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rxKaffee 07-09-2006 04:40 PM

2+2 Shocks/Springs on 2 seater??
 
Would it be a direct drop in for increased stiffness to put a set of OEM-type 2+2 springs and shocks on?

I'm looking for an ultra cheap shock fix to the saggy old busted crap on the car now. Will be re-doing the suspension totally soon. Just looking for something somewhat capable to hold me over until we findout if frank280zx's Z31 setup works out well :)

And would it be reasonable to take a coil or two off of the fresh oem springs to lower the car a little?

nismo619 07-09-2006 04:56 PM

thats a good question i was planing on puting some spare 2 seater shocks and springs on my 2+2... i do belive they interchange.. pretty much the same stiffness etc...

NismoPick 07-09-2006 06:48 PM

2seater & 2+2 fronts are the same. 2+2 rears are a lil stiffer. If you want a cheap setup to stop the rear squat... get some 79 - 83 Mercedes 300D front springs & chop them down to the right height. I found out they fit great & are stiff as hell:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/403158/3 (the silver one on the strut is the 300D spring)
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...58_14_full.jpg

thxone 07-09-2006 07:40 PM

Hey, I have a question. How long does it take on average for new shock/struts to break in on the rears to where they settle to their final hight?

SHADY280 07-09-2006 08:29 PM

they settle in the first drive, aboot 5 seconds after you start rolling

DatZun Driver 07-10-2006 02:26 PM

You can use 350Z springs for the back you got to chop them down.

NismoPick 07-10-2006 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by DatZun Driver
You can use 350Z springs for the back you got to chop them down.

Same diameter eh? Cool... except they'll prolly cost as much as a set of performance 280zx Eibach springs....

Bleach 07-10-2006 03:04 PM

I've got aboot 2 mercedes springs uncut and for sale! :D PM me if interested. (they are the same ones pictured)

RodMoyes 07-10-2006 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bleach
I've got aboot 2 mercedes springs uncut and for sale! :D PM me if interested. (they are the same ones pictured)

Dude, Just because you live near Canada doesn't mean you have to talk like a hosehead eh'

Rod.

rxKaffee 07-10-2006 06:44 PM

Are the struts from 2+2 and 2 seater identical?

DatZun Driver 07-10-2006 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=NismoPick]Same diameter eh? Cool... except they'll prolly cost as much as a set of performance 280zx Eibach springs....[/QUOTE

They only work on the back. I got mine for free from someone lowering their Z. They are stiff and I get no squat at all.

nismo619 07-10-2006 07:43 PM

lol u should see my 2+2 squat lol almost all the way down to the muffler.. lol no joke.. thats why i was gonna swap out my 2 seater set up

Bleach 07-10-2006 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by RodMoyes
Dude, Just because you live near Canada doesn't mean you have to talk like a hosehead eh'

Rod.

dude, I'm going to Canada in four days! I gotta practise up on my Canadian speech, eh

HybridS130 08-06-2006 08:28 PM

Okay so just to clarify, the mercedes springs will work for all four corners, you just cut them down to the proper height and you use the oem replacement shocks for the 280zx? Sweetness, I went into Oreilly auto today and they don't even carry suspension parts for the S130, I figured I might as well replace the springs too since it's so old.

Hooray New Suspension!

Edit: I just reread the thread and I realized what was said about using the front springs for the rear, does this mean that only the rear will accept the mercedes springs?

NismoPick 08-06-2006 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by HybridS130
Edit: I just reread the thread and I realized what was said about using the front springs for the rear, does this mean that only the rear will accept the mercedes springs?


Yep... Front 300D springs fit the rear 280zx's. I never researched thru the junk yard to find something more stiff to fit the front.

lww 08-07-2006 07:59 AM

And the Mercedes springs are stiff as hell. They have almost no give on the relatively light weight rear of a 280ZX compared to the 300D's 6 cylinder diesel motor they're designed to support.

I think the spring rate on the 300D's is in the 300lb range. I believe ours are about 180lb for the coupe and 200lb for the 2+2, so you're talking about a 50% increase in stiffness over a stock 2+2.

I think the guys that have used this can testify to their stiffness.

I would only use it as a temporary fix. Normally, you want some give in your springs for uneven pavement and road holding on city streets/highways.

If you want to drift, they're the perfect add-on! :unibrow:

HybridS130 08-07-2006 08:13 PM

Oh yeah I didn't even think about the stifness making the car unstable, thanks for bringing that up lww. I think I'd be better off going all out and getting an actual set of springs from MSA or something. Im trying to put together a decent yet inexpensive suspension with new springs, struts, bushings, and some strut bars

Bleach 08-08-2006 01:03 PM

ST springs are pretty stiff. I'm happy with the set I bought.

although, the front dropped more than the rear.


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