derekinthez

I thought this thread was about headers?

JohnnyB350Z

Here is a link for the HKS replica cat back true dual exhaust, great price, sounds great and you are not paying for the name of HKS, you are paying for the same product with out the name. http://www.invision350z.com/product-p/cb-n350z.htm

Z33Driver

Here's a link for some nice Rolex replicas. They look great and tell time like the real one and you are not paying for the name of Rolex, you are paying for the a device that tells the exact same time as the real one.

JohnnyB350Z

There is no difference with the XO2 and the HKS, they are identical. they just dont say "HKS" on it. Ive done research, why pay 1,500 for the HKS when you can pay 550 for the X02 and the X02 is identical.

JohnnyB350Z

Its just bragging rights. "hey man,i got the HKS exhaust!! "
Me: " thats great, i got the same thing and i didnt get raped for the price"

JohnnyB350Z

z33driver, i like your signature clip, hahaha.

Z33Driver

Exactly. I used the same logic in the previous post. Why pay 1,500+ for a real Rolex when you can get a replica that tells the exact same time for only a couple hundred bucks.

Z33Driver

Hey JohnnyB350Z, I've been thinking about getting this because it only costs a fraction of the real one. What do you think?

JohnnyB350Z

HAHA. I know what you are saying. But its just an exhaust, it isnt the whole car thats the replica, haha. Hey thoes kit cars are sweet tho. obviously they are not the real thing, but cool to look at.

Z33Driver

JohnnyB350Z

like i said, you are paying for the name, why pay for the name HKS when you can have the EXACT quality, EXACT design, nothing different. and pay 550 instead of 1,500 for a name. its stupid.

JohnnyB350Z

now i wouldnt go buy a kit car and say its a real diablo, because it isnt, im not going around saying my XO2 is a HKS, i say, its a X02. thats it.

JohnnyB350Z

i was simply telling them, you can have a exact replica of the HKS for less the price, same HP gains, Same quality, same design and you are not paying for the name of HKS.

Z33Driver

Wrong. They are not the same quality. They use different materials and the welds are not as good. You will always pay a premium for anything titanuim. If you think the HKS is expensive go check the ARC in complete titanium, costs approx. $5,000.

I am curious about the horsepower gains. I assume you have a link to dyno that you can share with us. I haven't seen one yet, so I will hold off my judgement.

JohnnyB350Z, can you talk with my girlfriend about her damn Louis Vuitton. They have replicas that hold your stuff exactly the same as the real thing, but she just doesn't get the picture.

snwbrderphat540

PFFFTTT.... ANTHING from ARC is going to be expensive. lol. they are like a ently of performance parts lol



EDIT: also, anything thats cheap is NEVER the same quality.... unless we talk about stillen. cause they just rip off japanese companies and then sell them here for twice the price with their name on it so if we were talking about a stillen exhaust knock off for the same quality cheaper price, then i could believe it. parts research even by professional magazines show the deterioration in quality with knock off prices. search on google you'll find the articles.

JohnnyB350Z

I wont lie, you might be right on that aspect. ( material ) I will admit when i am wrong, i just dont see the point of paying 1,500 for an exhaust. HP gains are the same. I do not have dyno sheets for them, but when i was looking up the info on them they said they are the same @ my350z.com ( subject: XO2 exhaust )

Im just saying, for this subject, not as purses, real diablo's vs kit car ones go.

you only get about what, 10-15hp for a catback exhaust. when you add the headers, cold air intake, plenum spacer, high flowcats then the catback exhaust, you get more HP gains in total.

why pay 1,500-5,000 for a 10-15hp gain product. is what im getting at.

550 is fine by me. go to youtube.com and get sound and video clips for the XO2 exhaust, its a really nice product.

JohnnyB350Z

I wont lie, you might be right on that aspect. ( material ) I will admit when i am wrong, i just dont see the point of paying 1,500 for an exhaust. HP gains are the same. I do not have dyno sheets for them, but when i was looking up the info on them they said they are the same @ my350z.com ( subject: XO2 exhaust )

Im just saying, for this subject, not as purses, real diablo's vs kit car ones go.

you only get about what, 10-15hp for a catback exhaust. when you add the headers, cold air intake, plenum spacer, high flowcats then the catback exhaust, you get more HP gains in total.

why pay 1,500-5,000 for a 10-15hp gain product. is what im getting at.

550 is fine by me. go to youtube.com and get sound and video clips for the XO2 exhaust, its a really nice product.

snwbrderphat540

true ^^^^ but HKS also dyno' tests all their products and designed them for the best possible HP gains. the other company just saw the design and copied it from simple patterns of sight. no research put into it, so likely, it wont perform AS well either, but in the end it wont be significant difference either.

JohnnyB350Z

you might be right on that also, i wont argue that. Ive only heard good things about the X02 and the sound is awesome too. so im a happy camper with the product.

snwbrderphat540

thats all that TRULY matters. not like your professionally racing the car. HKS exhaust for the Z32 though is only like 600 so :P


now if only i still had a Z32

JohnnyB350Z

https://www.zdriver.com/forums/attac...1&d=1201637622
XO2.jpg

Z33Driver

Most of the aftermarket parts for the Z are expensive. Was your previous car a Civic?

Sorry, I don't see the difference. It's the exact same logic. If it's good for the geese it's good for the gander.

$550 isn't exactly cheap, especially considering that you spent that much for a fake.

JohnnyB350Z

i like the XO2, i like the HKS, i rather put my extra 1,000 toward something else like engine parts or brake kit or rims. ya know.

JohnnyB350Z

no my previous car was not a civic, haha.

77 Firebird, 4spd. 400ci. flowmasters, 15x8 f, 15x12 r (creggars ). ( SOLD )
78 nova, auto, hurst floor slap shifter, 600edelbrock carb, 350ci, bored 30 over, flowmasters, 15x8 f, 15x10 rears. ( sold )
92 prelude SI with 4 wheel steering. just an AEM cold air intake. ( sold )
98 eclipse ( stolen )
88 crown vic, LTD. ( sold )

Z33Driver

I was pretty damn close.

Here's something right up your alley. Instead of spending 10k for a turbo you can get this for $120.