johnc

Tokico vs Eibach vs any other suggestions for suspension kits. I drive 20 miles a day over a windy smooth road, (fun), and 20 more on city/highway. I've read a few comments that the spring upgrade makes for a somewhat uncomfortable ride for normal commuting. Seems though that the positives outweigh the roughness. Any opinions? thanks

NismoPick

Welcome to ZDriver!

The answer to your question depends on your personal preference. If you want a stock soft ride feeling, get stock struts / springs. If you want a tighter, more performance feel, get performance struts / springs. It's all up to you. Feel free to search as the topic "Tokico vs Eibach" has come up more than once.

SportBikeMike

Tokico here. They much improved the handling and ride of my 240Z....and looks cooler too.

theramz

I have Tokico lowering springs and shocks with all new urethane bushings. It corners like a go kart but the ride might be stiff for some. It makes ***** bounce nicely too. MSA offers a progressive spring that you might consider.

johnc

Any experiences with how significantly the urethane bushings add to the stiffness of the kit?

NismoPick

Yep... urethane bushing kits add to stiffness.

theramz

I did it all at the same time front to back including brake upgrade and strut bars. The hardest and most time consuming was the bushings. Do your how-to first and with the right tools you can do it in a couple week ends if you want to clean and paint. You could do the front one week end and the rear another if you need to drive it in between.

snwbrderphat540

omg i love the large boob bounce effect. love it love it! as for my i went with arizona Zcar springs. they actually list a spring rate and are cheaper in price but still great in quality.

theramz

The bushings won't make it any stiffer. It will give you better control when you're watching the ***** bounce out of phase in the turns so watch where your going or leave her home!

snwbrderphat540

^^^^ holy fake ******* batman!

theramz

I can hang my keys from there! The TB sucks hard too!

NismoPick

Need more pics..... NOW!

theramz

Don't mean to hijack the thread but when the MOD says more pics I send more pics! Here is Audrie selling my strut bars on ebay. #200348599372

Wanted: a few more bad girls.

snwbrderphat540

very nice how much?

theramz

She's not for sale.

snwbrderphat540

well... why not?

theramz

Mine!

snwbrderphat540

sharing is caring bro... hope you didn't pay for those twins, and if you did, well, you better be getting the best of everything every night lol.

theramz

Havn't had to shave my mustahe since, she erases it!

theramz

Okay, okay, bros before hoes. Next time she pisses me off I'll put her on a plane for IL. You buy the ticket!

snwbrderphat540

ugh... FINE! haha.

escapedan

I have a 1973 240z that I autocross in BSP. I have the Tokico Illumina 5-way adjustable shocks with Tokico springs. I also have the Energy suspension poly bushings and front/rear MSA sway bars. Finally, I have an Autopower roll bar and switch between street and race tyres. So, here's my 2 cents (for free)

Tokico Illuminas & springs - these made a HUGE difference. I cant say they are the best out there, but they do work very well. There is a very noticeable difference between the soft and hard settings and the adjustment literally takes about 5 seconds per shock. It can be done on the spot. The hard setting is very stiff - you risk breaking something if you hit a hard pothole or autocross on a rough surface.

Polyurethane Bushings - These are not easy to install, but can be done without a press. I know this because I installed all my bushings with no press. It's critical to ensure you get the stock bushing out as well as the stock outer sleeve (metal). There are quality posts with pics about how to accomplish this on this site. The bushings are a must if you are going to have quality suspension. Lets face it, 30 year old stock bushings are going to be crap. Replace them. You wont regret it and you'll feel great when you get it done yourself.

The sway bars do make a big difference keeping tires in contact with the asphalt. The rear one made a bigger difference then the front.

The rollbar was amazing. It stiffened the entire chassis and really brought the suspension together. Safety benefits and obvious coolness factor aside, this is a very solid addition to the z car.

Finally, racing on race tyres versus street tyres is going to make a huge difference. Even on a very well setup car race rubber can make a few second difference in an autocross.

All this said, my additions make for a great autocross setup, but very unforgiving daily driver. Good luck!

JayrenMychael

ok so i notice the Tokico is pretty popular, is it a pretty made to fit install or will i have to make some adjustments to make it fit, and also any information I could get on some lower control arms front and rear i would appreciate it! thanks.