Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
try the LED test like i said. get an LED and disconnect the injector plug and stick the LED in the clips contacts it should pulse. if it doesnt its not getting signal. mostlikely it will, if not though, wire on a new pig tail if still no. try foolin with the wire on the ECU itself. where the vid!?!?!? and did you get that timing up to 20-25?
Yeah timings good. Will test the pulse tomorrow too. I think its a gummy injector. I already wired on a new plug because the old one broke when I was cleaning it. I barely touched it I swear.... And the video is still uploading. Youtube was taking forever so I`m putting it on myspace. |
shoulda went with streetfire.net they gots a much better compression process. holds video quality AWESOMELY! i know they even got some HD shit uploaded on there, but i think thats only do-able from like their mods and sht.
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http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=28784905
Yay!! video of my crappy running turbo 260z... |
mmmhmmm.. cant see anything. lol. but yeah, its missing badly. should get to crackin on that cylinder.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
mmmhmmm.. cant see anything. lol. but yeah, its missing badly. should get to crackin on that cylinder.
Its all dark. Tomorrow it will be fixed. Still fast running on 5. When its done I`m gonna put it up against my buddy's evo8 from a roll. Video tomorrow after its fixed. |
from a roll? your gonna loose. bad. lol. just brake boost it k! so you can get a jump on him.
fyi brake boosting is when you give it full throttle but use the brake to keep your speed the same as his when your lined up, the car will build near full boost then so when you let go of the brake it takes off at full power no lag. also start out in 2nd gear so around 35mph roll cause even though he is gonna take you in the top end, specially since these cars slow down alot right around 90, 1st will spin. have him have a passenger and record it! and dont get caught. lol. |
Mkay, I`m getting signal to the number 6 cylinder injector. I pulled the injector and saw nothing wrong with it but am not getting fuel through it. I think I need a new one.
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try pulling the fuel rail with the injectors still attatched and the fuel lines and crank the motor see if it sprays. if it does a little try just cleaning it by running pure seafoam through the lines using ur spare fuel pump to it and then hitting the leads on the injectors with a 9v batter i believe on the dirty one. should open it and spray pure seafoam.
if it doesnt spray at all try cleaning it out anyways and the lead on the injector and try again. if nothing. then u gots a dead injector |
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
try pulling the fuel rail with the injectors still attatched and the fuel lines and crank the motor see if it sprays. if it does a little try just cleaning it by running pure seafoam through the lines using ur spare fuel pump to it and then hitting the leads on the injectors with a 9v batter i believe on the dirty one. should open it and spray pure seafoam.
if it doesnt spray at all try cleaning it out anyways and the lead on the injector and try again. if nothing. then u gots a dead injector HAHA I was just about to ask if I could run pure cleaner.... I hope its not dead those is 60 bucks each.... I`m running outa moneys. |
Okay folks, I now know why my number 6 cylinder isn`t working.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture021.jpg The project begins. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture022.jpg And a little into it. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture025.jpg Down the hole. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture032.jpg EWWWW Needless to say I`m gonna try to clean this and make it work. If not new injector time. |
fo show!!! i hope you changed the engine oil and go run pure seafoam through all of them, cause likely they are all close to that condition
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
fo show!!! i hope you changed the engine oil and go run pure seafoam through all of them, cause likely they are all close to that condition
Nope same ole oil..... Kidding its got royal P in it. And yeah gonna run some pure sea foam but first I am gonna try to salvage this injector. Its not letting any fuel through. I told you it was gummy.... Or rather lacquered shut. So sick of pouring money into this car. But hell the 1/2 mile I drove it was fantastic. |
What cc are those green top injectors?
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
What cc are those green top injectors?
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I`ve got a buick grand national 3.8 liter FI, would those injectors work in my car?
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Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
I`ve got a buick grand national 3.8 liter FI, would those injectors work in my car?
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
Interesting you bring that up... :D They do. I think they are 300cc's. You may need to adjust the AFM a bit, but they will work. I had my eye on an ebay set a while back... but I'm sick of spending $$$ on my Z. :D Pop those suckahs in and crank up the boost!
