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cpp280zx 06-20-2011 12:02 PM

A/C Freeze12 vs real R12
 
Excuse my lack of car knowledge but I'm trying to get my A/C working in the most cost effective manner and can't seem to find any clear answers when I searched.

Can I buy the Freeze 12 synthetic R12 and just use that? http://www.amazon.com/Freeze-12-Refr...8595626&sr=8-1

Is it that straightforward or are there some complications associated with this? I read somewhere that this can eat at the orings and possibly cause more damage.

Or should I be looking more toward actual R12 like this? : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R-12-...Q5fAccessories

I'm trying to avoid doing a conversion because it would cost too much since I probably couldn't do it myself.

I'm in socal so a working A/C is pretty crucial so I don't end up drenched in sweat by the time I get to work. Again, my car know-how is very lacking so if layman's terms are possible it would be appreciated. Thanks

NismoPick 06-20-2011 12:10 PM

Freeze 12 has some pretty mixed reviews. Some people say it works, most don't.

R12 would be the best solution, but that ebay listing has gone way too high. I bought 3 cans of R12 last summer for $30. Here's one for $10 right now (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R12-V...item27bbd2561a). Remember that you will need to buy an R12 charge hose too.

R134a is another option. Our member BlueKitsune & several others are running R134a on a completely stock system. $40 for a conversion kit and that's about it.

cpp280zx 06-20-2011 12:54 PM

What's involved with the conversion though? Taking out the whole system?

hoov100 06-20-2011 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by cpp280zx (Post 296962)
What's involved with the conversion though? Taking out the whole system?

Having a shop put a vacuum on your system to make sure it doesn't leak, installing new fittings and refilling it with the correct amount of refrigerant.

BlueKitsune 06-20-2011 03:32 PM

Mine was already drained out. All I did was attach the new fittings and fill the system with R134a.

cpp280zx 06-20-2011 03:57 PM

Hmmm. Good to know. I'll probably just go with the R12 if that can Nismo picked out stays that cheap or I can find another one. I'll only need one?

And this charging hose, right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/R12-R22-R502-CHE...aultDomainQ5f0

NismoPick 06-20-2011 05:46 PM

How much you need depends on how much is still in your system. I can't remember the total lbs, but it's in the FSM (and the sticker under the hood).

As for the charge hose, you need a can tapper if you are going to fill w/ 1lb cans: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R12-F...Q5fAccessories

And I believe that ebayer selling that can for $10 has more listed.

FricFrac 06-20-2011 07:59 PM

Remember that a lot of these "replacements" are COMPATIBLE and not actual R12 or R134A which means a substitute like propane.....

cpp280zx 06-23-2011 08:49 AM

thanks for all the info guys. I think I'm going to end up doing the conversion so I won't have any problem getting R12 in the future if it needs to be recharged again


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