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emo236 10-11-2006 05:19 AM

Best generation!
 
I'm sure this has been done, but there's new people in our community now. Pick what you think is the best generation Z and why.

CanyonCarver 10-11-2006 05:59 AM

All Z'z FTW's

wreckedj30 10-11-2006 06:54 AM

i like the s130, because it still looks original but it has upgraded suspension and brakes. But the z32 is close second:unibrow:

NismoPick 10-11-2006 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by CanyonCarver
All Z'z FTW's

True that homie. Tho I still voted S130 :unibrow:

bjhines 10-11-2006 07:39 AM

a street prepared S-30 will hand a street prepared Z32 it ass... The 240Z will out perform everything Nissan ever made until the Z-32TT beat it in a straight line... IMO the 280ZX are the worst Z cars ever made... over and over and over again... Horsepower will not help... the S-30s are the best road course cars Nissan ever made...



Z-33s are another easy mark... they are WAYYYYYYYY TOOO HEAVY
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...orthcourse.jpg


The only thing the S-30 series can be beat by the later models is drag racing... even then you better have quick reflexes... the S-30s are light...

WildmaN 10-11-2006 02:18 PM

The 280zx is the BEST Z car EVER made. It was my first sportscar, and I own 3 of them. Granted I still want a S30 someday. But the 280zx will always be my favorite Z car period. It just blows away in looks compared to the rest of the series.

Sorry had to put my thoughts, because the 280zx was dissed on. I am usually cool, and respect the other Z's. But I do get tired of people putting down the 280zx, or any Z for that matter. I am not a fan of the Z33, but I wont slam it down either. Just not my cup of tea.;)

snwbrderphat540 10-11-2006 02:20 PM

so...when transformer the movie comes out....is there gonna be a s130 in it? lol....
andim tied between the s30 and the z32....can i vote for both??? otherwise im not voting...it just doesnt seem fair...

SoCal-s130 10-11-2006 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
so...when transformer the movie comes out....is there gonna be a s130 in it? lol....

lol, That would be tight! Guess we will have to wait til 07.

Oh yeah, I vote for s130! :unibrow:

snwbrderphat540 10-11-2006 02:26 PM

haha..how pissed would some of you be if they decided to bring it up to date and used like a z33 instead....lol....
ill make a thread about it laughing....and yeah since i never really saw transformers....is the one really transform from an s130? or what?? im kinda just assuming from wildman's junk...

apollo 10-11-2006 02:41 PM

Well the S30 is the original but I am a S130 kind of guy. Yea out of the box it needs some work, but with a lil tweak here and there it can look fawkin sexy. I would have to say more so than any other Z due to the lines. It has the perfect balance of angular and round lines. Sexy, just damn sexy . . .

b300z 10-11-2006 03:51 PM

z32 ofc

next is s30









last is z31

snwbrderphat540 10-11-2006 04:27 PM

haha...i think im thinking along those lines myself^^^

emo236 10-11-2006 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by bjhines
a street prepared S-30 will hand a street prepared Z32 it ass... The 240Z will out perform everything Nissan ever made until the Z-32TT beat it in a straight line... IMO the 280ZX are the worst Z cars ever made... over and over and over again... Horsepower will not help... the S-30s are the best road course cars Nissan ever made...



Z-33s are another easy mark... they are WAYYYYYYYY TOOO HEAVY
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...orthcourse.jpg


The only thing the S-30 series can be beat by the later models is drag racing... even then you better have quick reflexes... the S-30s are light...

I own an S30 and I've owned 2 TTs. Both cars with full bolt ons, the TT will win in every aspect. S30's are easily buildable to be great road course cars, but it's hard to beat a built TT.

skittle 10-11-2006 04:47 PM

1. S130 - Skittle Power
2. S30 - The Godfather Of The Z's
3. Z32 - The Tormentor
4. Z33 - The Tonka Z
5. Z31 - Barbies Other Car

bjhines 10-11-2006 04:52 PM

We had 3... countem THREE Z32TTs DIE on track with major engine failures this year...

