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Bleach 01-11-2008 02:23 PM

Time to do some work: Is this ok?
 
Are we allowed to change the oil on our 350Z's or do we have to take it to a shop? :paranoid:

snwbrderphat540 01-11-2008 02:40 PM

seriously?????


oil changes dont void warranty last time i checked. lol. if yours is even under warranty still

Bleach 01-11-2008 03:26 PM

lol :D

my warranty is good until April 2009 or 30,000 miles or something...

hoov100 01-11-2008 03:31 PM

just make sure to add that extra quart!

snwbrderphat540 01-11-2008 03:32 PM

pffft.... just use water. its cheaper

entropy31 01-11-2008 05:54 PM

i heard you can use fudge. oh, and let's do a port and polish on our Zs this weekend bleach. i know where to get sand cheap!

SportBikeMike 01-11-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
Are we allowed to change the oil on our 350Z's or do we have to take it to a shop? :paranoid:

I would go ahead and do it yourself. I would just keep receipts of the oil and filter you used just to be safe. And get ready to set aside an hour the first time you do it (thats what it took me anyway). Theres a 14 bolt plastic panel you have to remove to get to the plug and filter (its real easy after that). Also, a good idea to replace the crush washer everytime you change the oil.

entropy31 01-11-2008 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
I would go ahead and do it yourself. I would just keep receipts of the oil and filter you used just to be safe. And get ready to set aside an hour the first time you do it (thats what it took me anyway). Theres a 14 bolt plastic panel you have to remove to get to the plug and filter (its real easy after that). Also, a good idea to replace the crush washer everytime you change the oil.

lol, you must be new here....:D

SportBikeMike 01-11-2008 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by entropy31
lol, you must be new here....:D

Oh....I thought he was serious.:102:

snwbrderphat540 01-11-2008 06:25 PM

hmmmm



on that extra quart idea from hoov. yeah, dont do that. to much oil and you do bad things, of coarse, im sure you knew that bleach. the real answer is, run the car after adding recomended amount then check the oil level to be centered on the dipstick line.

Niku-Sama 01-11-2008 06:29 PM

well if he needs more oil pressure he can add the extra quart

Bleach 01-13-2008 07:57 PM

Hoov may be referring to the oil consumption problem that most 2003 and 2006 engines have. After 6000 miles mine does not seem to have that issue... so far. I'll be keeping a close eye on it though.

NismoPick 01-13-2008 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Niku-Sama
well if he needs more oil pressure he can add the extra quart

So that's the key to high oil pressure? Just keep adding oil? :D If I want REALLY high oil pressure, do I add 10 quarts?

snwbrderphat540 01-13-2008 10:18 PM

lol... right... no hoov likes the extra quart cause of oil slosh he thinks on super tight turns over and over it will get oil starvation cause he said his buddies VW did it once. but unfortunatly too much oil is alot more stress on the crank and such and will blow bearings

Niku-Sama 01-14-2008 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by NismoPick
So that's the key to high oil pressure? Just keep adding oil? :D If I want REALLY high oil pressure, do I add 10 quarts?


yea sure, 10 quarts in a 5 quart systme would get you what? 500psi idle?

sounds like plenty to me

Z33Driver 01-14-2008 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bleach
Are we allowed to change the oil on our 350Z's or do we have to take it to a shop? :paranoid:

My tire pressure has been low lately. Can I fill it up or should I take it to the shop? :confused:

snwbrderphat540 01-14-2008 09:31 AM

seriously? ^^^^ no like.... really? or is that sarcasm to the "can i change my oil" question?



just in case, yes, yes you can. you can do any maintanence that doesnt require a certified mechanic to complete the work for another person. shop work. like wheel bearings, exhaust stuff, anything electrical other than lights and fuses. body damage. what not.

NismoPick 01-14-2008 09:39 AM

Just to clarify (for those who have never bought a new car) there are plenty of cheesy rules you must follow to keep the factory warranty from being voided. Try reading the super fine print someday... you will be amused.

My sis in law just bought a new Hyundai... their 100k mile warranty is voided if they take the car TO ANY NON-HYUNDAI REPAIR / SERVICE SHOP. That includes a quick oil change at JiffyLube. And we all know how cheap Dealer services are... Makes ya wanna smile eh? :D

Z33Driver 01-14-2008 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by NismoPick
Just to clarify (for those who have never bought a new car) there are plenty of cheesy rules you must follow to keep the factory warranty from being voided. Try reading the super fine print someday... you will be amused.

