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Old 05-14-2008, 07:04 PM
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Wink Trying to buy a Z

Hey guys, im new to Z's but my dad had a 77. Hes was in love with that car and has always wanted another one. Well we found one it a 78 orange original owner $2000. Were going to see it in a coulple of days and wondered if any of you could tell us what we should look for when inspecting it and test driving it.
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:08 PM
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The number one thing to look for, especially since you're in the Midwest, is rust. Check the floor boards, frame rails and the battery tray, among other areas. As long as the car is mostly rust-free, everything else you can easily deal with....
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:12 PM
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Thanks, SportBikeMike ill deffinantly check for rust. The car is a good family friends brother so we know the whole history.
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tear up the carpet to the rear hatch and under the seats mainly.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:38 AM
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The Body - Sheetmetal:
The Z Cars are a unibody construction. They do not have an independent frame, onto which the body is bolted. (like older American Cars). Rather, the entire unitized body provides the structural integrity for the car. It supports the entire drive train and suspension.

In general the body or sheetmetal parts are the items that require the greatest inspection on the first generation Z Cars. Most of the mechanical items are easily repaired, and for the most part they are very dependable.

The main concern should be with the structural elements of the uni-body. Exterior panels such as the hood, front fenders and doors can be replaced fairly easily, if not inexpensively. The frame rails, inner-fenders and floor pans, as well as the real quarter panels are very expensive to replace properly. These panels are welded together and supply strength or rigidity as a unit. So when one is weakened, the entire uni-body is weakened.

As a result of the effort and expense involved in correctly replacing these structural panels, many first generation Z Cars have been "patched up" rather than correctly repaired.

This can be, or can lead to, a dangerous situation. The engine and front suspension depend on the strength of the front frame rails and the integrity of their connection to the inner-fender wells and floorboards. So check these items with the greatest of care. Rust is the major cause of their failure.

So - Watch For Rust:
When under the Hood, inspect the frame rails on both sides of the car. Look for rust where the frame rails meet the uni-body. Usually under the battery on the inner-fenderwell and on down to the frame rails. Over time, battery acid cleans the paint off the sheetmetal, and then it rusts completely though.

Look at the frame rails from within the wheel wells also. Make sure the metal is firm and strong. Knock on it with something strong and metal - make sure it isn't rusting from the inside out!

Bumpers: - Another area to inspect for RUST is the bumpers! Look behind them, they rust from the back side out through the chrome layer - so a very small hole in the chrome may mean an expensive bumper that is completely rusted out (and can't be fixed or rechromed later)

SO - Watch For Bad Rust Repairs Also:
Make sure you get the car up in the air, so you can completely inspect the undercarriage. Watch for bad or poorly done repairs, which have been covered up with "thick" undercoating. The stock factory undercoating was oversprayed with body color paint. Many dealers also applied undercoating prior to delivery, but these will for the most part look twenty years old. If you see fresh black tar based undercoats, beware...they are most likely covering up some problem.

Watch For Missing Parts:
Depending on your intended use of the car. You will want to assure that all the parts that you will need are there. If you plan to restore an older Z Car, you will want to make sure that all the original parts are still on the car (if they are not, you should pay less for the car, as you will have to find them, and pay for them!).

Major Items To Watch For Include:
ENGINE - Check to see if the car still has it's original engine. The original engine serial number is stamped both on a metal data tag under the hood, and on the block itself. Make sure they match. (if you plan on restoring the car to original, or if you plan to keep that option open for the future). Also check to see that all the original engine parts are still there - ie. AirCleaner, Emission Controls, Air Pumps etc. etc.

INTERIOR: - Check to see that the original seats are still in the car, and that the dash is not cracked. Make sure on the 1970 Models (as well as all others actually) that the car has the original gauges in the dash. This will give you a clue as to if the entire dash has been changed out. The '70 speedo started at 20mph rather then the usual "0"mph, and the oil pressure gauge went up to 140lbs....rather than the later models that went up to 120lbs.

all pulled from http://zhome.com/ under What To Watch For
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