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82zxturbo Oct 22, 2007 04:11 PM

boost
 
i have an 82 turbo, its all stock, i want to know how much boost it can handle without having to do any major work

NismoPick Oct 22, 2007 04:22 PM

Welcome to ZDriver! :038: Feel free to search as this question has been asked before... like, here: https://www.zdriver.com/forums/showt...ighlight=BOOST

snwbrderphat540 Oct 22, 2007 10:49 PM

ugh.... dont blow up the car cause you want to boost it. nismo claims 12 psi on stock head gasket and head studs. and also thats where the stock injectors start to lean. soo honestly... 10psi is about the highest i would go on stock car. and original 7psi your not gonna notice much of a diff. like 3 tenths of a second off the 1/4 mile lol. get a intercooler setup, bigger injectors. all metal head gasket and ARP head studs. they wont expand.

NismoPick Oct 23, 2007 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
nismo claims 12 psi on stock head gasket and head studs.

der... reading comprehension pwns you again. :D I didn't "claim" anything about 12psi being the max (I did say the injectors start to lean out @ 12-14psi, and that each motor varies):

PS... the stock L28ET didn't have head STUDS, it used bolts... quite a large difference. :D


Originally Posted by NismoPick
yep... the exact answer to that question will always vary, as everyone has a diff setup. Here's some good info to read: Lots of good info on the web... http://www.mygen.com/users/dbruce/my...sor%20Maps.htm

The stock injectors start to lean out (on stock fuel pressure) at about 12-14psi. A RR FPR helps there. People refer to using an IC at higher boost for engine safety (cooler air helps prevent detonation) as well as performance (cooler air can increase power).

As for the size of IC to use... there's about 3 trillion intercooler calculator websites that help you pick the size you need.

And I remember reading somewhere that for each lb of boost, the basic estimate for hp increase on the L28 is 5-10hp.


snwbrderphat540 Oct 23, 2007 10:05 AM

pffft.... not really, just one has a nut, the other has a nut shaped head. same diff. queer. ;) and you said you blew ur head gasket around there i couldnt remember if it was 12 or 15 so thats why i said claim.

NismoPick Oct 23, 2007 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by snwbrderphat540
and you said you blew ur head gasket around there i couldnt remember if it was 12 or 15 so thats why i said claim.

ah... indeed I did blow it @ 12psi... but it wasn't stock when that happened either. It had been bored & shaved head. My CR was a lot higher. I've now lowered it w/ the 2mm head gasket.

Bleach Oct 23, 2007 11:43 AM

...and there is a noticable difference between the power at 7psi and 10psi. At least there was in my stock turbo engine.

The stock release valve vented at 10 on my engine so I never got up past that point. :D

nismo619 Oct 23, 2007 12:07 PM

there is two things your gonna have to do 82turbo... first off is upgrade your " POV " its located on the instake mamafold u can buy a HKS one i belive its blue. Or u can block it off by useing a plug from a local hard ware store. I did it that way. :-) then u will need a manual boost controller to raise the boost.. please please please dont use the stock boost gauge its not suted for over 7.5 psi. get a after market boost gauge like i did... so list of details is

1 manaul boost controller.
2 external boost gauge.
3 block off the POV aka pop off vavle..

4 u can run 10 psi no problem on a stock engine i have hell ive run 15 psi no problem but u can tell when the car leans out at 15psi. on the stock turbo but be warned now if u turn up your boost controller past 20-25 psi your turbo will leak oil from the front turbine ... that is if your turbo was the orginal turbo on you 82 car.

im running a stock engine high flow jsk fuel rail stock fuel injectors on a 1982 280zxt 2+2 5 speed. boost is set at 10 psi. and it screams ...

p.s. one last thing if u dont want turbo lag or properller to spin back wards u might want to buy a " blow off valve " and weld it to the j-pipe. closet to the throttle body .

