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I`m voting for Oboma all the way. Then again I`m a democrat. Not that our votes matter. We are using an outdated electoral college instead of popular vote. So vote for who you will. Fact is it doesn't matter. Be sure to vote locally though. Thats where it counts.
Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
I`m voting for Oboma all the way. Then again I`m a democrat. Not that our votes matter. We are using an outdated electoral college instead of popular vote. So vote for who you will. Fact is it doesn't matter. Be sure to vote locally though. Thats where it counts.

Rod
If i were an american, i would vote for Obama. But i'm not, so i'll just encourage you all to vote for Obama. i just don't like hillary for some reason... she just dosen't have the charisma to lead a nation.
GOBAMA!
GOBAMA!
n00b question. but what type of people have we been electing lately? democrate or repub? i know its been a specific one for a while and kennedy was one of the few others we voted fo. i want to vote for a change.
did my research, weve had more republicans, and all the great presidents, at least the majority, ive noticed were democrats. we need a democrat again.
did my research, weve had more republicans, and all the great presidents, at least the majority, ive noticed were democrats. we need a democrat again.
Last edited by snwbrderphat540; Feb 7, 2008 at 06:04 PM.
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
n00b question. but what type of people have we been electing lately? democrate or repub? i know its been a specific one for a while and kennedy was one of the few others we voted fo. i want to vote for a change.
What planet you live on snw?
OK a lil history:
Recent presidents:
George W. Bush (Republican) 2000- present
Bill Clinton (Democrat) 1992-2000
Goerge H.W. Bush (Republican) 1988-1992
Ronald Reagan (Republican) 1980-1988
Jimmy Carter (Democrat) 1976-1980
Gerald Ford (Republican) 1974-1976 (after Nixon resigned because of Watergate)
Richard Nixon (Republican) 1968-1974
Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat) 1963- 1968
John F. Kennedy (Democrat) 1960-1963 (shot 11/63)
exactly!!!! look how awesome the democrat party is! they are all awesome!!!! plus thats only foing back to the 60's, we've had alot more presidents and it was just something i heard a while ago in one of my history classes. mighta been BS, but my other statement was true. democrates rock!
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
exactly!!!! look how awesome the democrat party is! they are all awesome!!!! plus thats only foing back to the 60's, we've had alot more presidents and it was just something i heard a while ago in one of my history classes. mighta been BS, but my other statement was true. democrates rock!
I actually count more Republicans in that list.....
republican list:
1856 Lost John Charles Frémont William Lewis Dayton
1860 Won Abraham Lincoln[1] Hannibal Hamlin 16th 1861-1865
1864 Won Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson[2] none 17th 1865-1869
1868 Won Ulysses Simpson Grant Schuyler Colfax 18th 1869-1877
1872 Won Henry Wilson[3]
1876 Won Rutherford Birchard Hayes William Almon Wheeler 19th 1877-1881
1880 Won James Abram Garfield[1] Chester Alan Arthur 20th 1881
Chester Alan Arthur none 21st 1881-1885
1884 Lost James Gillespie Blaine John Alexander Logan
1888 Won Benjamin Harrison Levi Parsons Morton 23rd 1889-1893
1892 Lost Whitelaw Reid
1896 Won William McKinley[1] Garret Augustus Hobart[3] 25th 1897-1901
1900 Won Theodore Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt none 26th 1901-1909
1904 Won Charles Warren Fairbanks
1908 Won William Howard Taft James Schoolcraft Sherman[3] 27th 1909-1913
1912 Lost Nicholas Murray Butler
1916 Lost Charles Evans Hughes Charles Warren Fairbanks
1920 Won Warren Gamaliel Harding[4] John Calvin Coolidge 29th 1921-1923
John Calvin Coolidge none 30th 1923-1929
1924 Won Charles Gates Dawes
1928 Won Herbert Clark Hoover Charles Curtis 31st 1929-1933
1932 Lost
1936 Lost Alfred Mossman Landon William Franklin Knox
1940 Lost Wendell Lewis Willkie Charles Linza McNary
1944 Lost Thomas Edmund Dewey John William Bricker
1948 Lost Earl Warren
1952 Won Dwight David Eisenhower Richard Milhous Nixon 34th 1953-1961
1956 Won
1960 Lost Richard Milhous Nixon Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1964 Lost Barry Morris Goldwater William Edward Miller
