Handbrake issue
Few days ago i went to a local mechanic to tighten my handbrake because it lifts up so much and doesnt stop the rear wheels.. so he removed my rear wheels and began his work.. when he finished the handbrake was a bit harder to pull so i knew it has been fixed however it only works when the car is in stationary position, when it is in motion the car doesnt respond to the handbrake as if it is not working at all... So yest i retook the car to the mechanic and i told him the handbrake has been loosened so he retightened it and again same problem it doesnt work when the car is in motion..
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you're going to need to check it out yourself. i expect your pads are just shot (different pads for the e-brake). does it verifiably not slow the car at all when it's in motion or does it just not slow it a notable amount? to test, get going at 45 or so, coast, and yank it up fairly hard. if you feel the car bump at least, then we at least know that your pads are connecting with the drum.
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Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
(Post 280501)
you're going to need to check it out yourself. i expect your pads are just shot (different pads for the e-brake). does it verifiably not slow the car at all when it's in motion or does it just not slow it a notable amount? to test, get going at 45 or so, coast, and yank it up fairly hard. if you feel the car bump at least, then we at least know that your pads are connecting with the drum.
well i dont really know if it slows down because if it does it will be negligible... I hear the pads connecting with the drum when i pull it hard but i guess it"ll slow down just a little.. |
yes you will have to take off the rear rotor underneath the rear rotor is the e-brake pads i learned just 4 days ago how to put new ones on... get ready set go ! there is a little wheel located at the 6o clock postion you can tighten your pads if you still have pads left.. its super easy i used a number 5 flat head large to twist down the " clock " adj key to move the ebrake pads out. If you plan on replacing the pads you wil need a few tools.
Needle nose pliers to pull off the srings a c-clamp to take off the " stud " thats needed to reput back on the ebrake cable. <-- a pain in the A$$ by the way. brake spray 2 cans. just to make sure. |
... your hand brake is not designed to stop a car in motion... the pads are designed only to keep it from rolling while PARKED. That's why it's actually called a "parking brake."
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i was just mentioning that as a test that apparently he doesn't want to do.
on a side note, if it were not designed to slow the car while moving, why would it be a drum and pad system as opposed to a pin and gear system like that of an automatic transmission in park? |
... automatics have parking brakes, too. And some municipalities require automatic cars to use the parking brake, as well.
Not only are drum brakes (which is essentially what a parking brake is) obsolete because they are not as effective for braking, but the size of the pads and the tension your able to exert on the system with your hand and a cable (as opposed to your foot and a hydraulic system) is not sufficient for brake-use. Not to mention, rear brakes do less than 30% of a car's braking, and locking up the wheels is the last thing you want to do in an emergency (this is why we have ABS). http://autorepair.about.com/library/.../bldef-611.htm PARKING BRAKE: The mechanical hand- or foot-operated brake that prevents the vehicle from rolling or slipping when parked. The parking brake system is a secondary braking system used to hold a parked car in position. [...] Since there is no inertial to overcome, less braking power is required to hold the vehicle stationary and less force is required to apply. |
Originally Posted by ZLover4Life
(Post 280527)
... your hand brake is not designed to stop a car in motion... the pads are designed only to keep it from rolling while PARKED. That's why it's actually called a "parking brake."
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Originally Posted by xpwarrior
(Post 280546)
:017:You mean it wasn't designed for drifting??? :icon_butt:
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Originally Posted by KasbeKZ
(Post 280541)
i was just mentioning that as a test that apparently he doesn't want to do.
Who said i didnt want to do the test i had a lancia integrale HF and i used the e-brake alot while drifting.. That's why i wanted my e-brake working correctly so i can use it ! |
lmfao
Your turbos are shot and you want to drift. I hope you don't wonder why I stopped responding to your PMs. |
The parking brake is essentially a single drum brake in the rear...
And your mechanic is a tard, before he even messed with the rear, the cable at the actual handle should of been adjusted and this would of, more than likely, remedied the problem... I had the problem when I used the parking brake the car would still roll unless I pulled it to an almost vertical position. adjusted the cable at the actual handle, and the issue was solved. |
the actual handle is adjusted correctly ... it doesnt go to a vertical position even if you pull it hard..
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Originally Posted by ZLover4Life
(Post 280604)
lmfao
Your turbos are shot and you want to drift. I hope you don't wonder why I stopped responding to your PMs. they're not! |
Originally Posted by Sam
(Post 280499)
Few days ago i went to a local mechanic to tighten my handbrake because it lifts up so much and doesnt stop the rear wheels..
Originally Posted by Sam
(Post 280608)
the actual handle is adjusted correctly ... it doesnt go to a vertical position even if you pull it hard..
Just because you can push your clutch pedal and it works, doesn't mean it's adjusted properly.. Just because I bolt is in, doesn't mean it'd adjusted to the proper torque spec.. |
Originally Posted by Sam
(Post 280609)
Who said my turbos are shot... :S
they're not!
Originally Posted by Sam
(Post 280497)
i figured out that my turbos are going to need replacement after around a year or so...
Sam, these guys are just giving you advice on the proper way to do things. Obviously they have enough experience to know that "cutting corners" isn't going to get you very far (literally & figuratively speaking). |
Yea it lifts up so much but not to a vertical position tho.. sorry i needed to clarify more obviously..
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like i said, just because it isn't vertical, doesn't mean it isn't adjusted properly.
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NismoPick ... yea but they are still working now.. They're not dead YET
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Originally Posted by napoleonzheking
(Post 280615)
like i said, just because it isn't vertical, doesn't mean it isn't adjusted properly.
But it is adjusted properly .. its the pads that are worn.. i can here metal scratching when i lift my e-brake... i"m pretty sure it's adjusted properly.. |
Originally Posted by NismoPick
(Post 280612)
Sam, these guys are just giving you advice on the proper way to do things. Obviously they have enough experience to know that "cutting corners" isn't going to get you very far (literally & figuratively speaking).
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Originally Posted by Sam
(Post 280622)
Fine so what's the proper way! tho im still want garret turbos
And if the handle is adjusted properly, and you have already taken it to a mechanic twice, then he obviously isn't doing his job... If it's the pads, then he should of replaced them... Take it back, tell him you've already paid for a properly working parking brake, it still isn't working properly, you aren't giving him another dime, and you want it fixed properly this time. |
Dude i'm not living in the US.. mechanics accept to work with my car are very few especially good ones!! and this mechanic is very good however he told me that if it doesnt work than he need to remove the rear rotor to fix it so i said okay i will try it for a while and then tell you... So now i know that there are pads for the e-brake moreover 300zx parts are very very rare in lebanon considering there are only about 10 cars in the whole country ! so he can't go and search the whole country for pads ! therefore i must bring him the pads! And well he didnt take from me one dime!
I know stock turbos are GARRETS someone mentioned in the thread that they're garret t22s with t25 turbine! but i want upgraded GARRETS !! not JWT!! Why aren't you getting my point! |
Update! today i fixed my handbrake it was due to worn pads :)
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