Even when they were running I would find them in a group of turns and then they would zoom away putting nearly 500ft between us on a long straight... but I would be back on their tail after a few turns... eventually I would pass and get enough distance we never traded places on another straight...

I always beat their times in TT... I get an easy 1:30 at roebling in mid summer... that heat would kill a Z32 in one session...

There are only 2 Z32tts that I have seen regularly on track... and I have heard horror stories of engine damage from those guys as well...

I think it is an impressive pony car... It can be pushed to 600HP on the drag strip... BUT... I have seen enough of them die on road courses in one year to totally put me off on them... there is no way I would waste my money there...

CanyonCarver 10-11-2006 05:42 PM

LOL..... the last TT I saw on a road course ended the day with a spun rod bearing. The funny thing with those guys is that they can't refrain from dialing up the boost knob and melting things down.

I see a s30 in my future, but I'd blasphemize it with a motor from a different manufacturer. :unibrow:

wreckedj30 10-11-2006 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by CanyonCarver
I see a s30 in my future

Me too..:unibrow:

jfairladyz 10-11-2006 07:34 PM

S130...and I dont need an F'ing reason. It's just the best (and the poll results thus far show that ;) ) I rank it just above the S30.

(I will say that I'm basing my vote almost purely on the cosmetic aspect of the cars. Obviously the S130 was not the best performer out of the box)

CanyonCarver 10-11-2006 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by jfairladyz
.....(and the poll results thus far show that ;) )

This should be renamed the s130zdriver.com forums .........:) j/k but n/r

b300z 10-11-2006 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by CanyonCarver
This should be renamed the s130zdriver.com forums .........:) j/k but n/r


and then a z33driver.com they all seem to be in their own forum, and never anywhere else. they arent even voting in this poll for themselves

snwbrderphat540 10-11-2006 09:53 PM

yeah i noticed that to...i8acobra is the only one i see that hops over here from time to time

WildmaN 10-12-2006 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
haha..how pissed would some of you be if they decided to bring it up to date and used like a z33 instead....lol....
ill make a thread about it laughing....and yeah since i never really saw transformers....is the one really transform from an s130? or what?? im kinda just assuming from wildman's junk...

Here is the 3 S130's (280zx's) Bluestreak, (in my sig already) Prowl, and Smokescreen. And what's with my junk? LOL The old transformers, are getting more valueable, as the years go by.:)

WildmaN 10-12-2006 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
so...when transformer the movie comes out....is there gonna be a s130 in it? lol....
andim tied between the s30 and the z32....can i vote for both??? otherwise im not voting...it just doesnt seem fair...

Yes the movie comes out July 4, 2007. There is a trailer for it, on www.transformerslive.com. Check it out man, killer teaser trailer.

As for any 280zx's in the movie, not that I know of. But I hope so, that would be sweet.:038:

SportBikeMike 10-12-2006 08:11 PM

Ok I voted for the unloved 350Z (on this forum anyway)...mine is an absolute blast to drive especially since I got the exhaust and intake and it sounds INCREDIBLE and basically handles like a slot car...great all-around sports car.

Although I love the looks of the 350Z, I say the most beautiful Z ever is the original 240/260/280Z...some of the best lines ever...

I don't mean to diss any of the other Zs....I like them all....especially the 280ZX since that was my first sports car.

The bottem line is: All Zs FTW!!!!

snwbrderphat540 10-12-2006 08:36 PM

sometimes slot cars fly out of controll into the wall.....

RodMoyes 10-12-2006 08:50 PM

This one was tough for me. As a very proud S130 owner, I was torn. However, I had to vote Z32 for best over all. Let's face it, the Z32 looks awesome, had supercar stats and was basically alone in its class. As far as I am concerend it was the pinnacle (so far) of Z car engineering. As impressive as some of the numbers are for the Z33, it has neither the looks or performance of the Z32TT.

I still prefer the S130 in most aspects, but for sheer dominance of character... The Z32 owns all.