1968 Won Richard Milhous Nixon[5] Spiro Theodore Agnew[5] 37th 1969-1974
1972 Won
Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller 38th 1974-1977
1976 Lost Robert Joseph Dole
1980 Won Ronald Wilson Reagan George Herbert Walker Bush 40th 1981-1989
1984 Won
1988 Won George Herbert Walker Bush James Danforth Quayle 41st 1989-1993
1992 Lost
1996 Lost Robert Joseph Dole Jack French Kemp, Jr.
2000 Won George Walker Bush Richard Bruce Cheney 43rd 2001-present
2004 Won
democratic
1828 won Andrew Jackson John Caldwell Calhoun[1]
1832 won Martin Van Buren
1836 won Martin Van Buren Richard Mentor Johnson
1840 lost
1844 won James Knox Polk George Mifflin Dallas
1848 lost Lewis Cass William Orlando Butler
1852 won Franklin Pierce William Rufus de Vane King[2]
1856 won James Buchanan John Cabell Breckinridge
1860 lost Stephen Arnold Douglas (Northern) Herschel Vespasian Johnson
lost John Cabell Breckinridge (Southern) Joseph Lane
1864 lost George Brinton McClellan George Hunt Pendleton
1868 lost Horatio Seymour Francis Preston Blair, Jr.
1872 lost Horace Greeley[3] Benjamin Gratz Brown
1876 lost Samuel Jones Tilden Thomas Andrews Hendricks
1880 lost Winfield Scott Hancock William Hayden English
1884 won Stephen Grover Cleveland Thomas Andrews Hendricks[2]
1888 lost Allen Granberry Thurman
1892 won Adlai Ewing Stevenson
1896 lost William Jennings Bryan Arthur Sewall
1900 lost Adlai Ewing Stevenson
1904 lost Alton Brooks Parker Henry Gassaway Davis
1908 lost William Jennings Bryan John Worth Kern
1912 won Thomas Woodrow Wilson Thomas Riley Marshall
1916 won
1920 lost James Middleton *** Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1924 lost John William Davis Charles Wayland Bryan
1928 lost Alfred Emmanuel Smith Joseph Taylor Robinson
1932 won Franklin Delano Roosevelt[2] John Nance Garner
1936 won
1940 won Henry Agard Wallace
1944 won Harry S. Truman
1948 won Harry S. Truman Alben William Barkley
1952 lost Adlai Ewing Stevenson II John Jackson Sparkman
1956 lost Carey Estes Kefauver
1960 won John Fitzgerald Kennedy[4] Lyndon Baines Johnson
1964 won Lyndon Baines Johnson Hubert Horatio Humphrey
1968 lost Hubert Horatio Humphrey Edmund Sixtus Muskie
1972 lost George Stanley McGovern Thomas Francis Eagleton
Robert Sargent Shriver[5]
1976 won James Earl Carter, Jr. Walter Frederick Mondale
1980 lost
1984 lost Walter Frederick Mondale Geraldine Anne Ferraro
1988 lost Michael Stanley Dukakis Lloyd Millard Bentsen Jr.
1992 won William Jefferson Clinton Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
1996 won
2000 lost Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. Joseph Isadore Lieberman
2004 lost John Forbes Kerry John Reid Edwards
count that list, im to lazy.....