My sis in law just bought a new Hyundai... their 100k mile warranty is voided if they take the car TO ANY NON-HYUNDAI REPAIR / SERVICE SHOP. That includes a quick oil change at JiffyLube. And we all know how cheap Dealer services are... Makes ya wanna smile eh? :D

The dealer cannot make such a requirement unless they provide the service free of charge.

Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
“No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumers using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade or corporate name....” (15 U.S.C. 2302(C)).
Also, Per the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act "tie-in" sales are not allowed.


Understanding the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
"Tie-In Sales" Provisions
Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision would require a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to use with the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The following are examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions.

Example:
In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled
maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance
Company, Inc., voids this warranty.
Understanding the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act

Edited: to add quote from Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Bleach 01-14-2008 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Z33Driver
My tire pressure has been low lately. Can I fill it up or should I take it to the shop? :confused:

You can fill it up as long as you don't get your clothes or hands dirty in the process. Remember, you own a 350Z now... :048:

I suggest just going to a dealership

Z33Driver 01-14-2008 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bleach
You can fill it up as long as you don't get your clothes or hands dirty in the process. Remember, you own a 350Z now... :048:

I suggest just going to a dealership

I think I will take it to the dealer, I only want OEM quality air in my tires.

snwbrderphat540 01-14-2008 01:19 PM

real places dont use air in their tires. can you guess what should be in there?


and final jeopardy begins.

NismoPick 01-14-2008 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
real places dont use air in their tires. can you guess what should be in there?

Nitrogen... real hard one. :D

snwbrderphat540 01-14-2008 01:47 PM

i know, but alot of people dont know why. takers? no google allowed

Bleach 01-14-2008 01:54 PM

NISMO air > Nitrogen

NismoPick 01-14-2008 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
NISMO air > Nitrogen

+2hp.............

Z33Driver 01-14-2008 02:02 PM

NISMO air > Stillen air

snwbrderphat540 01-14-2008 03:51 PM

lol, stillen is a great company, only prob is, they dont make alot of their own parts, they are just re-named and raised price japanese products. and nismo is just already really high priced japanese products. wither way, i wouldnt go with either. sept maybe stillen SMIC's for the Z32, and nismo injectors for the same car.

Bleach 01-14-2008 05:17 PM

Stillen doesn't make 'air' for the Z32 :D haha!

Bleach 02-11-2008 10:35 AM

I did it! w00t!

first oil change done and my car still runs.... amazing. This aint no L28 fooz!

oil changes are actually pretty easy to do. The splash shield fully protects the engine which is nice. Keeps it super clean. The oil filter is really easy to get to on this engine and it doesn't leak oil on the engine mount when removed. (like the L28)
this car is just so low even with stock springs.... :D

SportBikeMike 02-11-2008 10:57 AM

Allright!:038:

Yeah oil changes are very easy once you get that shield off....and thats not hard just time-consuming. My car has been lowered and has a body kit but I have no trouble getting it up on the low profile Rhino ramps. Reminds me...she's due for an oil change next month.:)

snwbrderphat540 02-11-2008 01:31 PM

nice thing about the Z32 when i had it was it was a full splash shield down there to, but they had openings molded in them for access to the oil drain plug and oil filter so you didnt have to remove anything.

NismoPick 02-11-2008 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
The oil filter is really easy to get to on this engine and it doesn't leak oil on the engine mount when removed. (like the L28)

Hey... I have a filter adapter for the oil cooler... no spillage when I change the oil either! :D

Bleach 02-11-2008 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
nice thing about the Z32 when i had it was it was a full splash shield down there to, but they had openings molded in them for access to the oil drain plug and oil filter so you didnt have to remove anything.

there is a hole you can drain the oil from but its just a little too small for me to remove the filter through. Kinda strange. Maybe I should just buy a K&N oil filter. Those last forever :D

KasbeKZ 02-11-2008 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
nice thing about the Z32 when i had it was it was a full splash shield down there to, but they had openings molded in them for access to the oil drain plug and oil filter so you didnt have to remove anything.

there's a splash shield under the engine??!!

snwbrderphat540 02-11-2008 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
there is a hole you can drain the oil from but its just a little too small for me to remove the filter through. Kinda strange. Maybe I should just buy a K&N oil filter. Those last forever :D

pffft. if your gonna do that just make your own FRAM rip off. aka cardboard stuffed in a jug. lol


and yeah dude, there is a splash shield, splastic one, covers a good area under the engine. dont you have one?

