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nikitenko91 Nov 13, 2007 04:52 PM

How to fix a "locked up" engine
 
i bought a 300zx and the guy said that the engine is "locked up" when i try to start it, it makes a loud grumbling noise. i see that the timing belt has been changed.

entropy31 Nov 13, 2007 05:25 PM

1.) remove engine.

2.)find replacement.

3.)install replacement.



what do you mean by "locked up"? will it spin at all? what do you mean by "grumbling noise"? we will need more info to help.

thxone Nov 13, 2007 05:41 PM

Unless it was a bad felony, I would post bail and see if you can get the engine released....or I would find a locksmith and see if they (he/she) could un-lock the engine. My friend had an engine that "froze up" my mom told him to throw some hot water on it. :paranoid:

SpeciallySpiked Nov 13, 2007 06:23 PM

Does it turn over? Is it locked up from water? etc

b300z Nov 13, 2007 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by thxone
Unless it was a bad felony, I would post bail and see if you can get the engine released....or I would find a locksmith and see if they (he/she) could un-lock the engine. My friend had an engine that "froze up" my mom told him to throw some hot water on it. :paranoid:

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nikitenko91 Nov 13, 2007 07:54 PM

yea it turns but when i try to start it, it is really loud and the whole car shakes it sounds like its having a hard time turning.

entropy31 Nov 13, 2007 08:02 PM

does it have oil in it?

turboZ87.300 Nov 13, 2007 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by thxone
Unless it was a bad felony, I would post bail and see if you can get the engine released....or I would find a locksmith and see if they (he/she) could un-lock the engine. My friend had an engine that "froze up" my mom told him to throw some hot water on it. :paranoid:

:037: :042: :023: LOL

Drain the oil and see if you get silver flakes in it...or if you get big pieces, then it's the bottom end... hope this helps...

Year,... NA, turbo???

nikitenko91 Nov 14, 2007 05:53 AM

yea it has oil. ill try to drain the oil today and see if it has the flakes.

nikitenko91 Nov 14, 2007 03:22 PM

when i turn the engine with a ranch it turns but then at a certain point i cant turn it no longer it gets stuck and when i turn it the other way it turns again but then also gets stuck after a while.

NismoPick Nov 14, 2007 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by nikitenko91
when i turn the engine with a ranch it turns but then at a certain point i cant turn it no longer it gets stuck and when i turn it the other way it turns again but then also gets stuck after a while.

That means it has compression. Take the spark plugs out. :D

snwbrderphat540 Nov 14, 2007 04:25 PM

lol! ^^^^ oh you... you sound like you need to do research. take teh plugs out yes. it will still be a little tough with the cam and springs. but still. what are you rotating it with? and where?

nikitenko91 Nov 14, 2007 07:49 PM

i rotated the crank shaft with a ratchet

nikitenko91 Nov 14, 2007 07:50 PM

its not that its hard to turn it, it gets stuck that you cant turn it no more.

KasbeKZ Nov 15, 2007 04:54 PM

seriously, take the plugs out. if it still is hard ot turn then its a major problem. the best way to narrow down is take the timing belt off and try spinning each cam and the crank separately. the stiff one is the problem.
and "ranch"? is that a thick accent coming through in your typing?

91zxtt Nov 15, 2007 08:26 PM

How exactly would having the plugs removed make it easier to turn it over manually? You really shouldn't rotate the cams separate for the crank. It could cause the valves to hit the pistons; which is bad. If the engine is binding up when you turn it over manually, then there are some major problems.

reddzx Nov 15, 2007 08:46 PM

valve hitting piston, broken connecting rod, just some of the more drastic reasons. CHECK OIL FOR METAL PIECES FIRST!!!!!

thxone Nov 15, 2007 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by 91zxtt
How exactly would having the plugs removed make it easier to turn it over manually? You really shouldn't rotate the cams separate for the crank. It could cause the valves to hit the pistons; which is bad. If the engine is binding up when you turn it over manually, then there are some major problems.

Having an open hole in the combustion chamber will allow air to escape each cylinder as the piston moves up the piston chamber...I.E. less resistance when turning by hand. If the rotating assembly will only go so far in either direction with the plugs out then it is a safe bet that something is broken...could be a broken and jammed timing chain (take off valve cover and see if the chain is still in one piece) Could be a broken valve stuck in one of the combustion chambers. Could be a busted connecting rod. The car could be in gear. The starter might be jammed.

entropy31 Nov 15, 2007 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by thxone
timing chain

belt. not chain.

thxone Nov 15, 2007 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by entropy31
belt. not chain.

I am way to used to posting in the 280ZX area....belt huh...ok so scrap that idea

nikitenko91 Nov 16, 2007 04:52 AM

taking out the spark plugs just makes it easier to turn. but it still gets stuck in the same places as before

turboZ87.300 Nov 16, 2007 08:10 AM

If the motor can turn about 3/4 of a turn, then most likely the piston is hitting the valve... if it only turns 1/8 or so, then most likely it's a bearing or the timing belt it out of time... time to take it a part... take the belt cover off and look of the timing marks and look for a part of the belt missing... Good Luck

One more thing... look at the plugs... see if one or more of the plugs has damage to the tip...

nikitenko91 Nov 16, 2007 12:21 PM

its turns about 3/4, i have the timing belt cover off every thing looks good their.

turboZ87.300 Nov 16, 2007 04:57 PM

Sounds like the piston is hitting the valve... if the valve is bent, it will not close all the way, then the piston comes up to the top and hits the valve, that's why the motor wont turn 360%... now you have to find out what side...

NismoPick Nov 16, 2007 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by 91zxtt
How exactly would having the plugs removed make it easier to turn it over manually?

What I said,


Originally Posted by NismoPick
That means it has compression. Take the spark plugs out. :D

in more simple terms...

No spark plugs = no compression. No compression = no sealed chamber of air to compress. No sealed chamber of air to compress = easier to turn.

Whew!

I take it you've never done this before???


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