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Old May 26, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Question squeeling brakes

just replaced brake pads, and rotors (new not turned).
But still have an anoying squeel when ever I use the brakes. Ive looked at the local napa and they say the can only get the cheep brand for my 77 280z. Ive checked other threds here and found sites to get high quality brakes. But my question is will the high quality brakes squeel or operate quietly. Some one told me to try organics because the semi metalics may be what cause's them to squeel.
Old May 26, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hellraZor
just replaced brake pads, and rotors (new not turned).
But still have an anoying squeel when ever I use the brakes. Ive looked at the local napa and they say the can only get the cheep brand for my 77 280z. Ive checked other threds here and found sites to get high quality brakes. But my question is will the high quality brakes squeel or operate quietly. Some one told me to try organics because the semi metalics may be what cause's them to squeel.
Did you use any disc brake quiet on the brakes? It's this stick orange "paste" that helps the pads to bond to the calipers so that they don't stick to the rotors.
Old May 27, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Cheap pads are more prone to squeal as are metallic pads, but should be ok as long as they are seated in properly.

Were there break-in instructions with the pads or rotors?

Typically, several 60 mph to 10 mph aggressive breaking sessions is enough to heat the pads and rotors to help seat-in properly.

My break-in process is as follows:

1. Find an unpopulated stretch of road with no chance of someone pulling in behind you without you noticing.

2. Get up to 60 mph and press the brakes just shy of lock-up taking the car down to 10 mph.

3. Immediately repeat step 2 two or three more times without letting the brake system cool.

This should seat the components for good wear and good performance.

I prefer brakes from KVR for racing and Satisfied Pro for normal street driving due to their quality and low noise.

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Old May 27, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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found problem

Ok found some good brake pads thanks do a different thread on this site I got the Hawk HPS Street brake pads, but now I need to find some new calipers, any sugesstions.
Old May 27, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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I went with NAPA rebuilt stock calipers, and their pads for about $90 a couple of years ago. You would need to turn in your old calipers for cores.

Other folks are installing the 83-84 Toyota Truck dual piston type calipers, and claiming better braking power over the stock calipers. I haven't tried these yet. Apparently they bolt on like your stock calipers and you use the stock Datsun rotors. Many threads on this conversion. Check it out and read up on it. Have no idea what the truck calipers would run you.

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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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I worked at a local NAPA for awhile (5 or more years ago) as a second job and picked up a set of those Toyota calipers for my brother's Z at the time. I think retail was about $120 for the pair, ballpark, about 4 or 5 years ago. If someone has a more up-to-date price, please post. The pads will not work with both the Z calipers and the Toyota calipers, so you need to get what NAPA calls the "loaded" caliper (has pads in it, just bolt the caliper on). The extent of installation difficulty is you need to bend (don't kink it!) the hardline on the car upwards about a half inch. Really, really easy. For the cores, our counter guys actually said they didn't care if I just put the old Datsun calipers in the box and turned it in! I'm not too into that, as it seems kind of dishonest, but we sent pallettes of cores back every week, and the rebuild warehouses didn't care what they were, they just reconditioned 'em and sorted them into their right part numbers. It is a very easy and cheap way to get noticeably better stopping power on the car, that's for sure.
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