Bleach Oct 23, 2007 12:50 PM

ya, don't let your turbo's propeller spin backwords... bad news

thxone Oct 23, 2007 12:51 PM

Hear YE Hear YE....I got my stock '82 Turbo to 10psi and it could still take a few more psi i.e. 12psi. You will not get over 8psi unless you plug that emergency pop valve though. 10psi is where I would stay though until you get an intercooler. 10psi does make a huge difference over the stock setting.

nismo619 Oct 26, 2007 09:44 AM

10 psi kicks ass !

lww Oct 26, 2007 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by nismo619
be warned now if u turn up your boost controller past 20-25 psi your turbo will leak oil from the front turbine ... that is if your turbo was the orginal turbo on you 82 car.

Uhhh... what? 20 to 25 psi?! With no intercooler on the stock turbo and fuel system? That's the fastest way to create holes in your engine I've ever heard.

The stock T3-60 turbo is outside it's optimal operating efficiency range at 12 psi (less than 75%). At 15 psi, it's approaching the edge (approaching 65% efficiency). At 20 psi (below 50% efficiency), you're probably loosing power and with the stock fuel system and no intercooler, your also superheating your intake charge and running way too lean...

Good luck.

RodMoyes Oct 26, 2007 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by lww
Uhhh... what? 20 to 25 psi?! With no intercooler on the stock turbo and fuel system? That's the fastest way to create holes in your engine I've ever heard.

The stock T3-60 turbo is outside it's optimal operating efficiency range at 12 psi (less than 75%). At 15 psi, it's approaching the edge (approaching 65% efficiency). At 20 psi (below 50% efficiency), you're probably loosing power and with the stock fuel system and no intercooler, your also superheating your intake charge and running way too lean...

Good luck.

Turbpwnd! :075: http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/cop.gif

Bleach Oct 26, 2007 01:56 PM

170 rwhp at 25psi!!!

BAM!!

duowing Oct 26, 2007 10:57 PM

I'm aiming for 150rwhp TIME TO CRANK THE BOOST.

nismo619 Oct 27, 2007 10:15 AM

180 hp stock turbo at 6.9 psi. ? how can u get 175 out of 25 psi of boost ? that doesnt add up bleach ? even if u turn up the boost to 10 psi it would make what ? 10 15 more horse power ? am i wrong or am i right ? nismopick can help out on this horse power quiz ?

180 hp stock set at 6.9 psi
200 ish set at 10 psi ?
3,000,000 hp set at 25 psi LOL

entropy31 Oct 27, 2007 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by nismo619
180 hp stock turbo at 6.9 psi. ? how can u get 175 out of 25 psi of boost ? that doesnt add up bleach ? even if u turn up the boost to 10 psi it would make what ? 10 15 more horse power ? am i wrong or am i right ? nismopick can help out on this horse power quiz ?

180 hp stock set at 6.9 psi
200 ish set at 10 psi ?
3,000,000 hp set at 25 psi LOL

a.) bleach is referring to WHP.

b.) at 25psi, assuming nothing has blown itself into tiny bits of shrapnel, the turbo would be so inefficient, you would be LOSING power. the stock turbo starts losing efficiency after about 12psi.
did you even bother to read this?

Originally Posted by lww
The stock T3-60 turbo is outside it's optimal operating efficiency range at 12 psi (less than 75%). At 15 psi, it's approaching the edge (approaching 65% efficiency). At 20 psi (below 50% efficiency), you're probably loosing power and with the stock fuel system and no intercooler, your also superheating your intake charge and running way too lean...

c.):075: :075: :075:


actually, i would like to see a 25psi reverse-to-first burnout. make another vid!

Bleach Oct 29, 2007 08:55 AM

correct, a t28 or t3 turbo at 25psi would be a heat pump! Your intake charge would be so hot, that if it didn't immediatly detonate then you'd be dropping your potential power from 300+ down to 175 :)

also it was just a slight exaggeration. Without an intercooler your engine would be destroyed at 25psi.

With an intercooler, larger turbo, and a proper fuel system you would surely be over 300 wheel horsepower at 25psi.


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