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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Need to boost

What parts do i need to turbocharge my N/A L28 i.e. head, ecu?
Old Oct 11, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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You don't need the head, or any other major engine parts.

You can turbocharge your N/A L28 by simply swapping the external parts, exhaust manifold, turbo, injectors, etc.

I would also get a better engine management system than the original ECU, since it's quite lacking. If you do decide to use the original ECU, you will also need the turbo dizzy.

It boils down to where you want to end up, in which original parts you will need.
Old Oct 11, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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I seriously need to make this a sticky:

Originally Posted by NismoPick
The list is thus:
-Turbocharger
-Downpipe
-Oil in & dump lines
-Oil T from pressure sensor
-Exhaust manifold
-Intake J-Pipe
-Oil pan
-Injectors
-Entire EFI harness (including all relays)
-Coil ignition harness
-ECU
-Fuel pump module
-AFM
-Distributor
-Oil pump w/ distributor shaft
-Coil bracket w/ ignitor
-Fuel pump

Optional parts that would facilitate the process:
-Intake manifold
-AAC / EGR actuator pump (only if you want those items to work)
-AFM to turbocharger accordion connector boot
-Thermostat housing w/ all sensors
-CHTS (if current chassis doesn't have one)
-TPS (n/a is 3 prong, turbo is 2 prong)


Those are all the bare essential components. If you were to buy all that individually at a junk yard, it would probably take you 20hrs+ to remove it all (the actual turbo & oil pan being the worst parts), and I imagine you'd be spending $500-$800 unless you find someone cool enough to just give you a flat rate for a wheelbarrow full of parts. I can usually source a complete L28ET (in the USA) for less than $500. I've done many motor swaps, turbo and n/a, and mixes of all... and when I say it's easier and cheaper to source a complete motor, that's because it is, but you now have the list, so I hope that helps.

Lastly, yes, you would need bigger cc injectors, and an ecu to control them... neither of which are cheap. Also, a thinner hg will up the CR a lil bit... probably not enough to make a head gasket job worth the tear down.
Old Oct 11, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Thanks for the help guys, i have considered a motor swap but with less then 42k original miles id rather stay stock....
Old Oct 11, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 76 2+2
id rather stay stock....
Turbocharging an n/a isn't "staying stock".
Old Oct 11, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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I know i meant original block & head
Old Oct 12, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Be happy with the z as is. It will last for many years.
Spend your money on maintenance.
You will be trying to sell a car that dose not run.
http://www.pape.ws/allan_and_rosanne...0Billboard.jpg
Old Oct 12, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by black gold man
Be happy with the z as is. It will last for many years.
Spend your money on maintenance.
You will be trying to sell a car that dose not run.
http://www.pape.ws/allan_and_rosanne...0Billboard.jpg
What?

My turbo (originally non turbo) Z car runs just fine.



(I also don't plan to sell mine...)
Old Oct 13, 2011 | 08:45 AM
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What?

My turbo (originally non turbo) Z car runs just fine.
Yep... and we've been over that too... you won't give any details on your " stock aka 'not-stock' " motor.
Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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I don't know about N/A to T motors, but if taken care of and done right the L28ET will be insanely reliable, just not as good on gas as the L28E. People were always amazed that I had no problems about jumping in my 83' 280ZXT and driving it hours away and back.
Old Oct 13, 2011 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
Yep... and we've been over that too... you won't give any details on your " stock aka 'not-stock' " motor.
Who says I won't give any details? I've posted build threads on other other sites.

The long block is stock, the parts bolted to the outside are mostly not OEM Nissan turbo parts.

Your thing is that you doubt a stock long block can produce 300 HP, which is your doubtful attitude. Just a little bit of research will show that the L28 can and has produced 300 HP without being opened up.
Old Nov 25, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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So there is no way to just run say 7 lbs of boost with stock internals? I understand outer accessories are needed i.e. exhaust manifold intake etc. Just out of curiosity, totally different make and model but I've had buddies who run low boost on 327's with stock internals is it the same?
Old Nov 25, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 76 2+2
So there is no way to just run say 7 lbs of boost with stock internals? I understand outer accessories are needed i.e. exhaust manifold intake etc. Just out of curiosity, totally different make and model but I've had buddies who run low boost on 327's with stock internals is it the same?
Other than the obvious...
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 76 2+2
So there is no way to just run say 7 lbs of boost with stock internals? I understand outer accessories are needed i.e. exhaust manifold intake etc. Just out of curiosity, totally different make and model but I've had buddies who run low boost on 327's with stock internals is it the same?
No its not the same. Certian n/a L28's had dished pistons while others had flat tops. Meaning compression ratio. You could turbo a flat top & run low boost but its not worth the effort for the gain as you will be dealing with a low threshold detonation to boost curve. Your 76 if stock is a dish piston engine which also may require a head swap or thicker head gasket for comfortable compression ratio.
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