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Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
How does one adjust the afm?
http://www.geocities.com/jfairladyz/...?1144191577198 |
Oh yeah I was gonna tell everyone, now that the turbo motor is in and running, I`ll be selling off the intake parts off the n/a. So if anyone wants a dual weber setup on a cannon (I think) intake make me an offer.
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well looky there, u got slightly bigger injectors so you can up the boost now :D
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
well looky there, u got slightly bigger injectors so you can up the boost now :D
How do I up the boost? The only other turbo car I owned was a dsm. 90 talon. BUILT. Anyways I had an electronic boost controller in that. How do I do it without the buttons? (I sound like a spoiled kid but I built the dsm myself.) |
with a boost controller u turd. electric preferably manual also works. but id wait till u had an IC setup just cause. u gonna try out dem GN injectors?
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
with a boost controller u turd. electric preferably manual also works. but id wait till u had an IC setup just cause. u gonna try out dem GN injectors?
I think I may, We will see how this stock one goes. If I can get it clean and firing then I`ll stay stock till I got an IC and everything setup. I`ll keep them GM ones on the shelf for the future though. If this won`t clean and fire then I will be putting those in out of necessity. |
Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
Okay folks, I now know why my number 6 cylinder isn`t working.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture021.jpg The project begins. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture022.jpg And a little into it. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture025.jpg Down the hole. http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...Picture032.jpg EWWWW Needless to say I`m gonna try to clean this and make it work. If not new injector time. |
That is Sea foam. Strait sea foam.
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seafoam FTMFW!!!! i got cases of that shit in my garage since my dads a sales rep for them. there only like 20 people that work at seafoam. well other than the manufacturing plants, but thats a diff story. any one need seafoam come ssee me.
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I woke today to a perfectly functioning injector. In my excitement I get dressed put on some coffee, took a sh*t and ran outside. To be faced with 4 inches of heavy wet snow. After a week of being in the 50`s. The Z is not in the shop cause, "The weathers so nice I`ll fix the injector in the sun." The fuel rail is pulled apart so I can`t get it back into the shop. I`m sure this is the fault of George Bush, I don`t know how, but I`m blaming him. When the snow actually lets up a little I will go work on my Z. But I can`t see the neighbors its so bad right now. We don`t need this. Bogus already has 100+" at the summit. Tamarack is even better. Why oh why can`t the snow stay in the mountains?
Ok snow be damned I worked on it. I gotta get a new injector. I went to shucks and ordered a neihoff replacement. I am gonna save the buick ones till I gots a IC and a boost controller. Tomorrow I`ll fix it. I am also replacing the brakes on Ricks Evo8 it should be a good day..... I`ll get evo8 pics cause I know you wanna see. And I want opinions on using the brakes and rotors offa one of those.. |
Originally Posted by Mhinrichs
That is Sea foam. Strait sea foam.
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u said it was perfectly working.... so why do u need a new one? lol. where was ur justification on both those claims?
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
seafoam FTMFW!!!! i got cases of that shit in my garage since my dads a sales rep for them. there only like 20 people that work at seafoam. well other than the manufacturing plants, but thats a diff story. any one need seafoam come ssee me.
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i know man, i was just beein a lil sarcastic lol. but i really do have like a stack of seafoam products lol.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
u said it was perfectly working.... so why do u need a new one? lol. where was ur justification on both those claims?
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ive posted at like 7 am before, and i get it, but i still dont think if used the wrong word before lol. purdy funny! yeah dude sucks for you all my injectors worked lol.
also, since i sold my 260 for 3.2 k and i got my 280Z that is worth keeping, though i dont know if i will, im thinking about RB25 ing it. its soooo tempting... found a motor ecu and harness for 1500 (in fl though) it needs the tranny though and also has available a shit load of upgrades like the RB20 oil pan and sump for the S30 application. i just wish it had a tranny. either way, i realiezed how many friends and recources i have i can probably just find some one to help me fab up a tranny mount and two engine mounts, i already got the experience fo wire in a harness id just have to pay a shop to make me a drive shaft. thinking about that makes me all giddy and shit! lol. but i doubt it will happen, even though its for the first time feasable and would render me alotta money. |
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
ive posted at like 7 am before, and i get it, but i still dont think if used the wrong word before lol. purdy funny! yeah dude sucks for you all my injectors worked lol.
