i want to have a bad *** z and i want to know what is good to buy so i can kill all the kids in their gay *** ricer vehicles

 

this is what I would want....i think its best combo (in my mind keeping it all nissan)
A 240z with a upgraded turbo 280zx engine in it.
this is what I would get, because it will keep it all nissan.

 

What Z do you have?

 

I just put a 355 small block Chevy with a wild cam and loud exhaust in mine. Now, all the ricers in town are afraid to run against me. Keeps me in good standing with the local law enforcement as well (no tickets).

 

79 280 z non turbo

 

Your car can probably kill most all those ricers as it sets right now.
Going turbo will make your car faster than even late model V6 cars. You can be faster than a new 350Z with only a couple grand into a new engine.

You've got another post on a turbo swap so I guess you've done some reading. I think swapping in a 280zx turbo engine is best. You can piece together an engine using non-turbo parts but you'll want to rebuild it if it has more than 90K miles.

How fast do you want to go? 170, 200, 250, 300hp?

You can do some mods to make your non-turbo pretty quick. It'll be easier that way and almost as much money. If you are young and this is your first experience with cars you might want to just keep the non-turbo for a while. (especially if this is your only car)

 

hey let me in on that intel... ive got a NA car what can i do to get maximum hp out of it without putting a small block into it.... i simply refuse to put any engine thats not L28 series, just isnt a Z car anymore if ya do that, its about rebuild time anyways, probly get another 50-60k out of it so while i got it tore down, what should i look into makin it into a screamer as well as a daily driver...
BTW i bought this car for the sole purpose of killing civics

 

If the sole purpose of killing Civics is your goal...done. If the Civics are modded to hell, so what? Lose to 'em by a second. Your car is over 20 years old with NO TECH. Hell, I lost to a heavily modded Prelude by a second on a 1/4 track and I have an exhaust leak, crappy suspension, AND I missed 2nd gear. He won't race me now.

 

but you dont understand, im in a military town and 90% of the army guys here who buy new cars, buy a hinda civic or a dodge neon or a similar car and mod the hell out of them, i dont want to just beat them.... i want to hurt their feelings, i want them to get pissed off when they get beat by a car thats older than them... you see my purpose?

so, any ideas on what internals i shoud put into an L28E when i rebuild this spring?

 

http://www.rebelloracing.com/eng_info.htm

The "Big-Bore" 3.2 Liter

* Using the diesel crankshaft and special block preparation this long rod combination is a real torque monster.
* 300+ hp and 270+ lbs torque is obtainable with cylinder head work, camshaft and induction/exhaust system.

This engine is sold ONLY as a complete assembly.

(Includes block, crank and rod cores. Customer supplies cylinder head.)

I believe the going rate for this engine from Rebello is about $9000.

Or

$3500 for a built L28ET running about 15psi w/IC and ~320hp / 360ft/lbs.

You do the math.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed building my 2.953L L28 NA and it was really fun and I enjoyed beating up on stock turbo cars... Then I got pissed when I lost to a NON-stock turbo car with 1/4 the money in their upgrades than I had in mine...

 

wow, I'm in the same boat as you guys. I just purchased a 280 zx and want to get more performance our of it to smoke the living hell outa those civics, but I don't have enough money to do a whole engine swap. Are there any cheap modifications that can be done to get a good boost in performance.

O, and btw this is my car I just bought this last weekend. So excited about it Their is something strange though. The seller claims my 280 non turbo zx has 170 horsepower. I don't know if there's any truth in that though. I think he may have gotten confused with the specs of a turbo 280

Edit: can someone please o god help me out with this image thing. it's really irritating me. I have my own host and I know how to do the img tag, but it's not working. It also says img code is off??? anyone know how to turn it off. It's obviously not the whole forum that has it disabled because you guys seem to be posting pics just fine. I think I know the prob know. The thread starter must have it disable

 

For fuel injected engines, take the head off. Shave the head if a P79. If you have the older engine, install flat top pistons with no head shaving. Shaved head install with new timing chain kit at position #2 on sprocket.
Longer duration cam (stage 2)

mild porting on intake ports on head. Match the porting to runnings in manifold. Larger throttle body, port match manifold to throttle. Turbo AFM housing with non-turbo electronics inside. K&N cone filter.

On the exhaust side, headers and 2.25 or 2.5" exhaust. High flow cat or no cat. Some muffler. Straight through Dynomax is ok.

4.11 rear with stock tire size or 3.9 rear with 215/50/15 tires. (or equivalent)

5-speed is a must.

I'm sure there are many other little tweaks to do, but these are the basics to look into. Cams work better with larger ports and must have higher compression. The more radical the cam, the higher the compression you need.

Lose some weight. MSA Aero kit II fiberglass bumpers. Remove crash bumper underneath. Remove A/C and cruise control systems.

 

No. The cheap bolt-ons don't hardly do anything.

K&N Filter up front and a changed muffler (or catback exhaust) together will get you only 5-7hp increase at the wheels IF your engine runs excellent like it is brand new. Hotter coil, new spark plug wires, and spark plugs is only a tune-up. It doesn't really add power.

Still, that's a couple hundred bucks for all that.

 

Thats all cool, but what does this do to smog? Will it stay the same or would i have to pay the technician to look the other way?

 

o, sorry. I meant anything cheaper than doing an entire engine swap

o, and thanks for the suggestions on the previous post

 

SMOG??!?
tag your car in a different state, to hell with cats, im runni straight pipe to a 28" glasspack

 

What state are you in? In Wisconsin, on the registration there is a line that says "car is kept in county of" as long as you put it in a rural county no smog. Look up local laws.

 

oklahoma, tennessee or kentucky, no smog here

 

well i live in texas, we pretty much have a condition for inspections stating that if the vehicle is 25 or more years, then you shall abide by that year's(of your car) emission standards.....i say **** these new bullshit laws for all this EPA environmental crap..

 

The cam might change your smog a little. A good quality high flow cat will keep your smog levels stock as far as the cat is concerned. The larger intake and new muffler doesn't change anything. As long as you don't enrich the fuel or screw something up to lean it out too much then you should be fine. SHOULD be...

Don't tell them "but Bleach said it wouldn't effect my emissions!" They don't care what Bleach says. Mod at your own risk. Or buy a stock 280zx turbo.

 

Yeah, I'm totally in Nevada. The county thing would work, but the cut off year for smog is '67. Thanx for lookin out guys

 

hmmm, well a car in my state over 25 years old is considered an antiquity and doesn't have to pass any sort of emissions

 

Stupid Utah and their inspections ... this is mainly what's keeping me from dropping an RB25 into my Z, and a 350SBC in my Volvo ... well, that and money :doh:
The only two ways I can think of for passing is installing a high-performance cat, or fudging emissions test results (technically it's not cheating ...). I'll probably just build my cars with cats.