1856 Lost John Charles Frémont William Lewis Dayton
1860 Won Abraham Lincoln[1] Hannibal Hamlin 16th 1861-1865
1864 Won Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson[2] none 17th 1865-1869
1868 Won Ulysses Simpson Grant Schuyler Colfax 18th 1869-1877
1872 Won Henry Wilson[3]
1876 Won Rutherford Birchard Hayes William Almon Wheeler 19th 1877-1881
1880 Won James Abram Garfield[1] Chester Alan Arthur 20th 1881
Chester Alan Arthur none 21st 1881-1885
1884 Lost James Gillespie Blaine John Alexander Logan
1888 Won Benjamin Harrison Levi Parsons Morton 23rd 1889-1893
1892 Lost Whitelaw Reid
1896 Won William McKinley[1] Garret Augustus Hobart[3] 25th 1897-1901
1900 Won Theodore Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt none 26th 1901-1909
1904 Won Charles Warren Fairbanks
1908 Won William Howard Taft James Schoolcraft Sherman[3] 27th 1909-1913
1912 Lost Nicholas Murray Butler
1916 Lost Charles Evans Hughes Charles Warren Fairbanks
1920 Won Warren Gamaliel Harding[4] John Calvin Coolidge 29th 1921-1923
John Calvin Coolidge none 30th 1923-1929
1924 Won Charles Gates Dawes
1928 Won Herbert Clark Hoover Charles Curtis 31st 1929-1933
1932 Lost
1936 Lost Alfred Mossman Landon William Franklin Knox
1940 Lost Wendell Lewis Willkie Charles Linza McNary
1944 Lost Thomas Edmund Dewey John William Bricker
1948 Lost Earl Warren
1952 Won Dwight David Eisenhower Richard Milhous Nixon 34th 1953-1961
1956 Won
1960 Lost Richard Milhous Nixon Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
1964 Lost Barry Morris Goldwater William Edward Miller
1968 Won Richard Milhous Nixon[5] Spiro Theodore Agnew[5] 37th 1969-1974
1972 Won
Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller 38th 1974-1977
1976 Lost Robert Joseph Dole
1980 Won Ronald Wilson Reagan George Herbert Walker Bush 40th 1981-1989
1984 Won
1988 Won George Herbert Walker Bush James Danforth Quayle 41st 1989-1993
1992 Lost
1996 Lost Robert Joseph Dole Jack French Kemp, Jr.
2000 Won George Walker Bush Richard Bruce Cheney 43rd 2001-present
2004 Won
democratic
1828 won Andrew Jackson John Caldwell Calhoun[1]
1832 won Martin Van Buren
1836 won Martin Van Buren Richard Mentor Johnson
1840 lost
1844 won James Knox Polk George Mifflin Dallas
1848 lost Lewis Cass William Orlando Butler
1852 won Franklin Pierce William Rufus de Vane King[2]
1856 won James Buchanan John Cabell Breckinridge
1860 lost Stephen Arnold Douglas (Northern) Herschel Vespasian Johnson
lost John Cabell Breckinridge (Southern) Joseph Lane
1864 lost George Brinton McClellan George Hunt Pendleton
1868 lost Horatio Seymour Francis Preston Blair, Jr.
1872 lost Horace Greeley[3] Benjamin Gratz Brown
1876 lost Samuel Jones Tilden Thomas Andrews Hendricks
1880 lost Winfield Scott Hancock William Hayden English
1884 won Stephen Grover Cleveland Thomas Andrews Hendricks[2]
1888 lost Allen Granberry Thurman
1892 won Adlai Ewing Stevenson
1896 lost William Jennings Bryan Arthur Sewall
1900 lost Adlai Ewing Stevenson
1904 lost Alton Brooks Parker Henry Gassaway Davis
1908 lost William Jennings Bryan John Worth Kern
1912 won Thomas Woodrow Wilson Thomas Riley Marshall
1916 won
1920 lost James Middleton *** Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1924 lost John William Davis Charles Wayland Bryan
1928 lost Alfred Emmanuel Smith Joseph Taylor Robinson
1932 won Franklin Delano Roosevelt[2] John Nance Garner
1936 won
1940 won Henry Agard Wallace
1944 won Harry S. Truman
1948 won Harry S. Truman Alben William Barkley
1952 lost Adlai Ewing Stevenson II John Jackson Sparkman
1956 lost Carey Estes Kefauver
1960 won John Fitzgerald Kennedy[4] Lyndon Baines Johnson
1964 won Lyndon Baines Johnson Hubert Horatio Humphrey
1968 lost Hubert Horatio Humphrey Edmund Sixtus Muskie
1972 lost George Stanley McGovern Thomas Francis Eagleton
Robert Sargent Shriver[5]
1976 won James Earl Carter, Jr. Walter Frederick Mondale
1980 lost
1984 lost Walter Frederick Mondale Geraldine Anne Ferraro
1988 lost Michael Stanley Dukakis Lloyd Millard Bentsen Jr.
1992 won William Jefferson Clinton Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
1996 won
2000 lost Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. Joseph Isadore Lieberman
2004 lost John Forbes Kerry John Reid Edwards
count that list, im to lazy.....
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
23 republicans
20 democrats. and the replucian party didnt even start till the late 1850's so even that there says somethin somethin.
20 democrats. and the replucian party didnt even start till the late 1850's so even that there says somethin somethin.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
n00b question. but what type of people have we been electing lately? democrate or repub? i know its been a specific one for a while and kennedy was one of the few others we voted fo. i want to vote for a change.
did my research, weve had more republicans, and all the great presidents, at least the majority, ive noticed were democrats. we need a democrat again.
did my research, weve had more republicans, and all the great presidents, at least the majority, ive noticed were democrats. we need a democrat again.
this country hasnt had a terrific president since george washington....fsr started this decline we are in and the likes of hitlery and her foul hubby and the peanut farmer and johnsona nd all the reast----jfk got us into nam----so who sez he was any good......i say burn all politiciands and start over---there is waaay too much corruption and weirdness in th egovt---starting with the pay they feel they have ot earn----but they donot,....hail-----much of ther national debtr could be cured by ridding the pay rates of congress and senate.....they only made 1000/annum in 1776-----retro the pay and start over---itz not like they NEED the dough they are keeping from the nation......yes, they get paid out of the national budget.....waaaayyyy too much----their income is not EARNED, but stolen......