I'm still searching for my '95-'96 triple black Z32TT. When I find it, I'll buy it!


Rod.

SportBikeMike 10-13-2006 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
sometimes slot cars fly out of controll into the wall.....


Well thanks to some ice...mine flew out of control into a fence last December....

emo236 10-13-2006 03:38 PM

ouch! that sucks....all better now?

wreckedj30 10-13-2006 03:48 PM

Booo. Rod. Booo. Are you switching sides on us. Thats not cool. jk. I love the z32 but compared to the looks on the s30 and 130, its nothing. Well in my mind. In the performance aspect, the z32 TT, is the best. P.s. lets ban rod for that statement.jk:paranoid:

nismo619 10-13-2006 03:53 PM

S-30 are very nice to drive.. but in my own opinion.. i dont like how old it is and the looks
S130 is more in my line of looks and performence..it has the classy sport look
the z-31 is freaking awsome ! the turbo model kicks butt !
the z-32 witch i have had are really good but paying gas for 92 octan sucks !
the 350z is awsome in all aspecs.. just to darn heavy

Now lets include the
R-31
R-32
R-33
R-34
and soon R-35's

NISSAN SKYLINES....

RodMoyes 10-13-2006 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by wreckedj30
Booo. Rod. Booo. Are you switching sides on us. Thats not cool. jk. I love the z32 but compared to the looks on the s30 and 130, its nothing. Well in my mind. In the performance aspect, the z32 TT, is the best. P.s. lets ban rod for that statement.jk:paranoid:

I still like the S130 more. It's by far the best looking of all the Z's... It just gets spanked by the Z32 in performance. Don't be hatin'! :)

Rod.

SportBikeMike 10-13-2006 07:51 PM

I think the 280ZX is a good looking car......but I still think the best looking Z is the original 240Z.

CraigS 10-13-2006 07:58 PM

240Z's are beautiful cars....but.... I'm reppin the s130's!

RodMoyes 10-13-2006 08:04 PM

^ Damn straight!

Tell me that car right There isn't DEAD SEXY!!!


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wreckedj30 10-13-2006 08:50 PM

That car isn't dead sexy. ROD. JK thats a big JK. Anyways, i'd rather have a s130t then a z32 n/a any day. But my favorate zcar is the s130, hands down. No other picks. The z32 is second but probably third since the s30's are Thee first Z. But the z32's are the Best, but only in performance...

SportBikeMike 10-14-2006 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by emo236
ouch! that sucks....all better now?

Yeah I hit a patch of ice, slid into a ditch and side-swiped a fence... overall there was over $11,000 damage but it was all external....no damage to the frame.....nows she's back like new!

...and I'm not ashamed to admit I openly weeped that night....

emo236 10-14-2006 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by wreckedj30
That car isn't dead sexy. ROD. JK thats a big JK. Anyways, i'd rather have a s130t then a z32 n/a any day. But my favorate zcar is the s130, hands down. No other picks. The z32 is second but probably third since the s30's are Thee first Z. But the z32's are the Best, but only in performance...

comparing a s130T to a Z32 NA is like comparing apples and oranges. compare a s130T to a Z32TT.....which one do you want? Oh, and auto climate control, power seats, power mirrors (and heated), fully adjustable seats, ergonomic cockpit controls, etc owns.....especially all while going 0-60 in under 5 sec. I have a 240z and that's it's downfall for street driving....it's not very comfortable...especially in heat!

RodMoyes 10-14-2006 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by emo236
comparing a s130T to a Z32 NA is like comparing apples and oranges. compare a s130T to a Z32TT.....which one do you want? Oh, and auto climate control, power seats, power mirrors (and heated), fully adjustable seats, ergonomic cockpit controls, etc owns.....especially all while going 0-60 in under 5 sec. I have a 240z and that's it's downfall for street driving....it's not very comfortable...especially in heat!

You also can't compare twin spoolers to a single turbo (also a smaller displacement motor...)

