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Pilgrim Jul 30, 2011 12:23 PM

How to remove 280ZX dashboard
 
Just for grins, I'll summarize the process of removing the dash in case it helps anyone else, having done this around six times on my 1983 280ZX: (and edited it today, 8/12/11, because I just pulled it to fix the fan blower switch and replace old vacuum lines)

1) Remove left and right foot well trim panels under dash (2 screws each)
2) Remove radio console (one screw holds the triangular trim piece on each side, then 4 bolts on each side; you may not have to remove wire harnesses if there's enough slack to sit the panel on the passenger floorboards)
3) Disconnect various-colored wiring harnesses on passenger side firewall.
4) Remove two large factory cable ties next to wiring harnesses; these retain the harnesses to the dash frame (these are re-usable; release the ties by pressing on the small tab on the upper side between the tail end and the metal frame, then push the tail end back out of the tie)
4) Remove the steering wheel shroud, remove steering wheel (with a punch, lightly mark the steering wheel relative to the steering shaft so you can center the wheel on re-assembly).
5) Loosen one screw on the right side of the turn signal assy to release the clamp holding the turn signal assy on the steering column. Disconnect wiring harnesses and slide turn signal assy forward off the shaft - it can dangle.
6) Reach under dash on the right/passenger side of the steering column and disconnect speedometer cable near the firewall (this is easy to forget)
7) Remove cosmetic plugs over four screws on top of dash - try to preserve them, they're hard to find.
8) Remove 8 main dashboard screws/bolts: four screws across top of dash, four bolts on bottom side of dash (two of the bottom bolts are hidden by the radio console until you remove it)
9) Remove five screws holding the center dash vent trim in place; remove center trim panel, now remove two screws holding the heat/AC control box to the dash frame. (This is really easy to miss.)

You may now remove the dash. Try not to scrape it on the A-pillar trim too much. I find it easier to pull the passenger side forward first; keep it low so it won't jam the dash in place.

The dash weighs about 40 pounds when free - take it out the passenger side door.

Re-assembly is the reverse of removal. NOTE: make SURE when setting the dash in place to re-locate he speedometer cable properly. if you get it on the wrong side of the steering wheel brace, you will need to pull the dash again and move it so it will connect.

The only specialized tool required is a standard steering wheel puller. Most of it is done with a #2 and #3 screwdriver. You may need a small flat-blade screwdriver to carefully pry off the bolt covers on top of the dashboard.

NismoPick Jul 30, 2011 01:24 PM

w00t: https://www.zdriver.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=12

:D

FricFrac Aug 2, 2011 10:09 PM

Don't forget for #5 that there is a 12" stub that comes off the back of the speedo that plugs into the main speedo cable. It's easier to split it there than the back of the speedo....

Pilgrim Aug 13, 2011 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by NismoPick (Post 298558)

He missed a few details...and describes the process more sparingly. I just finished doing this 10 minutes ago...so I went back in and added a few minor items. :unibrow:

Philbert Dec 8, 2011 10:01 AM

The write up on xenons130's site is great too - very similar.

So I'm running into an issue after refinishing/painting my dash.

In the process of taking it apart (after removal), the liners for the 3 gauges in the middle snapped each of their two mounting tabs that keep them in place.

Now I’m putting it back together and having the darnedest time lining up the liners with the dash and the 3-gauge pod module – since they are staggered and at an angle and all, it’s juggling a lot and I’m coming up short.

Any of you guys who have messed with an S130 dash have any ideas on how to better patch this up? I really want to finish this project – been at it for 3 months in my spare time and the garage needs the Z out! I briefly thought about just installing without, and then retrofitting some kind of liner from the outside of the dash, but I really have no idea how I would do that…maybe with small pieces of Velcro?

mrprofile Dec 8, 2011 01:58 PM

JB weld it back on, or get used ones from a junkyard and just repaint them

Philbert Dec 8, 2011 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by mrprofile (Post 303981)
JB weld it back on, or get used ones from a junkyard and just repaint them


Problem is, I'm not sure what angle to use.

I'm assuming they are all 3 the exact same, but could be wrong, as it appears the gauges are not all at the same angle (the farthest one from the driver is angled more than the nearest one). So I don't really want to glue them on and be wrong. I've responded to several "parting out" threads today looking for these pieces.

I think I'm going to try cutting and affixing small pieces of velcro, and just try to set them up with trial and error. If I get a bite on my posts in the next couple days, then I'll get some new ones...

