Respect.
Originally Posted by lww
Yes, but that one is my 38 mpg daily driver that was nearly shoehorned up your backside through the twisties in the Oakland hills if you recall...
tsk tsk tsk . .its even happened to you, lww. you have honda syndrome. its takes over your mind. makes you think and do crazy things. like putting a pic of a yucket on your sig on a Z car forum . . .just plain nuts.
i hear its cured with a good run through Pinehusrt whilst trying to keep up with a Z . . . .
I have to say...as I read it.....initialy this thread was about respect that we all expect should rightfully come to our Z cars. Then somewhere along the way it became a Honda bashing thread with some tid bits about them being reliable and the punks who drive them.
I feel I must present the third dimension to this thread...being that no matter how extreme our Z's become or how painstakingly original they remain if we talk about respect coming to us and our Z cars from other drivers then can we actually extend the same courtesy to others?
The fact is that not all Z drivers are the same neither are their Z cars. My point is that there have been some people on this site that have raised a few eyebrows here and there. We reserved our feelings about the people but still felt the same way about their Z's. Some were down right reckless idiots that had no business being behind the wheel of a Z let alone any other vehicle being powered by anything other then their own skinny legs. Deserving little respect if any.
So boys and girls...we want respect for our Z regardless of how it looks, sounds or performs. To us... it kicks a$$ and wether we like to admit it or not most would appreciate any acknowledgement. So why all the Honda bashing? I fully understand the idea behind "jumping on the bandwagon" as everyone likes to belong but this is getting a bit too much. Is it the cars or the people who RICE them out!
....and to anyone who questions whether I am daydreaming about being a Honda owner or whatever, please read my signature before embarassing yourself! After all, it is all about Respect!
I feel I must present the third dimension to this thread...being that no matter how extreme our Z's become or how painstakingly original they remain if we talk about respect coming to us and our Z cars from other drivers then can we actually extend the same courtesy to others?
The fact is that not all Z drivers are the same neither are their Z cars. My point is that there have been some people on this site that have raised a few eyebrows here and there. We reserved our feelings about the people but still felt the same way about their Z's. Some were down right reckless idiots that had no business being behind the wheel of a Z let alone any other vehicle being powered by anything other then their own skinny legs. Deserving little respect if any.
So boys and girls...we want respect for our Z regardless of how it looks, sounds or performs. To us... it kicks a$$ and wether we like to admit it or not most would appreciate any acknowledgement. So why all the Honda bashing? I fully understand the idea behind "jumping on the bandwagon" as everyone likes to belong but this is getting a bit too much. Is it the cars or the people who RICE them out!
....and to anyone who questions whether I am daydreaming about being a Honda owner or whatever, please read my signature before embarassing yourself! After all, it is all about Respect!
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I think that more than anything, it's just about having a "common enemy" and having a little fun. I doubt anyone here would really deny that Honda builds a quality car. It's just fun to poke fun at the shameless over-the-top efforts some people will go through in order to "trick out" their Honda. I know for me, it's just good natured fun. I've owned a couple of Honda's myself over the years and they were great cars. They just weren't "Special" (unless you mean the kind of Special" like in the "Special Olympics"). Now ya see... That was funny
Seriously though... I don't think anyone should stoop to mean spirited personal attacks when it comes to car choices. Hopefully we're all adult enough to keep it on the light side.
Rod.
Seriously though... I don't think anyone should stoop to mean spirited personal attacks when it comes to car choices. Hopefully we're all adult enough to keep it on the light side.Rod.
Canadians 
I'm just playing with you Nuc
I think I tried to get at that above but it didn't quite come out as well as yours did
I'd say you explained that rather well.
Besides, I was starting to feel bad for all the suckers who have honda's in their sigs with all this bashing
Hey and that is kinda funny how the thread title is 'Respect' and 95% of it has been nothing but disrespect for someone or something. I'd say that's irony (used correctly anyways)

I'm just playing with you Nuc
I think I tried to get at that above but it didn't quite come out as well as yours did
I'd say you explained that rather well.Besides, I was starting to feel bad for all the suckers who have honda's in their sigs with all this bashing

Hey and that is kinda funny how the thread title is 'Respect' and 95% of it has been nothing but disrespect for someone or something. I'd say that's irony (used correctly anyways)
Originally Posted by RodMoyes
I've owned a couple of Honda's myself over the years and they were great cars.
Rod.
Rod.
Strike one was not laying out the guy who set his coffee on your car
Originally Posted by Carl's Z
It seems to have lost it's way somewhere along the way
LWW HAS A RICED OUT HONDA DAILY DRIVER THAT HES IS PROUD OF ON HIS SIG!!!!! LET"M HAVE IT!!!
its honda bashin time! haha, i have always gotten a kick out of given that guy a hard time, i mean hes just askin for it . yes this thread was originaly about repspect for the Z car, but whenever honda bashing comes up, lww is gunna be the 1st to hear about it. if you're unsure as to why, look at his sig. all fun an games guys, all fun and games . . .
oh man, how have I missed all but the first page of this thread????
This sums it up:
LWW is a Honda Lover.
Canadians suck (but can down a few cold ones)
JfairladyZ drinks sam's choice soda.
Toss me a mountain Lightning!
This sums it up:LWW is a Honda Lover.
Canadians suck (but can down a few cold ones)
JfairladyZ drinks sam's choice soda.
Toss me a mountain Lightning!
It's only because you've never driven one (either?).
The S2000 doesn't make 'fun' torque until VERY high in the rpm range.
It's a 2900 lb car with 240hp and only 162 ft/lbs of torque at 6500 rpm! And it costs ~$34,000!
The 350Z makes 'fun' torque at a much more useable rpm range.
It only weighs 3200 lbs with 287 hp and 274 ft/lbs of torque at 4800 rpm and it only costs $31,000 for the Performance package.
If you want a convertible, the 350Z is only $34,500 with an extra 200lbs over the coupe.
In my mind, that's way more bang for the buck. One of the things I hate about my Honda is it sucks for torque. Even though I've got it 'hopped' up to 170 hp, it still only makes about 137 ft/lbs of torque!
The S2000 doesn't make 'fun' torque until VERY high in the rpm range.
It's a 2900 lb car with 240hp and only 162 ft/lbs of torque at 6500 rpm! And it costs ~$34,000!
The 350Z makes 'fun' torque at a much more useable rpm range.
It only weighs 3200 lbs with 287 hp and 274 ft/lbs of torque at 4800 rpm and it only costs $31,000 for the Performance package.
If you want a convertible, the 350Z is only $34,500 with an extra 200lbs over the coupe.
In my mind, that's way more bang for the buck. One of the things I hate about my Honda is it sucks for torque. Even though I've got it 'hopped' up to 170 hp, it still only makes about 137 ft/lbs of torque!
oh no . . . .this is a crazy world indeed . . the honda lover is an admin
must be that library of links he has stowed awayfor any possible question ever and then some. well, congrats i guess

must be that library of links he has stowed awayfor any possible question ever and then some. well, congrats i guess
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All I'm sayin' Is that if you'd rather have the S2000, You must have some Yanni CD's in your collection because both his music, and that car put me to sleep.
Rod.

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There is a really interesting thread on the whole Z33 VS. S2000 saga in the Z33 section. You guys should check it out. I think I killed the thread though, because after I posted... all the trash talk immediatly stopped.
Rod.
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