And, all thse wonderfull gizmo's you mentioned are the same shit that drives most Z32 owners insane when it craps out on them :)

Still, Z32TT is the shizzle for performance and it looks really nice and all but it is NOT as sexy as the S130.

Rod.

bjhines 10-15-2006 02:00 PM

This is very interesting... but I think we have a niche group of S130 lovers in this crowd...
Everyone is looking for different things out of their sports cars... I use my 240Zs as mainly track toys... fair weather in-town driving only... I like cars with creds... I can spank an amazing assortment of fast cars with the 240Zs... And they are cheap to buy, cheap to build, and cheap to run...

If you want a REALLY FAST track toy... and you don't have a $60,000 budget... The 240Z is one of the best vehicles around for on-track performance...



http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...myredtruck.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ers/airbox.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...berCAIrear.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...uagessmall.jpg

bjhines 10-15-2006 02:07 PM

If you really want to embarass the Porsche owners... then this is my secret weapon in progress... I have plenty of room for a V-8...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...pdiagonals.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ementsmall.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...entprofile.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...fittingtop.jpg

CraigS 10-15-2006 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by bjhines
This is very interesting... but I think we have a niche group of S130 lovers in this crowd...
Everyone is looking for different things out of their sports cars... I use my 240Zs as mainly track toys... fair weather in-town driving only... I like cars with creds... I can spank an amazing assortment of fast cars with the 240Zs... And they are cheap to buy, cheap to build, and cheap to run...

I HAVE to disagree, lets face it 240Z's now cost a crap load more than a 280ZX in the same condition. A 280ZX comes with a more powerful engine. They're both pritty close to eachother eccept when it comes to weight which the 280ZX is the fat daughter with the hot mom.

emo236 10-15-2006 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by RodMoyes
You also can't compare twin spoolers to a single turbo (also a smaller displacement motor...)

And, all thse wonderfull gizmo's you mentioned are the same shit that drives most Z32 owners insane when it craps out on them :)

Still, Z32TT is the shizzle for performance and it looks really nice and all but it is NOT as sexy as the S130.

Rod.

I disagree..you totally can compare that. skyline's, supras, etc....all compare to the TT and do better with singles and the skyline has even smaller displacement than a s130. but you're right...things freaking BREAK! but no thanks to lash adjustements and carb adjustments with my 240z.....bugs the heck out of me!


Oh nad BJ, awesome Z's! I'd love to see some track vids...S30's do rock for road courses! I love mine!

jfairladyz 10-15-2006 06:27 PM

of course the S130 has a niche group. Not only is it a sexy car it's affordable for even the brokest of enthusiasts. And lets not forget that if Nissan hadn't taken the step toward the S130 it did, and instead had kept the Z's pure sports car roots, then the Z32 most likely wouldn't have become the car it did. The Z was never originally intended to become what it did. I'm not complaining, I think the Z32TT was by far the epitomy of performance in its class, but it is a far cry from the concept of the original Z. The S130 took that step toward combining luxury and driver comfort with performance. Of course if you were to got out and spend the couple thousand it would cost for a 280zx turbo and then put enough money into it to make up for the difference in the cost to purchase a Z32TT (in good mechanical and non-neglected shape) I'm sure that 280zx would more then give a Z32 a run for it's money on a road course. 300+ horsepower on stock L28 internals is not a problem. Which means a good deal of money could go into the chassis/suspension. Aftermarket EFI can be had for next to nothing. So a great handling 280zx putting out 300HP and weighing several hundered pounds less than a Z32TT... You do the math.

And for the record, the Z32 TT was the fattest of the Z's. NOT the Z33 (people keep using that as the Z33's downfall)

bjhines 10-15-2006 07:50 PM

OK... here is a track vid of me waiting in line behind a Mustang and a 350Z.. the BMW E30 is a hotrod hybrid and as fast as my street-prepared 240Z...

