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grim369 01-09-2013 12:03 PM

axle question
 
I have an 89 na z31 and an 83 280zx turbo

I know the diff is the same, I was curious if the axles are identical aswell.

rogerz 01-09-2013 03:06 PM

No way

grim369 01-11-2013 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by rogerz (Post 320267)
No way

would you mind elaborating on that?

rogerz 01-11-2013 05:09 PM

two different cars. two different body styles. use common sense dude

NismoPick 01-11-2013 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by grim369 (Post 320336)
would you mind elaborating on that?

First Google machine result:

Differential / CV / LSD / HP / Torque / R160 / R180 / R200 / R230 / Diff Mount FAQ - Drivetrain - HybridZ

Z31 cv's:

http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/cv21.JPG

280ZXT cv's:

http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/IMG_15411.JPG

grim369 01-23-2013 02:10 PM

my mistake i guess i neglected one important detail.

i already knew they wouldnt be identical, what i mean is would they be applicable in an lsd conversion with a q45 lsd.

i am looking to combine the 280 axles with the q45 axles to work in the z31.

sorry for not explaining further i appreciate everyones input.

FricFrac 01-25-2013 10:40 PM

Isn't the Q45 a short nose?

grim369 01-26-2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 320750)
Isn't the Q45 a short nose?

yes but the r200 diff case will fit the innards and axle stubs from the q45, so then all i need is to make some hybrid axles from q45 and either z31 or 280z axles.

it would just be convienient if i could use 280 axles because i only have one z31 and i dont feel like:
1. getting extra z31 axles
2. disabling my car until the hybrid axles and diff swap is ready to go in the car.

FricFrac 02-07-2013 10:32 PM

The 280ZX CVs are a different type than the 300ZX. IIRC the 300ZX is either more rugged or can handle a greater angle change than the 280ZX. Keep us posted on your progress as this may be a good swap for the NA guys....

SHADY280 02-09-2013 06:23 AM

whats kinda interesting is the z31 shafts look like the same ish bolt pattern as the flange on an na outter. ive just stuck with my breakable u joints but prolly will need the upgrade one day

grim369 06-18-2013 04:49 PM

been hard at work collecting the funding for a few other projects but i finally got around to attempting the swap. i have everything currently apart and one hybrid axle made. in this writeup >XenonZ31 Hybrid VLSD Install i used method 4 which involves cutting of the shaft and then welding of the race to the shaft and on the other side apparently only welding... i have done the cutting and welding first and have one bolted in. whether exactly either axle will fit once the welding is complete im not sure, but i have done everything according to the writeup (which is extremely vague in this particular section) and have done a lot of measuring. here are some pictures of what i have completed thus far in case anyone is looking for some references.

this is what the axles are supposed to look like when completed.
http://imageshack.us/a/img90/5650/s8w.png

final pass on the bottom of the axle.
http://imageshack.us/a/img507/694/jdb0.jpg

the noted amount that was removed.
http://imageshack.us/a/img822/6334/n3bo.jpg

this is the j30 diff in the z31 longnose case.
http://imageshack.us/a/img94/6819/qkqv.jpg

evandubya 06-18-2013 05:58 PM

Your welds look amazing, but it scares the crap out of me when hardened metals rotating at high speeds get welded!

FricFrac 07-01-2013 07:00 PM

I know guys that are running welded modified axels. I think the hardening is key for the splines themselves.... Get a good bevel on the axel before you weld an it gives you good "penetration". Those welds do look nice!

grim369 10-02-2013 12:06 PM

i been driving around with this lsd setup in my car for about 4 months and the axles and everything are holding up just fine.

i appreciate the kind words on my welds i did bevel the edges and even filled the spline gaps with peices of filler for added strength :thumbsup:

the 280 turbo axles look suspiciously similar to the z31 tripod axles. they both have the 2x6 bolt pattern for the hub. if i find that the z31 and 280 axles are similar in length i may just have what i need and my initial suspicion would be confirmed.


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