KasbeKZ 02-11-2008 05:21 PM

no... i might want to look into that... mine would probably break anyway from all the oil and PS fluid that dripping into it! lol jkjk

SportBikeMike 02-27-2008 06:55 PM

Hey Bleach, how often do you plan on changing the oil on the 350? I generally change mine twice a year.....but since I only put 4,000-5,000 miles a year on the car and I use synthetic oil, I wonder if once a year is enough? Anyone have any opinions on this?

Bleach 02-28-2008 08:44 AM

Right now I'm not using synthetic. I plan to change it every 5000 miles.
I will probably drive less than 10,000 miles a year.

In my truck I run synthetic (since the original owner did since new) and change the oil and filter every 10k miles. K&N oil filters only on that one. They are made to last longer.

snwbrderphat540 02-28-2008 03:47 PM

change every 3 months or 3k miles. if its in the tank longer and you dont put much on it, the oil starts to build moisture since it doesnt get hot and also it wil start to create acids in the oil from sitting. just happens.

SportBikeMike 02-28-2008 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
change every 3 months or 3k miles. if its in the tank longer and you dont put much on it, the oil starts to build moisture since it doesnt get hot and also it wil start to create acids in the oil from sitting. just happens.

Do you think it should be changed every 3 mos. even if I only put 4000 miles a year on the car? Wouldn't every six months be sufficient? (remember its synthetic...)

Bleach 02-28-2008 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
it wil start to create acids in the oil from sitting. just happens.

I'm convinced!

but I'm not taking your advice. I'll stick to my plan.

Z33Driver 02-29-2008 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
change every 3 months or 3k miles. if its in the tank longer and you dont put much on it, the oil starts to build moisture since it doesnt get hot and also it wil start to create acids in the oil from sitting. just happens.

What are you basing this from? Do you have a link with some facts. Most synthetic oils are capable of using an extended oil change interval, usually around 5k-7.5k miles. The 3 month/3k miles change interval is usually for dino oils. In either case there is only one way to truely know how long your can extend your oil change interval. You have to get a used oil analysis with a TBN test. You can get one done at Blackstone Laboratories.


Originally Posted by SportBikeMike
Do you think it should be changed every 3 mos. even if I only put 4000 miles a year on the car? Wouldn't every six months be sufficient? (remember its synthetic...)

You will be fine with only one oil change per year with the amount of miles you put on the car. You said you change twice a year, which is definately on the safe side. If you want to know how long you can go between oil changes, then you need to get a TBN test done. That's the only definative way of knowing, everything else is just conjecture.

snwbrderphat540 02-29-2008 09:17 AM

hmmm. from maintanence class maybe. i wouldnt just make that up, and if its being tought in college, im sure there mechanics/teacher didnt make it up either. i wouldnt let oil sit for any longer than 5 months.

NismoPick 02-29-2008 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
hmmm. from maintanence class maybe. i wouldnt just make that up, and if its being tought in college, im sure there mechanics/teacher didnt make it up either. i wouldnt let oil sit for any longer than 5 months.

Synthetic is different than conventional. You should check into it. :D Synthetic oil rocks... been proven for years now. Like Z33Driver said... you can go 5k-7k miles no prob, and longer if needs be.

Bleach 02-29-2008 09:26 AM

its not completely sitting. I drive the car every week. My Z has sat for probably 4 days unused at the most.

for me it'll probably be an oil change every 6 months.

snwbrderphat540 02-29-2008 09:32 AM

synthetic will be different as far as the acids go yes, i can agree to that, but moisture build up from not be driven/getting hot will be the same. every week should be aight though.

Z33Driver 02-29-2008 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
hmmm. from maintanence class maybe. i wouldnt just make that up, and if its being tought in college, im sure there mechanics/teacher didnt make it up either. i wouldnt let oil sit for any longer than 5 months.

I'm not saying your making it up from nowhere. I'm sure your basing your opinion off of something. My point is that all you are really stating is your opinion, which is based off of conjecture. If you want objective data, then you need a used oil analysis which will tell you how your specific oil in your specific car is performing. As far as extended oil changes, a TBN analysis will tell you that. I gave a link in my previos post on how to get one.

snwbrderphat540 02-29-2008 12:11 PM

yeah not worth payin money to get my old oil checked when i pay 10k a year at college and get told that. oh and its aviation maintanence, something taken much more seriously than auto mobile maintainance so im sure they have checked that, nothing is made up in the aviation world, excpet the FAA stamp of aproval on parts, thats BS. lol

KasbeKZ 02-29-2008 12:58 PM

is that a hint of superiority i hear in your voice there? too good for cars now mr. aviator????


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