A real life Devil Z
06-26-2006, 08:52 PM
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In case you didn't know the Devil Z actually does or at least did exist. It was a specially modified Speed Shop Shinohara or SSS 240Z. I found the specs over on HybridZ.org. They're as follows:
Engine-
P90A head, F54 block, both sourced from an '83 Turbo 280ZX
Triple Mikuni side-draft carburetors, 47mm bore [?]
Twin Garrett T3/T04 hybrid turbochargers
HKS SuperSequential Blow Off Valve
Custom fabricated intake plenum, 47mm velocity stacks
Custom grind camshaft, 290* duration [?], .510 lift [?]
Forged internals, ceramic coated forged dished pistons [7.4:1 CR]
Claimed 620BHP@6000, TQ unknown
Trans-
Nissan/Borg Warner T5 5-speed, non-"World Class"
Twin-plate Ogura [?] clutch
Diff-
R200 VLSD sourced from '87 300ZX Turbo Special Edition
Suspension/Body-
SSS [Speed Shop Shinohara] coilovers, custom valving
Custom sway bars [SSS?]
SSS custom 8-point cage
Takata 5-point harnesses
Bride racing buckets
Brakes-
R32 4-piston front calipers, cross-drilled/slotted 11.5" rotors [F], cross-drilled/slotted 11.5" rotors, calipers unknown
But the Devil Z can be any 1970-1978 S30Z.
The real "Devil Z" was actually used in the Wangan Midnight movies. Or at least for parts of it.
Engine-
P90A head, F54 block, both sourced from an '83 Turbo 280ZX
Triple Mikuni side-draft carburetors, 47mm bore [?]
Twin Garrett T3/T04 hybrid turbochargers
HKS SuperSequential Blow Off Valve
Custom fabricated intake plenum, 47mm velocity stacks
Custom grind camshaft, 290* duration [?], .510 lift [?]
Forged internals, ceramic coated forged dished pistons [7.4:1 CR]
Claimed 620BHP@6000, TQ unknown
Trans-
Nissan/Borg Warner T5 5-speed, non-"World Class"
Twin-plate Ogura [?] clutch
Diff-
R200 VLSD sourced from '87 300ZX Turbo Special Edition
Suspension/Body-
SSS [Speed Shop Shinohara] coilovers, custom valving
Custom sway bars [SSS?]
SSS custom 8-point cage
Takata 5-point harnesses
Bride racing buckets
Brakes-
R32 4-piston front calipers, cross-drilled/slotted 11.5" rotors [F], cross-drilled/slotted 11.5" rotors, calipers unknown
But the Devil Z can be any 1970-1978 S30Z.
The real "Devil Z" was actually used in the Wangan Midnight movies. Or at least for parts of it.
06-27-2006, 12:27 PM
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Theoretically I'm sure it's possible. Mechanically pulling it out of the L28ET is gonna take some work. Besides if you hit 600HP on an L28ET vs. 800HP on L28ET in a basically stripped S30Z. It's not gonna matter too much.
I would say before you're worried about getting 800HP try and get a hold of an S30 and an L28ET to start. You'll have plenty of power for that light of a car anyway. Once you've got all that going, then start working with upping the car. The manga does exaggerate horsepower a good bit more.
I would say before you're worried about getting 800HP try and get a hold of an S30 and an L28ET to start. You'll have plenty of power for that light of a car anyway. Once you've got all that going, then start working with upping the car. The manga does exaggerate horsepower a good bit more.
Last edited by duowing; 06-27-2006 at 12:32 PM.
06-27-2006, 03:04 PM
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I already got the first part done. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsu...QQcmdZViewItem
Highest bidder do you think its worth the 13 grand?
Highest bidder do you think its worth the 13 grand?
06-27-2006, 03:56 PM
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I hope you're not the highest bidder. For what you want I would recomend a rolling chasis. Not a prestine 240 that has survived the ages. Plus you'll save bundles if you go with a shell and source everything you need.
06-27-2006, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrow
I already got the first part done. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsu...QQcmdZViewItem
Highest bidder do you think its worth the 13 grand?
Highest bidder do you think its worth the 13 grand?
Man... my 240Z was almost that clean, and it sold for $3500! Mother beetch! I should have waited!
06-28-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ASA240z
Yeah, but did have less that 50,000 ORIGINAL MILES?
And Blackcrow, realistically how much power do you wanna make? And how much are you willing to spend? Knowing this can give you a much better picture in what to look for in terms of engines.
Honestely if you what at least 600hp I would be looking V8... taking into consideration that such numbers are easier to get to and would probably require not so extreme of high octane gas. As a matter of fact Ive seen on Horesepower TV a couple guys built a "small block" 427 that pushed over 600hp crank with premium gas.
