 92 octaine only.... listen for pinging...

meh that taint to much. but like i said, intercooled, and approach 10psi. not just gonna set it there and hope for the best. lol
and for fuel management, if im at that point and havent gotten around to megasquirt, ill get an SAFC and tehn put my pall net rail one wiht the DSM injector that my buddies got lying around from there cars, and for sure premium only, maybe ill steal my friends racing fuel lol. its like 108 octane or something around that, still unleaded. and ping, haha, lets hope we dont hear the ping, that or i could get a knock sensor and the SAFC would monitor that for me to if it starts getting redic.

hum... sounds like your engine is in good hands :paranoid:

Hey now that we have mentioned fuel. When I do do my turbo swap running stock (7psi), is the low grade allright? Or do I need to put higher grade in? Just curious, and not to jack your thread snow. But it is on your topic for the most part.:unibrow: