Which is precicely why I would rather have a $70k Vette than a $70k GTR

 

i think it will be a sick car to buy later...after they stop making it again and it (hopefully) drops in price....its supposed to be built to compete just about even with the z06 and viper though....we will ahve to see...

 

For real, if i have to pay $70K. I woud get a new Z06. Why?

Check this out>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD08MqXOv0c

 

Can't wait to see the GTR test

 

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_w....php?id=200241

video!!!

 

Looks like it's a performer. I still bet that you won't be able to get into one for under $100k.

 

On My350Z there is a thread about the lap times from that day at Nurburgring. The GTR ran a respectable 7:58, but its nowhere near quick enough to justify the price. The new Z06 ran 10 seconds faster.

 

Quit arguing with the 350Z guys... they aren't like other Z people...

Personally, I would take the GTR over the Z06 no matter how badly the Z06 might spank it... There's more to buying and loving a car than just the paper fact sheet. Z06 is a great performing car, no doubt about it. It's still a Chevy though and that means it will inevitably screw you. Maybe after Nissan/Renault takes over GM I will feel differently


Rod

 

^^^I hope you are joking because I would feel sorry for you if you were really that stereotypical. There is more to making a good car than slapping a Nissan logo on it.

 

Only half joking,

I know that a Nissan logo by itself does not account for a great car...


I just know that I'm not a Chevy fan regardless of how great a car they might have with the Z06.

After being in the industry for almost 20 years and having had personal experience with all types of Corvettes (Z06's included) I know that quality of build has been a MAJOR issue. Just because the car is capable of great performance when it is actually working, doesn't mean it will continue to give great or any performance over the long haul. I can't bitch too much though, because Chevy's quality problems have made it possible for all 3 of my kids to go to college!

I don't want to bag too heavily on the Z06, like I said before... It has stunning stats... I just don't want one. I would prefer the more "Exotic" GTR just because of it's rarity and heritage... not to mention that I wouldn't have to get a mullet and a checker flag "Members Only" jacket like I would if I bought the Vette

Rod

 

Yeah There Are Better Cars Out There. The Gtr Is A Very Tempting Car But Its Not What The Price Tag Should Be. They Should Introduce A N/a Version For A Lower Price To Start With And Then Add The Tt Version As An Upgrade. Sort Of What Ford Did With The Gt500 .

 

Here In Vegas On The 28th On The Base They Are Doing A Zr-1 Shoot Out With An F-16. It Will Be Open To Other Cars To Do Run A Mile Long Race Against Each Other On The Runway. I'll Try To Find The Link To The Site.

 

A Z06 is just a souped up Corvette...

This is fun.

I think all this debate over a car you can't even get yet and who's stats are yet to be seen is kinda pointless. I say we ait until the thing hits the streets before we either praise it or bash it. When I pick mine up at Mossy Nissan in Escondido next year I will let you all know how I like it...


Rod

 

Rod - Obviously you worked in an industry where you saw broken Chevys all day and that is the basis behind your statements, but you would be saying the same about Nissan if you had the same job for them. I have known people who have worked at Nissan dealerships in the service department and would swear that Nissans were the worst cars made.

I think the GTR will be a great car and an incredible performer, no doubt about that. And as far as legacy goes, remember who you are arguing against in this debate. You would have to be a fool to suggest that the Corvette isn't one of the most iconic names in the automotive industry.

I am not looking for a debate here, and I respect your opinion, but its comments like this that make you completely lose all credability in my eyes...

"Quit arguing with the 350Z guys... they aren't like other Z people... "

 

I worked in an industry that saw all kinds of broken cars... not any one make in particular.

The Corvette does indeed have an historic legacy which is not to be diluted or invalidated... not my intent.

The GTR legacy, albeit somewhat shorter is impressive and valid in its own right.

Notice the after the comment you say kills my credibility... It was a joke.

I wasn't trying to make it a personal attack so... Quit acting like the guys at 3ZC and take a statement made in jest as nothing more than that.

Rod.

 

Don't get me wrong. I love to have a GTR too but if i have to pay a car around 80K-100K. I'm sure, i want this one:- 2009 Chevrolet Corvette Z07

Link >>>http://www.automobilemag.com/future_..._corvette_z07/

It will make 650hp with 7.0L SC LS7. If it use Twin Screw SC, it should make around 700tq. and if you swap pulley to make more boost. I belive, it should make around 750 - 850hp and 850- 900tq. with a car 3,100lbs?!!!

Also i belive, if you change a bigger SC. It should make over 1,000rwhp and 1,000rwtq!!! Don't forget SIZE MATTER!




Over look:

2007 Ford Shelby GT500 make 500hp tag price $45,000.

2007 Chevy Z06 make 505hp tag price $69,000.

2009 Chevy Z07 make 650hp tag price between $80K-$100K.

2008 Nissan GTR make 450hp, it won't have enough hp for a car tag price between $80k-$100k. .................................for me.

 

GM uses Eaton S/C's. They own a piece of the company. No twin-screw.

The only price you got right is the Z06. Unless you know someone, you're not touching a GT500 for less than $55K. The "Blue Devil" is going to cost over $100K (Autoweek), and according to Carlo Ghosn, the GTR's gonna cost $75K.

 

The problem with corvettes are they flood the market. Unless you get a very old one or a very new one, it's just another vette. Fords problem is that they dilute the market with so many variations that the hi-perf model gets lost in the mix and then loses some of it's value. If the GTR cant compete with the Z06 and possibly the upcoming Supra it wont matter how much it cost will it? Sure the tuners will love the car; but the majority of the cars will not be bought by tuners, but the general public who will complain that the car is not fast enough off the showroom floor.

 

That's good if GM use Eaton SC. It make 650hp with Eaton if you swap KB(Twin Screw) SC. It'll make 80+rwhp more than Eaton at the same boost.


About Shelby GT500. Trust me, no one gonna buy them untill over a year or two unless someone stupid enough.

I know couple guys work at the speedway and Shelby. They raced a 04' Cobra mod with Cat back and Intake only Vs. Stock GT500 on the freeway. Result 04' Cobra beat Stock GT500 about 2-3 cars.

Now many people are looking for 03'-04' Cobra instead.

Someone might think why? Because GT500 too heavy. It weigh 4,000lbs. You can't do much about it to bring the weight down. It doesn't like 03'-04 Cobra.

Now my 03' Cobra weight about 2,900lbs. still have AC,System Mach 460 watts,Carpets,Power windows,Power door locks....ect. If pull race trim weigh around 2,700lbs.

Also if i put my engine in a Fox body. I can make it weigh around 2,400-2,500lbs.


DO NOT BUY FORD. It's going backward.

 

you guys all talk about hey the power this corvette will make with this supercharger or this and that....but what toll are you putting on its life by boosting this motor that is made to be NA?? ?nad then if you say oh you rebuild it...the time and money and labor for pulling the motor tearing it down all the parts to reassemble it the way you want and machine work....is it still worth it in the end if you can just throw bigger injectors turbo and a remapped ecu on the skyline for probably less than half the price and get the same numbers more reliably probably as well??? now im not sayin the skyline is gonna be that easy to tune....i hear it is though....but what if......doesnt it sound like a great car for its price if thats what you plan on doing with your next purchase is to make it a speed machine? plus its AWD so that gonna account for slightly more money but perhaps faster track times due to better traction.

 

REAL cobras were made i n ther 60's.
REAL corvettes were made in the 60's--some feel 70's were 'good'also--stingray body---REAL Z's are 240's. REAL fords were GT40 and anything prior to 1960.

some chevys are excellent. some chevys suk.