I got this thing where I say whatever word comes to mind. When typing I can usually stop it. Its like the words left and right are interchangeable for me. Him and Her he and she. Stuff like that. It drives my family insane. |
yeah, i read everything i need to know to swap an RB25 into my car, and i could do it no problem, but then i just decided, yeah i dont feel like spending the 3k i just made and will just finish the 280 resto and sell it for bank and get me a Z32TT
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Before you go buying new injectors do what I did, which I got the idea from jfairladyz a good while back.
He ran fuel line from a little tub mixed with fuel and injector cleaner, he ran that line to the fuel pump, then from the fuel pump to a fuel filter, then to the rail. Plugged off the return line, and then connected up the pump to the battery, and connected one injector at a time to the battery. This way the pump would pressurize the rail, and the only place the fuel/cleaner mixture could go was through the injector. I did this and noticed that some injectors were not spraying correctly. After doing this to each injector, eventually they all evened out. I got enough crap out of the injectors to clog up my fuel filter. Oh and that little green LED on the ECU is for the O2 Sensor signal. It's how you tell if your O2 sensor is working or dead. |
Originally Posted by duowing
Before you go buying new injectors do what I did, which I got the idea from jfairladyz a good while back.
He ran fuel line from a little tub mixed with fuel and injector cleaner, he ran that line to the fuel pump, then from the fuel pump to a fuel filter, then to the rail. Plugged off the return line, and then connected up the pump to the battery, and connected one injector at a time to the battery. This way the pump would pressurize the rail, and the only place the fuel/cleaner mixture could go was through the injector. I did this and noticed that some injectors were not spraying correctly. After doing this to each injector, eventually they all evened out. I got enough crap out of the injectors to clog up my fuel filter. Oh and that little green LED on the ECU is for the O2 Sensor signal. It's how you tell if your O2 sensor is working or dead. My injector is not getting fuel through it. Its just not working, I think it stopped which allowed the fuel to get all gummy. I`m not getting fuel through it at all. Its dead. I am getting signal for it to fire. Its just gone bad. |
Mkay, I got the new injector and put it in. Fired it up and it ran great. For about a minute. It started missing again. So I trouble shoot and find now, my number one injector isnt getting fuel proper fuel through it. Its gummy too. But still firing some. So I decide to give it the seafoam treatment. Well just as I decide that it starts to sputter and miss and sound like crap and I was like "What the hell." Then the unthinkable. It died. Just like that kicked back and died. Needless to say I`m starting to freak out and lose my temper and get real angry. Well the wife walks up and asks whats wrong. I tell her and she looks at me and figures it all out in about a second. Shes says to me "When was the last time you put gas in it?"
Damnedable Z car. I swear I`m gonna sell it. Or set it on Fire. Video and pics later tonite. |
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
ive posted at like 7 am before, and i get it, but i still dont think if used the wrong word before lol. purdy funny! yeah dude sucks for you all my injectors worked lol.
also, since i sold my 260 for 3.2 k and i got my 280Z that is worth keeping, though i dont know if i will, im thinking about RB25 ing it. its soooo tempting... found a motor ecu and harness for 1500 (in fl though) it needs the tranny though and also has available a shit load of upgrades like the RB20 oil pan and sump for the S30 application. i just wish it had a tranny. either way, i realiezed how many friends and recources i have i can probably just find some one to help me fab up a tranny mount and two engine mounts, i already got the experience fo wire in a harness id just have to pay a shop to make me a drive shaft. thinking about that makes me all giddy and shit! lol. but i doubt it will happen, even though its for the first time feasable and would render me alotta money. |
hmmm... that would be pretty sweet. yeah i posted a reply its on hybridz classifieds in the parts for sale section. if its near you and you wanna check it out that be cool man. cause he didnt answer my post yet anyways. should be titled RB25/20 parts or something like that. im still interested at times in doing the swap, and then i re-think it and go... i dont wanna... but who knows..... who knows....
