Tranny swap to confused
I busted my tranny last week So done the swap this weekend, put new clutch pess. plate and so on. Running fine when i put it in my garage, Got finished late tonight go to crank it up and it sounded really bad. Like i had a monster huge cam in it!!!! I have a 83 n/a bone stock. It chugged for about 3-4 mins and the fuel light came on then died. now it wont crank up at all. Sounds like it wants to start up but it wont. The fuel light stays on. I have a spark in 1 and 2, didnt check the rest and i have plenty of fuel press out of the top of the fuel filter. one thing i noticed is there is some oil on my plugs. Ineed help this is my DD. I have to drive the wifeys car tomorrow to work.
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Did you check everything you touched? All efi plugs securely connected? My first clutch job I forgot to hook up the CHTS and it fouled out pretty quick. :D
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go the ground and starter hooked up right? lol
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check your ground like snow said. also is the battery kinda dead? maybe charge it a bit too. what else would you have touched tho? i cant think of anything else. the fuel light is on, are there any others like the batt. light?
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Originally Posted by SHADY280
check your ground like snow said. also is the battery kinda dead? maybe charge it a bit too. what else would you have touched tho? i cant think of anything else. the fuel light is on, are there any others like the batt. light?
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
Did you check everything you touched? All efi plugs securely connected? My first clutch job I forgot to hook up the CHTS and it fouled out pretty quick. :D
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CHTS = cylinder head temp. sensor. its the sensor on your passenger side of the head towards teh rear by cylinder 5 and 4 i think. also, how could you swap a tranny without removing the starter?
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
CHTS = cylinder head temp. sensor. its the sensor on your passenger side of the head towards the rear by cylinder 5 and 4 i think. also, how could you swap a tranny without removing the starter?
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I believe he's thinking you may have bumped the CHTS while working on the starter. If the leak at the cat is bad enough, it could make the car sound pretty lopey.
1. Is it as quiet as it was before the swap, but just lopey? 2. Or is it much louder than it was before the swap? If #1, you have a mystery. If #2, then you just have a big exhaust leak. This will also change the way the motor runs since it will idle better with the "proper" amount of exhaust back pressure. |
ok i pulled all plugs and the where caked with oily residue and not firing well. on 3 of the 6 cylinders. So replaced all plugs fired up but ran like elephant s**t:fripper: so i held at 2 to 3 rmp for about 2 mins pulled plugs and had the same residue on them but not as bad. So cleaned plugs and done again ran at about 3 grand for 5 mins or so until died could hold throttle wide open would die couldnot let off throttle would die. then eventually died noticed a glare from under car and the exhaust was glowing bright as hell all the way back SCARED the s**t out off me:paranoid: :paranoid: I couldn't tell if it was forward of the cat but cat and back was bright as a cig lighter.
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update: i took the cat off and im in the process of gutting it out . Im thinking that would make the exhause glow like that. Im pretty shore ( correct my if im wrong) if it is the timing, it would be the manifold glowing right???:012: :012: but it was red starting at the cat all the way back to the tip of muffler :033: :033: ... So with the cat off, I it fired up but ran like shit ( due to lack of back pressure right????) This really has me stumped because it was running perfect before i changed the tranny. Im gonna put the cat back on when all is cleaned out. Any advise would help or has anyone else seen this happen??
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SOunds like gutting the cat isn't going ot help you. The glowing exhaust would bwe from the Cat doing it's job and burning off the uunburnt fuel in the exhaust system. The problem is you're not burning the fuel in the cylinders like it's supposed to. Either bad spark, timing way off, wrong firing order, or extremely low compression would be the place to start. IF it was a plugged up cat, it should have run better once you removed it.
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pretty sure i thought clowing exhaust was from a lean condition. but check the timing. and check your spelling. that second to last post of yours was alomst impossible to understand
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
pretty sure i thought clowing exhaust was from a lean condition. but check the timing. and check your spelling. that second to last post of yours was alomst impossible to understand
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Originally Posted by Spraguepsycho1
sound's like gutting the cat isn't going ot help you. The glowing exhaust would be from the Cat doing it's job and burning off the unburnt fuel in the exhaust system. The problem is you're not burning the fuel in the cylinders like it's supposed to. Either bad spark, timing way off, wrong firing order, or extremely low compression would be the place to start. IF it was a plugged up cat, it should have run better once you removed it.
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well, your sure its oil on the plugs? other wise the motor is getting flooded if its just gas. if its oil, you got other issues. such as shot rings or super leaky valves. or BHG. do you have a compression tester? id say give it a whirl to make sure its still at a decent compression in all the cylinders.
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When you changed the plugs did you do them one at a time, or all at once? I'm just trying to make sure you got the firing order correct still.
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Originally Posted by Spraguepsycho1
When you changed the plugs did you do them one at a time, or all at once? I'm just trying to make sure you got the firing order correct still.
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Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
well, your sure its oil on the plugs? other wise the motor is getting flooded if its just gas. if its oil, you got other issues. such as shot rings or super leaky valves. or BHG. do you have a compression tester? id say give it a whirl to make sure its still at a decent compression in all the cylinders.
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Got all your tools/pets accounted for?..did you check inside bell housing?
seriously now, can you describe car behavior that led to: I busted my tranny last week. for sure engine was way hot all the way to the resting place, something that obviously you can not accomplish right know |
Originally Posted by turbot5
Got all your tools/pets accounted for?..did you check inside bell housing?
seriously now, can you describe car behavior that led to: I busted my tranny last week. for sure engine was way hot all the way to the resting place, something that obviously you can not accomplish right know |
How is it possible to get off timing when nothing was touched in the engine bay???????
The only time i was up there was when i took the 2 bell housing bolts off the top of the tranny. Starter was removed from under the car. |
ok ran compression test on 1 2 and 3 before the batt died. All 3 had 150 psi or plus, ill test the other 3 tomorrow. I did notice something though i dont know if it is normal or not. i took all the plugs out and disconnected the wire going to the coil on the driver side fender. When my buddy turned the car the spark ran out of the front part of coil onto the bracket holding on the coil and to the nuts on the front of the coil. Is this right??
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so is this normal for the spark to run out of the coil when cranking the car.
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if the wire was unplugged from it yes. if you left the spark plug boot/wire on it still then no it shoulda came out from where the other end of the spark wire was.
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