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ANDREW280 Dec 29, 2011 12:20 PM

1982 280zx turbo auto to manual swap
 
Hi new to the forum,
Me and my dad are currently working on our 1982 datsun 280zx turbo and the time has come to swap out trannys. My dad had planned on doing this long ago so in preparation he bought a brand new borg warner t5 from nissan in 1984 he also got a peddel box and clutch master cylinder. My question is what exactly has to be doen for this swap i know something has to be done for the drive shaft and the diff? I have been searching around and cannot find clear instructions on what needs to be done, so if someone can please tell me what has to be done for the swap it would be much appreciated.
-Andrew

NismoPick Dec 29, 2011 12:35 PM

Welcome to ZDriver! :006:

Click: https://www.zdriver.com/forums/showt...ht=auto+manual

ANDREW280 Dec 29, 2011 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304886)

Thanks nismo! after reading all of those threads i still couldn't find an answer lol. the only real concern i have is do i need to get a r200 diff and do i just need to shorten the existing drive shaft? Is the rear flange the same in my existing drive shaft as the one on the r200?
-Andrew

WanganDevilZ Dec 29, 2011 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by ANDREW280 (Post 304885)
My dad had planned on doing this long ago so in preparation he bought a brand new borg warner t5 from nissan in 1984


Originally Posted by ANDREW280 (Post 304885)
In preparation he bought a brand new borg warner t5 from nissan in 1984


Originally Posted by ANDREW280 (Post 304885)
In preparation... in 1984

Finally getting around to it eh?

NismoPick Dec 30, 2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by ANDREW280 (Post 304888)
Thanks nismo! after reading all of those threads i still couldn't find an answer lol. the only real concern i have is do i need to get a r200 diff and do i just need to shorten the existing drive shaft? Is the rear flange the same in my existing drive shaft as the one on the r200?
-Andrew

You need the BW T5 drive shaft and matching diff flange. And unless you want to do a bit of custom wiring, you will also need the body (chassis) side of the transmission harness.

You don't need a new diff, just the output drive shaft as the T5 output is a diff spline count than the Nissan 5sp.

ANDREW280 Dec 30, 2011 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304918)
You need the BW T5 drive shaft and matching diff flange. And unless you want to do a bit of custom wiring, you will also need the body (chassis) side of the transmission harness.

You don't need a new diff, just the output drive shaft as the T5 output is a diff spline count than the Nissan 5sp.

Ok great do you know how to get a t5 shaft with diff flange or were to get one?
-Andrew

NismoPick Dec 30, 2011 03:38 PM

From a 280ZX Turbo. :D

Remember... the 2seater and 2+2 drive shafts are different lengths too.

ANDREW280 Dec 30, 2011 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304922)
From a 280ZX Turbo. :D

Remember... the 2seater and 2+2 drive shafts are different lengths too.

a manual 280 zx turbo correct?

NismoPick Dec 30, 2011 06:11 PM

Yeppers. :023:

ANDREW280 Dec 30, 2011 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304927)
Yeppers. :023:

can it be a 280zx turbo with the stock nissan 5speed or dose it have to be one with t5 in it? Also do you know someone who is selling one?
Andrew

NismoPick Dec 30, 2011 06:33 PM

aye aye aye... :048:

Nissan ONLY used Borg Warner T5 transmissions for the manual 280zxt. Unless someone removed the T5 and swapped in the n/a trans, all manual 280zxt's have the T5.

To reiterate, there are TWO factory transmission options for the 280zxt:
-3speed Auto
-BW T5 Manual

Re-read this:


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304918)
You need the BW T5 drive shaft and matching diff flange. And unless you want to do a bit of custom wiring, you will also need the body (chassis) side of the transmission harness.

You don't need a new diff, just the output drive shaft as the T5 output is a diff spline count than the Nissan 5sp.


ANDREW280 Dec 30, 2011 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304930)
aye aye aye... :048:

Nissan ONLY used Borg Warner T5 transmissions for the manual 280zxt. Unless someone removed the T5 and swapped in the n/a trans, all manual 280zxt's have the T5.

To reiterate, there are TWO factory transmission options for the 280zxt:
-3speed Auto
-BW T5 Manual

Re-read this:

ok Great finally i am clear about this :038: now i just need to find a 280 zxt parts car lol this is gonna be tough i think :disgust:

NismoPick Dec 30, 2011 06:50 PM

You need an entire parts car for the drive shaft?

I suggest checking our classifieds first (there just happens to be several 280zxt part outs):

https://www.zdriver.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=242

ANDREW280 Dec 30, 2011 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304936)
You need an entire parts car for the drive shaft?

I suggest checking our classifieds first (there just happens to be several 280zxt part outs):

https://www.zdriver.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=242

aw yea forgot about those classifieds, do you know if its still possible to order a brand new drive shaft from a 280zx turbo from nissan or aftermarket?

NismoPick Dec 30, 2011 07:46 PM

Anything is possible. :D

$620 to Nissan and it's yours!

http://www.courtesyparts.com/propeller--p-349808.html

$849 for an MSA aluminum one:

http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/22-1037

$229 for an MSA reman (if in stock):

http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/22-1023

ANDREW280 Dec 30, 2011 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 304939)
Anything is possible. :D

$620 to Nissan and it's yours!

http://www.courtesyparts.com/propeller--p-349808.html

$849 for an MSA aluminum one:

http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/22-1037

$229 for an MSA reman (if in stock):

http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/22-1023

$229 doesn't sound that bad lol but its weird it doesn't ask weather its an auto or manual :disgust:

zenzee Mar 15, 2013 09:29 AM

Turbo automatic trans spline count
 

Originally Posted by ANDREW280 (Post 304940)
$229 doesn't sound that bad lol but its weird it doesn't ask weather its an auto or manual :disgust:

Question, is the spline count on the ZX-Turbo automatic trans the same as the 5/speed spline count ? I just swappped out a 1979 ZX automatic trans for a 1982 automatic trans, and the spline count on the new automatic trans does not fit the original drive shaft. Does anyone know about this ? Thank you.

borini63 Mar 15, 2013 09:42 AM

I tried a drive shaft from Auto Turbo to a T5 manual...fits fine.

NismoPick Mar 15, 2013 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by borini63 (Post 322644)
I tried a drive shaft from Auto Turbo to a T5 manual...fits fine.

So the Nissan auto drive shaft has the same spline count as the Borg Warner T5? I've never heard of that...


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