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I'll check it out and see if I can find the same guy on floridadrift or Orlandoforums for contact information.
I'm just waiting for my checks (bi weekly) so I can send you the rest so sorry about the wait. |
im freakin out man!!!! lol, i drove the 260 around the other day and it was goin good. drove it today and it kept sittin on its face after a full pull and then a shift, i think im outta gas!!! lol. plus the battery seems to have stopped holding a full charge. so im gonna have to get you a new one now :(
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
im freakin out man!!!! lol, i drove the 260 around the other day and it was goin good. drove it today and it kept sittin on its face after a full pull and then a shift, i think im outta gas!!! lol. plus the battery seems to have stopped holding a full charge. so im gonna have to get you a new one now :(
HAHA gas sucks. Its still not running right. I think its running worse. I think I need to replace the other 5 injectors. I think I`ll just get the big ones outa the buick. Its still missing. And now It is acting all weird. I am gonna shoot it. |
Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
im freakin out man!!!! lol, i drove the 260 around the other day and it was goin good. drove it today and it kept sittin on its face after a full pull and then a shift, i think im outta gas!!! lol. plus the battery seems to have stopped holding a full charge. so im gonna have to get you a new one now :(
It's in Miami, thats a 4 hour drive lawwwlz. |
what kinda gas is in it? old? id suggest replacing the injectors with the buiks since they are 300 compared to 270's no big fawkin deal a little tweakin on the AFM thats it. then, run a can of seafoam through the intake cleaning up the valves, and drain the gas tank, replace the fuel filters, blow out the fuel lines and re-insert new premium gas. after that start it (put another can of seafoam in teh gas to) and then also check the fuel pressure. got a guage? is the FPR there and hooked up? and ur sure about the timing being set right? got the timing light aimed it at the crank matched it up? other wise go over and clean ALL the connections on the harness, AFM, TPS, ECU, etc.... go now while its still light out.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
what kinda gas is in it? old? id suggest replacing the injectors with the buiks since they are 300 compared to 270's no big fawkin deal a little tweakin on the AFM thats it. then, run a can of seafoam through the intake cleaning up the valves, and drain the gas tank, replace the fuel filters, blow out the fuel lines and re-insert new premium gas. after that start it (put another can of seafoam in teh gas to) and then also check the fuel pressure. got a guage? is the FPR there and hooked up? and ur sure about the timing being set right? got the timing light aimed it at the crank matched it up? other wise go over and clean ALL the connections on the harness, AFM, TPS, ECU, etc.... go now while its still light out.
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did u do a compression check? and seeing as it seems you covered it all, ill mention the one you didnt bring up. cleaning ALL EVER DAMN ****ING ONE OF THEM connectors and contacts on the EFI harness. and re-bending all the mini spade clip types.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
did u do a compression check? and seeing as it seems you covered it all, ill mention the one you didnt bring up. cleaning ALL EVER DAMN ****ING ONE OF THEM connectors and contacts on the EFI harness. and re-bending all the mini spade clip types.
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Its ALIVE!!! Ok got the big injectors and the afm adjusted and all that and fire it up and it runs.... then starts missing on 1 then runs then misses and I am playing with it. I think the clip isn`t making good connection to the injector.(its been cleaned and bent) Anyways so I test drive it and it bogs for a second then starts firing on all 6 and dear jebus. I think I had an orgazime. It was flat out insane. I`m in love. I`ll get video tomorrow as the camera is now dead. I think I`m gonna switch out the injector clips for those from the buick that donated the injectors.
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Right on man, glad to hear you finally got it worked out. Go take a nice drive. And definately looking forward to some video of it. Rock on man!
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