Brewski* Feb 6, 2013 02:24 PM

Each of the 3 are different. They must go back in the holes they came from or they will not go back correctly. I had the same problem "NIGHTMARE" until I took another dash a part. Then it was still a little bit of a problem. The tabs must be EXACTLY where they came from also. I have one gauge that is 1/8" off but only I know it.....

Philbert Feb 6, 2013 02:32 PM

13 months later LOL ;) Thanks anyway!

I ended up buying a set from the forum here and installing - total nightmare, even with the new set. My dash went in and cracked 2 weeks later....boooo!!

MurphyEF Feb 6, 2013 07:45 PM

Time to do the dash fix with the bumper filler, texture, and paint!

Philbert Feb 7, 2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MurphyEF (Post 321205)
Time to do the dash fix with the bumper filler, texture, and paint!

That's exactly what I did with this project :( Got the dash out, chipped away at the old cracks, filled with bumper filler, smoothed, sanded, textured, painted. Looked like a million bucks for a couple weeks, then the same cracks reappeared - not sure what I could have done differently.

Here's my thread with photos:
https://www.zdriver.com/forums/280zx...-photos-34182/

Before:

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After:

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I'm going to be replacing the window this year since it's cracked, and will attack the rust at the base of the bottom trim (bought new trim clips from dealer already).....if anyone has tips for window removal and treating that rust/priming/painting it, let me know.

Phil

ThaPimpShrimp Feb 7, 2013 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Philbert (Post 321222)
That's exactly what I did with this project :( Got the dash out, chipped away at the old cracks, filled with bumper filler, smoothed, sanded, textured, painted. Looked like a million bucks for a couple weeks, then the same cracks reappeared - not sure what I could have done differently.

What does your dash look like currently?

Philbert Feb 7, 2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaPimpShrimp (Post 321226)
What does your dash look like currently?


Here are some photos from just now....pretty much cracked again in the same places :(

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And here's the reason I'm replacing the windshield:

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And the fun Datsun Rust I plan to eliminate when I do have the windshield out:
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ThaPimpShrimp Feb 7, 2013 06:03 PM

That really is too bad about the dash. I remember reading through your post and thought you did a fantastic job.


Also, yikes! I sure am glad my windshield rust is nowhere near that bad. Good luck on getting all of that fixed up and take some pictures :D

MurphyEF Feb 7, 2013 09:53 PM

Wow...rain...in Cali? Huh...whoda thought...anyways, cracks can likely be due to heat. I refinished my dash (after seeing the origional diy, as well as your dash) and its still doing fine, though I didn't texture it. Still need to knock down the shine, I get some crazy glare in the sun. Be happy that is all the rust you have! You should come up to WA and take a look at mine!

robinhoodahm Jun 3, 2013 12:38 PM

would coating dash with fiberglass be better than the bumper filler method?

alien4fish Aug 31, 2013 04:24 PM

Hi everyone, why don't you just invest in a dash cap? Motor Sport has them for like 100 bucks plus shipping

Philbert Aug 31, 2013 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by alien4fish (Post 327768)
Hi everyone, why don't you just invest in a dash cap? Motor Sport has them for like 100 bucks plus shipping


I had a dash cap on my 87 BMW and it never fit right - plus I knew what lay beneath...

Just like we like doing our own work on these cars and owning the maintenance and modifications, I wanted to do my best to bring this dash back to life as one piece.


I've thought about going after it again with fiberglas, but I have no experience with that and am a little skittish.

Hope to get around to pulling the window out, sanding down the rust and priming/painting - maybe I'll attack the dash again then....

MurphyEF Sep 1, 2013 12:27 AM

Glassing it shoupdnt be too difficult if you get the mat, rather than the strands. Hardest part will be getting it all smooth, but a random orbital would help greatly, along with a little Bondi. Then texture, knock down, and paint like before. Heck if you wanted to go all river you could mold in some gauge pods! Lmao

WildmaN Sep 9, 2013 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by alien4fish (Post 327768)
Hi everyone, why don't you just invest in a dash cap? Motor Sport has them for like 100 bucks plus shipping

They are not that great, and do not fit right. I ended up taking mine off, because for one did not match the glovebox, and stuck out from it. And because my dash is so warped and cracked. The dashcap can't lay on there straight. So I just put on a dash mat, and be done with it for now.


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