Later,
Allen
And Blackcrow, realistically how much power do you wanna make? And how much are you willing to spend? Knowing this can give you a much better picture in what to look for in terms of engines.
Honestely if you what at least 600hp I would be looking V8... taking into consideration that such numbers are easier to get to and would probably require not so extreme of high octane gas. As a matter of fact Ive seen on Horesepower TV a couple guys built a "small block" 427 that pushed over 600hp crank with premium gas.
Later,
Allen
06-28-2006, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ASA240z
onemore thing, $20,000-$30,000 should get you a cherryed out Z with an rb...
$20 to $30K I wouldn't be messing with a Z... I'd be buying a C5 Corvette & slapping on a supercharger.
06-28-2006, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ASA240z
Heres a like I found for a rb for sale on ebay... but dont just go a buy it with out searching and looking around. Try the other link, hybridz they have a sec dedicated entirely to RB swaps in Zcars. Prices range form $3,000-$5,000+ depending on the milage and what year the engine is from. Like I said, search around for the best deal and make sure the seller is legit. Who knows, you maybe able to find a hell of deal like an other hybridz member that got an entire rb26 and tanny for $400 dollars in a Hong Kong junk yard, what a deal!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...76991745QQrdZ1
http://forums.hybridz.org/forumdisplay.php?f=85
In terms of the rb26 it's said that the engine is just a undertunned race engine aka the Godzilla engine of japan. It's said that the internals can withstand up to 600hp before the need of going inside the engine. Although I've read this, check for youtself and read, read, read.
Hope thats helps!
Allen
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...76991745QQrdZ1
http://forums.hybridz.org/forumdisplay.php?f=85
In terms of the rb26 it's said that the engine is just a undertunned race engine aka the Godzilla engine of japan. It's said that the internals can withstand up to 600hp before the need of going inside the engine. Although I've read this, check for youtself and read, read, read.
Hope thats helps!
Allen
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06-28-2006, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
$20 to $30K I wouldn't be messing with a Z... I'd be buying a C5 Corvette & slapping on a supercharger.
06-28-2006, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrow
With just $20 K you can get a much faster 240Z. When i'm done my Devil Z will pwn any Corvette with a supercharger.
RIGHT CLICK & SAVE AS: (6.3MB)
http://home.comcast.net/~nismopick3/...e_Burnout.mpeg
Now... you could build something that will somehow outrun that Vette... but he'll be laughing at you the whole time.
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06-28-2006, 09:29 PM
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Holy ****... Think of it this way if someone can build a S30 that can outrun a heavly modded porsche 911 turbo i think someone else can build a S30 that can outrun a corvette. He wont be laughing when i outrun him 
also.
also.
06-28-2006, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrow
Holy ****... Think of it this way if someone can build a S30 that can outrun a heavly modded porsche 911 turbo i think someone else can build a S30 that can outrun a corvette. He wont be laughing when i outrun him also.
also.News Flash... there will always be someone faster than you. I say go for it... and let us know how it goes.
Out of curiousity (and to confirm my assumption)... how old are you?
06-28-2006, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
News Flash... there will always be someone faster than you. I say go for it... and let us know how it goes.
Out of curiousity (and to confirm my assumption)... how old are you?
Out of curiousity (and to confirm my assumption)... how old are you?
06-28-2006, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrow
Between 18-25 also does anyone know where i can get a body kit for the S30? I already have my sights on one and luckly its totaled so i'll have to change the front bumpers and stuff.
Try:
www.thezstore.com
www.blackdragonauto.com
www.jcwhitney.com
06-28-2006, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ASA240z
Anyway nice video Nismo, theres a better one in which a couple of ricers try to out run a Corvette Lingenfelter. Needless to say they didn't win
Ill try to find it sometime to night.
Ill try to find it sometime to night.
06-28-2006, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NismoPick
Kids in a DSM against a red Z51 C5 Corvette? I've seen that vid... it's not a Lingenfelter (even tho the title says it is), but they still get wasted.
06-28-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ASA240z
Could you tell me what exactely is a Lingenfelter. I just assumed it was a special race company that fixed up vettes. Kinda like what Saleen does with Mustangs.
http://www.callawaycars.com/
Lingenfelter & Callaway are performance engineering companies that make their own kits & add-ons to cars. They're both famous for making TWIN TURBO kits for Corvettes. They also work a lot w/ the actual motor company too.
Originally Posted by BlackCrow
Can you provide me that video i always get amused at ricers getting left in the dust.