The 240Z and the hotrod E-30 easily out perform the bigger cars.. We are all on slicks... and all of these cars have suspension and engine mods... This is an advanced run group... listen to my engine.. you can hear me letting off before a set of turns so I can actually get on it through a set of turns... I have to wait... give distance... and then blast it with a short burst until I run into the slow traffic... you can hear me letting off in the turns leading out onto straights... that sucks because I have less than 200HP and need the extra momentum I get comming out of turns... the bigger cars are NO MATCH...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...orthcourse.jpg










This is me chasing down our head instructor in an Improved Touring CRX race car... We are running Time Trials with 30 seconds of space on a course that takes less than 1:30 to lap.... I catch and pass him in less than 7 laps in my street legal BSP 240Z...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...oad240Zwmv.jpg

RodMoyes 10-15-2006 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by emo236
I disagree..you totally can compare that. skyline's, supras, etc....all compare to the TT and do better with singles and the skyline has even smaller displacement than a s130. but you're right...things freaking BREAK! but no thanks to lash adjustements and carb adjustments with my 240z.....bugs the heck out of me!

OK Screw it then...

Please change my vote to S130 :)


I also agree that the Z32TT (as firece as it is) is not in the true spirit of the Z. It's a techie showpiece with a Masters Degree in science as where the original Z was all about bang for the buck simplistic performance. The only nice thing I can say about the Z33 is that it at least returned to its roots somewhat.


Rod.

wreckedj30 10-16-2006 07:15 AM

There you go Rod join the dark side. And the only reason i was comparing the s130and the z32 n/a was the closer comparasons. There around the same power, vg has more, but the z32 is a fat lady. So the power is made up there. No need to argue, as long as there zcars.:paranoid:

veyenyl 10-16-2006 01:15 PM

S30 is my weapon of choice. Totally epitomizes what a sports car is to a driving enthusiast. The other generations are fine for different types of drivers and was geared more to appeal to the masses (except maybe the Z32tt since it was priced so high). Thats cool but I prefer purity.


Originally Posted by CraigS
I HAVE to disagree, lets face it 240Z's now cost a crap load more than a 280ZX in the same condition. A 280ZX comes with a more powerful engine. They're both pritty close to eachother eccept when it comes to weight which the 280ZX is the fat daughter with the hot mom.

Thats not really true. Theres a '73 240Z for sale in my area for $250 (I might buy it this week :unibrow: ). True the 240Z will be worth more when fully restored or fully race prepped but thats because it's the best generation :048:

Rear suspension is different too. 280ZX has a semi trailing arm rear suspension vs chapman struts for the S30s.

emo236 10-16-2006 01:27 PM

yea, the z32 did go away from the true spirit of the Z car, which is why they discountinued it. The original premise was a cheap car that was stripped down and could whoop on most everything on the street. the 240z is the epitome of that premise. someone said the s130 is when they started to leave taht premise...you're prolly right. here's my personal assessment (my opinion)
S30--purebred Z car. track car extraordinare. Revolutionary car (this car revolutionized the sports car market--I don't know how many times I have heard someone come up to me and tell me they remember when they first came out , when I'm driving my S30 btw, and tell me about how they got killed in their nova or camaro or whatever)
S130--Little more luxury. Late 70's, early 80's styling (love it or not). Cheap to be had, easy to build as it is the same L28.
Z31--More luxurious. 80's styling. up'd performance as far was drivetrain. Cheap and cheap to build.
Z32--most luxurious. Modern styling (I get funny looks ALL THE TIME when I tell them it's a 90). Supercar status for its time in performance stats. Way ahead of it's time. Expensive to own, expensive to mod. Fastest in a straight line and does well for street driving. Great all around street car.
Z33--Good daily driver. Can be built to be more. Sorry, not too much experience at all with this car.

Heat Rave R 10-17-2006 04:16 AM

The Z32 is the car that got me into cars in the first place. However, I ended up with the S130 because I found it to be the best compromise of classic looks and modern amenities, so it met my needs all around.

js9krcr01040 10-17-2006 07:00 AM

.... I am not explaining myself... I dont even need to say it. Anyone want to go for an autobahn cruise?


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