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im down with republicans. up with democrates. know what, i just want bill clinton back. he was a bad *** and a good president. who cares if he boinked some *****? lol. that reflects maybe poorly on his personal love life, but not as a president.
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
awww. want some soup? it good for you.
Yes. And a bucket for when I vomit it back up. And also someone to come finish my turbo swap so its done when I am over the flu. And a massage.
Ever since I can remember, every single president elected gets bashed once they're in office. Not a single one changes anything for this country.
It doesn't matter who gets elected next. Not everyone will be happy. so no, not all the democrats have been awesome. That's just what your parents tell you.
It doesn't matter who gets elected next. Not everyone will be happy. so no, not all the democrats have been awesome. That's just what your parents tell you.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
im down with republicans. up with democrates. know what, i just want bill clinton back. he was a bad *** and a good president. who cares if he boinked some *****? lol. that reflects maybe poorly on his personal love life, but not as a president.
so, you LIKE that billy bob GAVE to china, yes, red and commie pinko china....our biggest opposition many strategic areas thwithin the boundaries of this nation.....not publicized as was the dubai in our ports fiasco.......among other foul and anti-american things done before his tenure in the white house----as in throwing rocks at the us embassy in london in 1969., and his bitch, hitlery's presidency of the students for a democratic society(full-on commuinist organization bent on destroying the usa as we knew it at one time.....)............are you certain you are not anti-american??????
just checking. one must remember the cycles and circles of history in order to be up with the ones who do not wish sucess for this nnation that once was great.....
our forefathers are spinnijng in their graves.....not justy turning over......and NO, i am NOT affiliated with ANY party. my ancestors founded this nation and there is some awful rotten sh** going on to kill the once great and once free nation we had...........there is NO good politician.....never was. politicians are out for themselves and what they can get from the special interests thT RUN THIS NATION AT THIS TIME----INSURANCE LOBBY, AMA LOBBY, OIL COMPANY LOBBY. ETC....
there never was any such thing as democracy---this place was set up as a republic....landowners were the special interests back then-----corporate bs has taken over and ruined this place sooooo bad.....and there are no politicians willing nor able to set it straIGHT AGAIN-----TOO MMCH GREED...........GREED RUINS EVERYTHING.
so-----vote, vote, vote------let's see what we end up with as rome burns----bush is fiddling-----rename him nero.......
3 cheers for the red-whiter and blue----as messed up as they have made it, it is still better than moast of the alternatives----for the next 5 minutes we still do have freedom of expression......wooooooohooooooo----
anywhere else, we would all be in prison----as political prisoners.....forever.....

Last edited by z-hag; Feb 7, 2008 at 07:18 PM.
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
anti-american? it made good relations didnt it? it made a better economy didnt it? and what was so bad about clinton, i remember a good time when he was in office.
Snw, you were in the 4th grade. Better economy? we went into a recession in March, 2000. Good relations? The WTC was bombed in '93, The USS Cole was bombed and so was the American embassy in Africa and all Slick ***** did was fire a random missile at an aspirin factory. Good relations for the terrorists maybe.....
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
anti-american? it made good relations didnt it? it made a better economy didnt it? and what was so bad about clinton, i remember a good time when he was in office.


i dont like hilary, already said that, i liked bill. and i remember 1991 when the original bush was in office and we were in the first war over in iraq and bush actually had a reason to be there and they lost sadam cause they were dumb asses.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
i dont like hilary, already said that, i liked bill. and i remember 1991 when the original bush was in office and we were in the first war over in iraq and bush actually had a reason to be there and they lost sadam cause they were dumb asses.
he didnot.......there is such thing as propaganda----noise made when some ijit gets greedy while in orifice.............misinformation and disinformation are very very common and the way of politics and this downfall of this country, as the politicians are taking it all.......follow the trails, sugah.......do not be naive.......do not believe the spew coming from the mouths of the wannabe presidentes......so much bs covering even more bs......and they "lost" sodom because they wanted to lose sodom........
Last edited by z-hag; Feb 7, 2008 at 08:11 PM.
real reason? no, but they actually found the weapons that time (supposedly) that they werent suppose to have. so more of a reason than currently. also, sadam actually got those weapons from us, bush i believe also. we actually gave them the wapons cause we wanted them to use it on a county we werent so happy with. yeah, that plan was air tight huh? worked real well. plus, im really sick of liberal hippy duesch'es


