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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Roof Scoop?

Alright J, Now that you are totally overloaded with ideas for carbon pieces for the 280ZX... Have you thought about maybe doing a roof mounted downforce inducer type deally like the ones in "Need 4 speed underground"? I think one of those done right would look really cool on our cars. You could make one that sits right inside the gap between the t-tops for cars so equipped or a wider one for non t-top cars. I just think it would give the car a really F1 type of look. Think about it. Not to get too ricey or anything, but I would like one.

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Too ricey, it has no purpose! That's like putting a hood scoop on a Fiero!!!
Old Oct 24, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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^LMFAO!! There's two Fiero's in my area with hoodscoops ...

... sorry, that just hit home. Damn funny, and it's reality!

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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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actually the idea of a roof spoiler has been discussed in great length, i believe on hybridZ.org, and the general consensus has been that a 'spoiler' that follows the roofline and extends somewhere around 5" over the hatch would greatly reduce the lift on the back of the car by breaking up the airflow. so a spoiler that mounts flush on the top of the hatch and then extends back following the roofline wouldn't be such a bad idea
Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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LIke a Drag spoiler, but on the roof
Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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same idea yeah
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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But he said roof Scoop, like to suck in air for your rear engine...
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bleach
But he said roof Scoop, like to suck in air for your rear engine...
i think what he said was
roof mounted downforce inducer
sounds to me like me meant spoiler
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 007max
i think what he said was sounds to me like me meant spoiler
Yeah, ya bastages!!! DOWNFORCE INDUCER Not a frickin air scoop jeez I hate being taken out of context.

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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RodMoyes
Yeah, ya bastages!!! DOWNFORCE INDUCER Not a frickin air scoop jeez I hate being taken out of context.Rod.
haha You know a scoop would be hot..
Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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If I made some roof mounted scoops then all the Honda guys would have to sell their cars and buy Z's. That's all thats holding em back right? Lack of Ricyness, uh I mean flashiness

Rod, or anybody for that matter, could you send me or post up a pick of what your talking about. I haven't played N4S:UG so I don't have a visual.

I can never have too many ideas. Too many to make reality, sure. But just too many, Nah.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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something like that, only, you know, on a ZX

Old Oct 26, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Uhhh, No. That's not what I meant.
Look at the screen shots below. What I'm talking about is the small roof mounted downforce inducer. It creates downforce closer to the centerline of the vehicle rather than just at the tail end of the car.

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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ahh, so you ARE talking about the scoop looking things
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Yeah, but it's not like it's some kind of fake ram air scoop or anything... It has openings at the back that direct the flow of the air through it downward. It's a functional piece. It creates lateral stability and downforce over the centerline of the vehicle at the same time. It's not just some stupid cosmetic Ricer add on.

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RodMoyes
It's a functional piece. It creates lateral stability and downforce over the centerline of the vehicle at the same time. It's not just some stupid cosmetic Ricer add on.Rod.
Hmmmm?? Would it make that big of a difference though??
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Slightly more than the "Nismo" license plate frame... But it looks really cool.

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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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I think you would have to keep your T tops on constantly to make sure that it looked right. Because that roof mount wouldnt look right when you had the tops off.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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A little sculpting and I could work one of those up. Fiberglass or CF? What would be really sick is if you mounted a little video camera in the opening Hey, now that gives me an idea I'd have to put in a little research to figure out what kind of angles I'd be looking at in order to actually create any downforce with it though.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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not a big fan of the "downforce inducer" or whatever you want to call it, but i would definitely go for a roof spoiler like the one i was describing earlier
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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I'll add it to my list
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 03:52 AM
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A roof mounted scoop-like-spoiler wouldn't do anything; it wouldn't have enough surface area to create any useful downforce or diffusion, assuming it even worked at all.

I would second being interested in a roof-extension-type spoiler pictured above.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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^ Just install the dreaded hatch louvers.
Old Oct 27, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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I saw a 1st gen Supra rear window spoiler modded to fit on a 280ZX once. It was kinda funky lookin.
Old Oct 28, 2005 | 01:59 AM
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That old-school Supra window spoiler is available from MSA, so they probably bought that instead of modding a Supra one to fit. Are you talking about the 280ZX from the Blackhawk show this year?



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